Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[Feed Your Head]

Think about how Marcus Smart feels when he hears that ****, a guy who plays harder than anyone I’ve ever seen. Dude reps Boston hard, feeds off of the fans, and has to listen to some of those same fans just **** on his race. I don’t care that it’s just a small percentage of the crowd, because the garbage they spew outweighs all of the good.

This front office needs an overhaul, NOW.

You should consider giving up your mod duties. You seem a little too invested in this issue...like an activist. The last thing this board needs is politics.

Human decency isn’t politics.

[JR Hawks]

Think about how Marcus Smart feels when he hears that ****, a guy who plays harder than anyone I’ve ever seen. Dude reps Boston hard, feeds off of the fans, and has to listen to some of those same fans just **** on his race. I don’t care that it’s just a small percentage of the crowd, because the garbage they spew outweighs all of the good.

This front office needs an overhaul, NOW.

You should consider giving up your mod duties. You seem a little too invested in this issue...like an activist. The last thing this board needs is politics.

Human decency isn’t politics.

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

[Feed Your Head]

You should consider giving up your mod duties. You seem a little too invested in this issue...like an activist. The last thing this board needs is politics.

Human decency isn’t politics.

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

I feel like calling people derogatory racist slurs is pretty cut and dry, but that could just be me being a political activist.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Think about how Marcus Smart feels when he hears that ****, a guy who plays harder than anyone I’ve ever seen. Dude reps Boston hard, feeds off of the fans, and has to listen to some of those same fans just **** on his race. I don’t care that it’s just a small percentage of the crowd, because the garbage they spew outweighs all of the good.

This front office needs an overhaul, NOW.

You should consider giving up your mod duties. You seem a little too invested in this issue...like an activist. The last thing this board needs is politics.

What was political about his post? What a bizarre post.

[SmartWentCrazy]

You should consider giving up your mod duties. You seem a little too invested in this issue...like an activist. The last thing this board needs is politics.

Human decency isn’t politics.

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

Racism is pretty cut and dry. Thanks for telling on yourself though.

[JR Hawks]

Human decency isn’t politics.

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

I feel like calling people derogatory racist slurs is pretty cut and dry, but that could just be me being a political activist.

Lol, that's not the argument you were making. Not at all. You were saying Danny should be fired for his comments today. Now you're trying to make up some bogus strawman argument....I'm not falling for it.

[Feed Your Head]

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

I feel like calling people derogatory racist slurs is pretty cut and dry, but that could just be me being a political activist.

Lol, that's not the argument you were making. Not at all. You were saying Danny should be fired for his comments today. Now you're trying to make up some bogus strawman argument....I'm not falling for it.

I said earlier today that Ainge would be fired if he was working for any other organization, for basketball reasons.

Him coming out today and looking stupid with those comments is just a bad look, because we know for a fact that there’s been issues. Like when Cousins got called that word and the garden security vouched for it, and got the guy banned from games.

I just can’t imagine the players loved Danny trying to pretend it doesn’t happen, and if it comes down to the top end talent on this team or Danny, it’s a no brainer.

[JR Hawks]

Human decency isn’t politics.

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

Racism is pretty cut and dry. Thanks for telling on yourself though.

Lol, you the comedian's white knight?

Race and racism are much more complex than you would like to admit...probably beyond your intellectual capacity actually. A couple nuggets for you to try to chew on:

-Donald Trump did better with black voters in 2020 than he did in 2016. Despite four years of racially inflammatory comments and the 2020 race protests, Trump improved his standing with black voters.

-Polls show that white Democrats are more likely to think the 2020 race protests had a positive impact than are black people.

[SmartWentCrazy]

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

Racism is pretty cut and dry. Thanks for telling on yourself though.

Lol, you the comedian's white knight?

Race and racism are much more complex than you would like to admit...probably beyond your intellectual capacity actually. A couple nuggets for you to try to chew on:

-Donald Trump did better with black voters in 2020 than he did in 2016. Despite four years of racially inflammatory comments and the 2020 race protests, Trump improved his standing with black voters.

