Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. "He works hard for the money" Agrees to 4 year 52$ million deal page 32

Andrew McCeltic · Post #881 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:44 pm

Thought the first year salary would have been a little lower or a little higher, either would be in Boston's self-interest. Unclear where they go now. Don't know their internal projections for the cap and tax increases, or their revenues.

Marcus Morris is good enough as a veteran to pay a little luxury tax - being about 3 million over means about 4.5 million in tax payments - going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_tax_(sports)#National_Basketball_Association_(NBA) - at the end of the year - but it starts the clock toward paying the repeater tax a year early. He can help us win a championship - so moving him to save money would depend on the value coming back in return.

FlatearthZorro · Post #882 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:45 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:We are about to kick ass and NO, don't trade Morris! Let's overwhelm teams with our depth!!!

This works in a vacuum but I don't see Morris being happy being the 4th wing on the depth chart (which doesn't even include developing Semi). I think he actually said earlier in the off-season that he was concerned about this. I don't see him being someone like Baynes who is happy playing 30 min one night, 5 min another and taking 2 shots total. If he is fine with it though, then that would be great.

Considering I was amazed at the fact that 80% of the time he touched the ball, he shot it, I wouldn't mind letting him go. He's not nearly as good as he thinks he is. A salary dump followed by Bird signing would be awesome.

FlatearthZorro · Post #883 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:46 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Thought the first year salary would have been a little lower or a little higher, either would be in Boston's self-interest. Unclear where they go now. Don't know their internal projections for the cap and tax increases, or their revenues.

Marcus Morris is good enough as a veteran to pay a little luxury tax - being about 3 million over means about 4.5 million in tax payments - going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_tax_(sports)#National_Basketball_Association_(NBA) - at the end of the year - but it starts the clock toward paying the repeater tax a year early. He can help us win a championship - so moving him to save money would depend on the value coming back in return.

It's up to Danny, as I wrote a few times already, wouldn't mind developing Bird and Semi instead of keeping Morris considering he's gone at the end of the year. Wonder what DA is thinking about it.

brackdan70 · Post #884 » by **brackdan70** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:48 pm

A little more context. This would make Marcus the 105th highest player in the league right between Zack Randolph and Patty Mills. According to HoopsHype

Post #885 » by **K For Three** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:49 pm

truth18 wrote:People who don't like Marcus:

Yes!!! Bumping up for kitty kisses!!! :nod:

Post #886 » by **canman1971** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:49 pm

brackdan70 wrote:A little more context. This would make Marcus the 105th highest player in the league right between Zack Randolph and Patty Mills. According to HoopsHype

Now that should shut people up and end the discussion.

Post #887 » by **Parliament10** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:56 pm

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AzogTheDefilier · Post #888 » by **AzogTheDefilier** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:59 pm

That $11.6 million in year 1...no Luxury tax for the Cs.

GoCeltics123 · Post #889 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:00 pm

Surprised we paid this much. Could mean one of Terry or Kyrie is gonzo next offseason.

radcot · Post #890 » by **radcot** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:00 pm

Great day! Marcus Smart is worth every penny of this contract. Danny said it all: Smart's toughness and intensity are unmatched and unwavering. He is a key player in the Celtics' inexorable march to banner 18.

reload141 · Post #891 » by **reload141** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:02 pm

SMTBSI wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:

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I'm absolutely baffled. Doing something just slightly other than the standard 8% raises - first year salary off by 54k.

They must have a reason to do this. It's a tiny adjustment to make for absolutely no reason.

There's got to be some way it fits in with either something they plan to do, or how the other salaries on the team change in the coming seasons.

Crap. I've got some work ahead of me.

Fark.

As of right now we're over the tax line by 3.047746

Rozier makes 3.050390

That can't be it, but it's quite coincidental.

We’re not trading Rozier.

Celts17Pride · Post #892 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:02 pm

AzogTheDefilier wrote:That $11.6 million in year 1...no Luxury tax for the Cs.

??? Try Again.

BillessuR6 · Post #893 » by **BillessuR6** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Great to see smart extended.

If he signed QO he would definitely get more next season from some desperate team...

Remember posey and TA? We were too cheap then....we are a contender, cant afford to lose key role players...

Posters saying you dont overpay roleplayers? That is true if you are building a team, we already have our stars, now we need to keep the team intact...

Besides just trade yabs and Nader with a 2nd rounder and cash to team under cap and we are under tax...

reload141 · Post #894 » by **reload141** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:10 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:

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Fred Katz is on the money, body fat % rather than just scales weight... Smart has that potential to "chub up" pretty easily and this was one of the biggest hurdles in the last contract we offered him.

Post #895 » by **Parliament10** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 pm

reload141 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:

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Fred Katz is on the money, body fat % rather than just scales weight... Smart has that potential to "chub up" pretty easily and this was one of the biggest hurdles in the last contract we offered him.

Nice little catch.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #896 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:20 pm

Morris is a very good player, to be clear - very good defensively, and he joined the team late and had some injury issues that probably screwed with his offensive judgment and timing. He also chucked shots sometimes because he was playing with teammates who needed someone to chuck shots. How he sees himself at this point, I don’t know - he could be back on a Baynes-style deal - a couple summers back, he looked like the kind of role player who would get a fat raise in salary. Now with the market tightening and correcting, he looks like he deserves Baynes money. But I could see him liking an opportunity elsewhere..

They could wait to see how the team gels in preseason, and how much Yabu and Williams and Theis are able to contribute as frontcourt players, Jaylen, Jayson as scorers at the 3/4.

captain green · Post #897 » by **captain green** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:29 pm

tombattor wrote:
captain green wrote:
Valid wrote:Yeah because I'm sure you know more than the best GM in the league. lol.

I know it's a bad deal don't have to be an expert to know that. What is the upside to overpaying when we had leverage? Where is the upside to losing depth? Where is the upside to being a tax repeater now ? And finally what is the upside to his game improving?

Because everything you said here is wrong.

explain how I'm wrong, so far you've added nothing.

Turgon · Post #898 » by **Turgon** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:33 pm

**** YES!!!

Today is a good day
:rockon:

Jingles · Post #899 » by **Jingles** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:37 pm

Never knew so many people cared about the bank accounts of the Grousbecks and Pagliuca.

Post #900 » by **Parliament10** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:41 pm

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