In-Season Tournament, Qtr-finals – Celtics @ Pacers – 7:30PM, Mon, Dec. 4, 2023

[playa-hater]

Celtics desperately needed KP out there tonight, Horford and Kornet got absolutely cooked in drop on every play.

Someone like Precious Achuia would be good for this team. Better rim protection than both of those guys and he can defend the perimeter.

We might have that already his name is Queta..

[Bleedsgreen]

Hard not to overreact about this. Yeah, it's just a stupid in-season tournament game, but the Pacers and their crowd had playoff level intensity and we choked. We're supposed to be the season/ veteran playoff team that plays with composure in games like this, but instead we get punked by a bunch of less experienced players that have hardly played in the playoffs before. This isn't a fluke and these guys are running out of excuses at this point.

Ah forget the Heat Series Last year, Golden state before that and we were a Jimmy Butler missed shot from not even making that.

[165bows]

Very rare L when both Jays score 30+. Just the 2nd time it's happened I think. We got nothing out of Horford and Pritchard. Basically nothing out of Holiday.

Bit of a replay of last year when 2-4 guys would play a ton of minutes and barely score. PP has got to hit a few shots, they had 46 minutes of Al/PP/Banton scoring 2 points then Jrue on top of that.

Can kind of go back to the Js creating shots for others but at the same time these guys don’t make it easy with their tiny scoring radii or whatever.

[TheMartian]

What else is new. When the Celtics dont hit threes zero pivot in style and can't score. They easily could have one but can't stop turning it over and spamming threes. Pacers are trash on defense.

And that's the issue with this Team's offense. They are too reliant on an offense centered around the 3-ball, and they don't have a plan B when their 3s are not falling. I don't know what to say.

[jfs1000d]

Celtics desperately needed KP out there tonight, Horford and Kornet got absolutely cooked in drop on every play.

Need KP.


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[jumblin]

Not even prime phil can do miracles with this group. People in this board need to let that coaching crap go.

Then why Does this team continually collapse in the third quarter? Why does this coach continually allow? Sixteen point leads to evaporate while often not even calling a time out?

I want to hear how you answer that one..

This exact problem has existed for our last three head coaches. At some point the fault lies with the guys on the court.

They shipped out most all the players from those old coaches. The Jays are the 2 consistent parts. JT's unwillingness to wear the mantle of leadership really shows up in these tight games, the team is directionless on the court in a way a LeBron or Kobe team never would be. Combine that with JBs love of trying to out dribble 3 people and turning it over, and imo thats why this team sucks down the stretch.

[TheMartian]

Also, I love Jrue and what he brings on defense, but he is just horrid offensively. Seems like all of his shots are rushed, especially his drives to the basket. Doesn't have a sense of control in them.

[Infinite Llamas]

Happy for Nesmith. He never had a consistent role here and it’s nice to see a team actually trying to develop a good young talented player. He was always a better prospect than Pritchard, but there was a price to pay to get Brogdon.

[bucknersrevenge]

26/10/13 assists ZERO turnovers and numerous big shots in the 2nd half. Just an incredible effort by a future All-NBA guy in Haliburton. What makes Indy such a burgeoning threat is that they don't beat themselves on offense with turnovers because Haliburton just won't let them.

[Lee Van Cleef]

If a game really matters, Joe will make sure that we lose. Fire this clown. Bring a proper coach. Even Doc Rivers will do. Yes, I am that desperate.

[zoyathedestroya]

Very rare L when both Jays score 30+. Just the 2nd time it's happened I think. We got nothing out of Horford and Pritchard. Basically nothing out of Holiday.

Bit of a replay of last year when 2-4 guys would play a ton of minutes and barely score. PP has got to hit a few shots, they had 46 minutes of Al/PP/Banton scoring 2 points then Jrue on top of that.

Can kind of go back to the Js creating shots for others but at the same time these guys don’t make it easy with their tiny scoring radii or whatever.

White basically in the Marcus Smart role. He will get blamed for doing much of the heavylifting for the "others." No one else was doing anything outside of Hauser hitting bombs.