-Polls show that white Democrats are more likely to think the 2020 race protests had a positive impact than are black people.

What does this have anything to do with Marcus Smart saying he’s witnessed racism? Or that racism is bad?

[Feed Your Head]

YOUR OPINIONS on human decency are not necessarily human decency.

Racism is pretty cut and dry. Thanks for telling on yourself though.

Lol, you the comedian's white knight?

Race and racism are much more complex than you would like to admit...probably beyond your intellectual capacity actually. A couple nuggets for you to try to chew on:

-Donald Trump did better with black voters in 2020 than he did in 2016. Despite four years of racially inflammatory comments and the 2020 race protests, Trump improved his standing with black voters.

-Polls show that white Democrats are more likely to think the 2020 race protests had a positive impact than are black people.

Was zero need for the personal attack, never mind calling out another posters intellect.

Gave you a 12 hour break. When you’re back, debate/argue all you want, I let pretty much whatever go, but calling other posters stupid? Nah. Not cool.

[akhan786]

Racism is pretty cut and dry. Thanks for telling on yourself though.

Lol, you the comedian's white knight?

Race and racism are much more complex than you would like to admit...probably beyond your intellectual capacity actually. A couple nuggets for you to try to chew on:

-Donald Trump did better with black voters in 2020 than he did in 2016. Despite four years of racially inflammatory comments and the 2020 race protests, Trump improved his standing with black voters.

-Polls show that white Democrats are more likely to think the 2020 race protests had a positive impact than are black people.

Was zero need for the personal attack, never mind calling out another posters intellect.

Gave you a 12 hour break. When you’re back, debate/argue all you want, I let pretty much whatever go, but calling other posters stupid? Nah. Not cool.

Lol it’s always projection with these types. In his first post he cries about “politics” but then a couple of posts later steers the thread way farther into politics than the conversation initially was even discussing

[JimmyPlopper]

Couple years back, the assistant GM Mike Zarren was being courted by other teams - including Philly. However, the word on the street was the Zarren, a loyal Celtics lifetime fan, who felt blessed to be at the organization, wanted to remain in Boston until he could eventually take the reins from Ainge. Seems like now would be a good time to set that into motion, no? Ainge can some out and say something about his health and needing to take a step back into a sort of advisor role to save face.

[BostonCouchGM]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I think it's safe to say that Kyrie leaving Boston for BK in free agency has really set the Celtics back considerably. So what I wanted to bring up is, what type of research (if any) by the C's front office was done on Kyrie before trading for him? The reason I bring this up is because the more we learn about Kyrie, the more it becomes evident that the dude has some issues. I don't know enough about his issues to label him, but it's as clear as a summer day that Kyrie has "things" he's dealing with.....unstable to say the least.
I'm not a huge woulda coulda shoulda kind of guy, but I can't help but think about what-if Danny used those trade assets for another All-Star player? Or Didn't make a trade at all? It's a little concerning that Danny went in strong for a guy like Kyrie that completely backfired and blew up in the Celtics face. There was 1 good season with Kyrie (before he was injured), and then the 2nd season was a lost season as the entire time he seemed checked out despite saying he wanted to stay long-term. Kyrie is a fraud...Or perhaps I ought to be more sensitive to the fact that he seems to have problems....I guess I just wish Danny and the front office caught this, or knew about this. and if they did, why did they still go for it?

Because we did not have to give up much. IT who wanted to get paid, Crowder and a first rounder for an allstar is a great deal...

But at that point how could you know that Kyre was not just another disgruntled star... that he has some kind of "mental condition"..

he threatened to get surgery instead of playing with Lebron in Cleveland if not traded. That's all anyone with a brain should need to hear to know he's off his rocker. Add in his lack of maturity and his injury concerns and the move was never prudent. #8 pick we ended up giving up that could have been SGA or MPJ, giving us a legit best in the league 'Big Three' is just icing on that crap cake.

