Hal’s Draft Thread

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Ohh, BJ Boston and Roko Pkacin would be a nice combo.

So do you see yesterday's move as double good news for Yam? One fewer PGs on the roster and an opening to come over as the de facto 1st-round pick?

Well, yes of course. It's good news for both Yam and Pritchard.

But long way to go till opening night and I expect more moves to come so we'll see..

Yes, a long ways to go. And if this first Stevens move is an indication, I don't expect the team to mostly stand pat from here.

[playa-hater]

Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Ugh. Another Grant?

are you saying 2 Grants aren't better than one..

or

we should keep drafting a Grant until we get it right.

Or

2 Grants, 2 Williams and now 2 Browns.. What could go wrong?!

ok I'll see myself out.

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Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Ugh. Another Grant?

Did you watch the video? Check out other scouting reports? His game is different from Grant's, and he's bigger (6'8" vs 6'6"). His weight certainly differentiates him from most PFs, but that is not necessarily a tick in a downside box. In his case it is more of an asset.

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Possible steal of draft at pick no. 45?

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Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Ugh. Another Grant?

are you saying 2 Grants aren't better than one..

or

we should keep drafting a Grant until we get it right.

Or

2 Grants, 2 Williams and now 2 Browns.. What could go wrong?!

ok I'll see myself out.

I'm not surprised to see people bringing up a Grant comparison, but I see that as pretty superficial. Rai'Quan is two inches taller and 25lbs heavier than Grant. Yeah, they both carry more weight than typical, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. They have different games, which I think is evident from the video I posted. Rai'quan's height is more that of a typical PF. His weight and strength make him difficult to push around, and allows him to muscle smaller players (pretty much everybody), and match up with the big boys. Grant is game (and I like him and his effort), but his size is a bit of a disadvantage against most PFs and centers. That would not be the case with Rai'Quan.

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Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Ugh. Another Grant?

are you saying 2 Grants aren't better than one..

or

we should keep drafting a Grant until we get it right.

Or

2 Grants, 2 Williams and now 2 Browns.. What could go wrong?!

ok I'll see myself out.

Ha ha.

[Justin33]

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Pick 45 I am thinking these are my ideal targets if they are still available:

1. Trey Murphy
2. Vrenz Bleijenbergh
3. Greg Brown

[playa-hater]

Pick 45 I am thinking these are my ideal targets if they are still available:

1. Trey Murphy
2. Vrenz Bleijenbergh
3. Greg Brown

would take those 3 and add in no order.

JT Thor
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
Ayo Dosunmu
Isaiah Todd
BJ Boston
Marcus Bagely
Kessler Edwards
Johnny Jazang

Of course some players like Roko are not listed since the chances are slim he will be there.

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Pick 45 I am thinking these are my ideal targets if they are still available:

1. Trey Murphy
2. Vrenz Bleijenbergh
3. Greg Brown

would take those 3 and add in no order.

JT Thor
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
Ayo Dosunmu
Isaiah Todd
BJ Boston
Marcus Bagely
Kessler Edwards
Johnny Jazang

Of course some players like Roko are not listed since the chances are slim he will be there.

Yeah some solid options for sure. Roko likely will be gone. Seems like Thor, Boston, Todd and Ayo will be gone too but if any of them slip then they would have to be near the top of the list for sure.

Haven't checked out Bagley, Edwards or Juzang yet but have heard good things..

Brown could be a solid pick at 45. He's a high ceiling guy with his combination of quickness and athleticism for a 6'9" dude, only 19 so lots of room to develop, plus his skill set with ability to block shots, be a rim runner, and shoot the basketball. He wouldn't be ready to contribute right away, you'd have to be patient and develop him, probably play on our G-league team at first, but there's potential there to develop into a really nice stretch 4 guy which is obviously a need for us. He might be gone before our pick but seems like a decent chance he'll still be there. Put Brown on the G-league team for most of his rookie year to keep working on his game and bulk up a little bit and then by his 2nd season he'll be ready to be a strong player off the bench. Eventually if he keeps working and developing, I could see this dude as a starting 4 - he has the potential to be a perfect stretch 4.

I've accepted there's no way Roko is gonna fall to us.

[Patsfan1081]

Not having a first sucks. Basketball and football are the only drafts you can get remotely into and Boston desperately needs to clean up their bench. Taco, Waters, Semi, Grant, Edwards, and Kornet should all be in different uniforms next season, however I’ve got a strong feeling Brad won’t have much turnover.