[zoyathedestroya]

26/10/13 assists ZERO turnovers and numerous big shots in the 2nd half. Just an incredible effort by a future All-NBA guy in Haliburton. What makes Indy such a burgeoning threat is that they don't beat themselves on offense with turnovers because Haliburton just won't let them.

And we could've had him.

[Jakeopp]

If a game really matters, Joe will make sure that we lose. Fire this clown. Bring a proper coach. Even Doc Rivers will do. Yes, I am that desperate.

[bucknersrevenge]

Also, I love Jrue and what he brings on defense, but he is just horrid offensively. Seems like all of his shots are rushed, especially his drives to the basket. Doesn't have a sense of control in them.

I think it's just that he's a PnR guard who has ALWAYS played best next to a dynamic big (AD, Giannis). With no KD, I think his game is somewhat diminished at that end.

[pac213up]

Top 5 complainer.

How come you didn’t reply to people when they corrected you about on/off? Just curious. You made an incorrect point, got called on it, then ghosted.

Just admit you don’t like the player lol.

The only point I made about on/off is in regards to sample size. There is nothing to debate. Statistically it is a fact.

[KillahGhostface]

Top 5 complainer.

How come you didn’t reply to people when they corrected you about on/off? Just curious. You made an incorrect point, got called on it, then ghosted.

Just admit you don’t like the player lol.

The only point I made about on/off is in regards to sample size. There is nothing to debate. Statistically it is a fact.

Lol yeah that’s what you were doing.

Have a good night.

[165bows]

Very rare L when both Jays score 30+. Just the 2nd time it's happened I think. We got nothing out of Horford and Pritchard. Basically nothing out of Holiday.

Bit of a replay of last year when 2-4 guys would play a ton of minutes and barely score. PP has got to hit a few shots, they had 46 minutes of Al/PP/Banton scoring 2 points then Jrue on top of that.

Can kind of go back to the Js creating shots for others but at the same time these guys don’t make it easy with their tiny scoring radii or whatever.

White basically in the Marcus Smart role. He will get blamed for doing much of the heavylifting for the "others." No one else was doing anything outside of Hauser hitting bombs.

Yeah that’s exactly it. Someone else needs to bring something and they can only bring what they’ve got.

All in all tough to win in today’s game with that three point % disparity. Tough to even keep it close.

KP over Banton makes a big difference here and that sort of understates it. I think this team does need an 8th or 9th man though for nights like this.

[Red2]

Tough loss. Usual suspects: joe not calling a time out, coming out soft in the 3rd, going away from what had been working, tatum taking bad shots and complaining to the refs, poor bench production and failing to make Holiday a bigger part of our offense. Why dont we post him up more? Why don’t we ever try and foul their guys out? Another game where the 3 wasnt falling. At least in the first hslf we attacked the rim. Credit to indiana. They played harder and took it to us. We played on the petimeter most of the second half

[pac213up]

How come you didn’t reply to people when they corrected you about on/off? Just curious. You made an incorrect point, got called on it, then ghosted.

Just admit you don’t like the player lol.

The only point I made about on/off is in regards to sample size. There is nothing to debate. Statistically it is a fact.

Lol yeah that’s what you were doing.

Have a good night.

This is normal statistical noise. That is all I was saying.

Grande quote
In the last 9 games, Jayson Tatum is last on the Celtics in +/-.

+58 with Tatum off the court
-17 with Tatum on.

[TheSheriff]

Hard not to overreact about this. Yeah, it's just a stupid in-season tournament game, but the Pacers and their crowd had playoff level intensity and we choked. We're supposed to be the season/ veteran playoff team that plays with composure in games like this, but instead we get punked by a bunch of less experienced players that have hardly played in the playoffs before. This isn't a fluke and these guys are running out of excuses at this point.

Ah forget the Heat Series Last year, Golden state before that and we were a Jimmy Butler missed shot from not even making that.

Forget all the close games the Celtics won to get the Heat and Warriors Series those years.