[BostonCouchGM]

Ainge said he's never heard any players say anything about racism at the Garden and I believe him. If a player had, he 100% would have addressed it and taken care of it. He doesn't play around. What allegedly happened on the streets outside of the arena to Smart is a completely different thing and not what Kyrie was claiming. And what transpired before Ainge's day when the whole country including Boston, was racist during the 60s and before especially isn't something he would know about. Kyrie specifically was talking about fans at the game and Ainge is defending us and people have a problem with it? Ainge is perfectly entitled to share his personal opinions and perceptions of Boston. I prefer him speaking his truth rather than being disingenuous and virtue signal over it. We need way more of that. He said absolutely nothing wrong

[chrisab123]

Couple years back, the assistant GM Mike Zarren was being courted by other teams - including Philly. However, the word on the street was the Zarren, a loyal Celtics lifetime fan, who felt blessed to be at the organization, wanted to remain in Boston until he could eventually take the reins from Ainge. Seems like now would be a good time to set that into motion, no? Ainge can some out and say something about his health and needing to take a step back into a sort of advisor role to save face.

As someone else mentioned this whole thing changed everything. He might still be the successor but you cannot go another season with Danny and Brad running the show. This team sorely needs representation of another view point to connect with the players. Thats really the only play for this organization. This isn't the first time Ainge has hurt this organization either. I'd also say that comparing LeBron to Trump on an interview didn't do him any favors when trying to get AD.

[BillessuR6]

Owners should be all in on Masai...

Unfortunately, I think we are stuck with DA until he decides to step down himself...And then we might see Austin Ainge take over, ugh...

[FlatearthZorro]

Ainge said he's never heard any players say anything about racism at the Garden and I believe him. If a player had, he 100% would have addressed it and taken care of it. He doesn't play around. What allegedly happened on the streets outside of the arena to Smart is a completely different thing and not what Kyrie was claiming. And what transpired before Ainge's day when the whole country including Boston, was racist during the 60s and before especially isn't something he would know about. Kyrie specifically was talking about fans at the game and Ainge is defending us and people have a problem with it? Ainge is perfectly entitled to share his personal opinions and perceptions of Boston. I prefer him speaking his truth rather than being disingenuous and virtue signal over it. We need way more of that. He said absolutely nothing wrong

This. I don't understand how anything Ainge said is bad. if you deviate from the pack, you need to go. That's how the US functions right now.

Ignore his work as a GM which should be the main focus on whether he should stay or go and I mean he might need to go cause of the poor job he's done. These comments are FAR from the reason Ainge might have to consider resigning as a GM.

[JediMasterRevan]

Those comments are so lame of Ainge, Celtics players have to be be like wtf. It’s honestly embarrassing.

He gots to go.

Just call me the choir

[threrf23]

Some of what Danny said definitely comes off as tone deaf or otherwise dismissive, but I can't really tell whether he was quoted out of context somewhat.

I mean, from what I gather, he said he was under the impression that the organization had been taking such issues seriously and making an issue to address them, he said he was unaware of the events which Kyrie had referred to, he said you can't control fans and just have to go out and play regardless, he liked being booed when he was a player and got a kick out of Trae Young the other night, feeding off of belligerent Knicks fans.

I don't disagree with any statement by itself, as long as he is differentiating between boos and belligerence versus racism. And this was said in response to comments from Kyrie, which IMO were said with manipulative intent regardless of whether there was some substance behind them.

Hopefully Danny will clear the air publicly and privately, but all I know for sure is that Danny means well, and **** Kyrie.

[JediMasterRevan]

Honestly heartbreaking reading this. Makes me seethe with anger and that’s not an emotion I’m used to

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And Smart has no reason in the world to make something like that up.

I don't think Racism will ever be fixed, no more than murder be fixed, or abuse etc. But it is disgusting and unfortunate and I fear that with continued discussion the way it has been happening lately will only produce more people that lean towards racist actions.



Also, I have a theory. I call it observational rage. And when a person gets angry they tend to yell out insults based upon visual cues.
Fat so and so
UGly so and so
gay/queer/etc so and so

I think that sometimes people yell things not necessarily based on prejudices but just the observation of what is driving the rage. And that requires a different treatment.