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Possible steal of draft at pick no. 45?

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I can't help myself--he looks and moves too much like Carsen Edwards for me right now.

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This is the pick Bleacher Report picks for the C's at #47. Looks like a pretty good fit to me:

https://loyolagreyhounds.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/santi-aldama/8619

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Possible targets with pick 45, ranked in order of where Adam Spinella has them on his big board:

1) Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
2) Greg Brown
3) Isaiah Todd
4) Trey Murphy
5) JT Thor
6) Marcus Bagley
7) Kessler Edwards
8) Vrenz Bleijenbergh

At least 1 (probably more) of these guys will be available at pick 45..

[threrf23]

3 & D guys I like, projected to be available at pick 40 by nbadraft.net:

Joel Ayayi (shines statistically, underrated part of last year's Zags team)

Aaron Henry (kid can really defend, shows upside offensively)

Trey Murphy (kid can really shoot, shows upside defensively)

Big Men:

Day'Ron Sharpe (19 yo & draws Randolph/Al Jefferson/Amare comps)

Petrusev (a better Nenad Krstic?)

Queta (can rebound and protect the rim)

Others:

JT Thor (not sure which category he falls into, but his stats are decent and you just aren't going to find more upside at pick 45)

Champagnie (SF/PF tweener, but stats are solid)

Max Abmas (seems slept on)

Projected to go in the 30-40 range:

Robinson Earl (I also like him)

Isaiah Jackson (think he can affect the game like a healthy Timelord does)

Daishen Nix (PG with good upside, good size, described as "unselfish to a fault")

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3 & D guys I like, projected to be available at pick 40 by nbadraft.net:

Joel Ayayi (shines statistically, underrated part of last year's Zags team)

Aaron Henry (kid can really defend, shows upside offensively)

Trey Murphy (kid can really shoot, shows upside defensively)

Big Men:

Day'Ron Sharpe (19 yo & draws Randolph/Al Jefferson/Amare comps)

Petrusev (a better Nenad Krstic?)

Queta (can rebound and protect the rim)

Others:

JT Thor (not sure which category he falls into, but his stats are decent and you just aren't going to find more upside at pick 45)

Champagnie (SF/PF tweener, but stats are solid)

Max Abmas (seems slept on)

Projected to go in the 30-40 range:

Robinson Earl (I also like him)

Isaiah Jackson (think he can affect the game like a healthy Timelord does)

Some solid options.

Thor is a stretch 4. I feel like him, Isaiah Todd and Greg Brown are all pretty similar. All stretch 4's. All either 6'9" or 6'10" with good athleticism. All decent outside shooters, high ceiling, but definitely have some things to work on. Robinson-Earl is another stretch 4 I like. I

Isaiah Jackson is going pretty high in mock drafts. Seems very unlikely he will be there at 45.

I like Murphy a lot.

We could definitely get a pretty solid prospect with that pick.

[playa-hater]

Possible steal of draft at pick no. 45?

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I can't help myself--he looks and moves too much like Carsen Edwards for me right now.

so I tried to look up whatever scouting reports there was, only found highlight videos. Almost all hard slashes and dunks, Not much shooting. Have no idea what size he is, guessing around 6'5. Reminds me of the lefty version of Javonte Green. Haven't seen him listed in any top 100s. Definition of a sleeper.

[playa-hater]

This is the pick Bleacher Report picks for the C's at #47. Looks like a pretty good fit to me:

https://loyolagreyhounds.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/santi-aldama/8619

why would Boston draft a center, even if he could shoot?

[playa-hater]

Possible targets with pick 45, ranked in order of where Adam Spinella has them on his big board:

1) Jeremiah Robinson-Earl -a young Horford type
2) Greg Brown - my top choice on here.
3) Isaiah Todd - definitely like IT
4) Trey Murphy - just behind my top choice
5) JT Thor - almost a 3 way tie for #1
6) Marcus Bagley - like
7) Kessler Edwards - like
8) Vrenz Bleijenbergh - really like, bring over or stash TBH

At least 1 (probably more) of these guys will be available at pick 45..

too many hopefuls. who will slip??

[Bill Lumbergh]

I would like either a sweet shooting 4, or a PG. Just barely started looking at guys who might be available at our pick. David Johnson of Louisville looks like he might be worth look.

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