Trade Ideas Thread

[bisme37]

I'm curious to read some ideas here, but let's pretend the Bucks call and you're Danny Ainge. They offer you Giannis for Tatum, Smart and the Grizzlies pick. What would you do?

Is he signing an extension with that or not ?

Let's say he does. Just a regular max, but only for 3 years.

Nope. With Giannis but not Tatum (or Smart) our ceiling is no better than the Bucks and we all see how that's going.

The thing with Giannis is... he needs a Tatum.

[hugepatsfan]

Imagine if the Bucks would take Brown + young players + picks for Giannis and then you could do some framework of Hayward for Myles Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Giannis/Turner... Omfg

[snowman]

I'm going to try this idea with Detroit again, but add Golden State.

Det out: D. Rose
Det in : #30 in 2020 draft, C. Edwards, Semi Ojeleye

GSW out: future protected 2nd (fake pick)
GSW in: V. Poirier, #47 in 2020 draft

Bos out: V. Poirier, S. Ojeleye, C. Edwards, #30 in 2020 draft, # 47 in 2020 draft
Bos in: D. Rose, future protected 2nd (fake pick)

Why for Det:
Most don't expect Rose to bring back a 1st round pick, but a decent 2nd round. For the price in taking Edwards and Ojeleye for Rose is the difference in the step up to a late 1st from a decent 2nd. Det also saves around 4 mil for their trouble.
Why for GSW:
GSW can use part of their trade exception on a project 7 footer, and get a 2nd round pick for their trouble. Their cost is a top 55 protected 2nd round that will never transfer.
Why for Bos:
Bos clears some roster spaces for the 2 1st picks they still have, and get the bench scorer they need to pair with Smart and to replace Wannamaker. To many time Smart is put into the starting role, and leave the bench with out scoring. Basically, we are giving the # 30 for Rose, and the #47 to move Poirier, Edwards and Ojeleye.

[playa-hater]

I'm going to try this idea with Detroit again, but add Golden State.

Det out: D. Rose
Det in : #30 in 2020 draft, C. Edwards, Semi Ojeleye

GSW out: future protected 2nd (fake pick)
GSW in: V. Poirier, #47 in 2020 draft

Bos out: V. Poirier, S. Ojeleye, C. Edwards, #30 in 2020 draft, # 47 in 2020 draft
Bos in: D. Rose, future protected 2nd (fake pick)

Why for Det:
Most don't expect Rose to bring back a 1st round pick, but a decent 2nd round. For the price in taking Edwards and Ojeleye for Rose is the difference in the step up to a late 1st from a decent 2nd. Det also saves around 4 mil for their trouble.
Why for GSW:
GSW can use part of their trade exception on a project 7 footer, and get a 2nd round pick for their trouble. Their cost is a top 55 protected 2nd round that will never transfer.
Why for Bos:
Bos clears some roster spaces for the 2 1st picks they still have, and get the bench scorer they need to pair with Smart and to replace Wannamaker. To many time Smart is put into the starting role, and leave the bench with out scoring. Basically, we are giving the # 30 for Rose, and the #47 to move Poirier, Edwards and Ojeleye.

I for one would like this..

[Parliament10]

Imagine if the Bucks would take Brown + young players + picks for Giannis and then you could do some framework of Hayward for Myles Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Giannis/Turner... Omfg

That would be a monster team.

[celtics543]

Imagine if the Bucks would take Brown + young players + picks for Giannis and then you could do some framework of Hayward for Myles Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Giannis/Turner... Omfg

That would be a monster team.

I think I'd prefer Hayward on that team though over Turner. Someone to move the ball and that can play point when Kemba is out. I think Hayward has become really underrated here because we beat Philly without him.

[100proof]

Imagine if the Bucks would take Brown + young players + picks for Giannis and then you could do some framework of Hayward for Myles Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Giannis/Turner... Omfg

That would be a monster team.

I think I'd prefer Hayward on that team though over Turner. Someone to move the ball and that can play point when Kemba is out. I think Hayward has become really underrated here because we beat Philly without him.

Hayward is very good player. But his production can be replaced by depth.

Smart off the bench solves the kemba issue. Making any of the proposed trades gives the team more shooting/scoring off the bench and the ability to add more size in the frontcourt. The biggest needs of the team

[Dannyboy36]

I feel like Smart has improved enough on offense to be a starting point guard when the Jays SHOULD both improve their hall handling and creating hoops for other guys. I think this makes trading Kemba and Hayward likely at some point soon. Clearly Kemba is a much better player than Smart but I wonder with all the stars always teaming up if WE will need that to go along with the J’s even if they become everything we hope them to be.

[Dannyboy36]

I think Hayward is a max guy healthy, too. It just seems the Celtics would rather win or lose in short term with having Tatum and brown get their reps for the future even though it’s a lot less efficient. With Gordo out it’s a non issue of course, now.
But even when back Hayward isn’t a Ray Allen that will get comfortable waiting for his standstill 3.

[100proof]

4 team trade

GSW: Gets Hayward, Williams and Number 14
Gives: Wiggins,Looney, #2 and Minny unprotected pick
GSW upgrades the SF spot greatly, and adds a bouncy center to the group.


Detroit: Gets Wiggins, Rozier and number 26
gives: Snell and Rose
Detroit greatly upgrades their talent greatly with some needed wing scoring. Add another 1st rounder

Charlotte: Gets Poirier, Edwards, Looney and a TPE
gices: Rozier
Rozier is not needed in Charlotte anymore after the emergence of Graham at much less money. So Charlotte adds cheap depth and sheds alot of salary.

Boston gets:
Rose, Snell, #2, Minny 2021 unprotected pick
gives: Hayward, #14, #26, Edwards, Poirier and Timelord

Boston adds depth and a top pick in this and the next draft. Shed alot of salary in the deal as well (cutting about 15 million)
MLE and pick #30 to use on depth, #2 on Wiseman, and hope for a homerun pick next year as well.

Kemba/Rose/Waters
Smart/Langford
Brown/Snell/Semi
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Wiseman/Kanter

[bucknersrevenge]

4 team trade

GSW: Gets Hayward, Williams and Number 14
Gives: Wiggins,Looney, #2 and Minny unprotected pick
GSW upgrades the SF spot greatly, and adds a bouncy center to the group.


Detroit: Gets Wiggins, Rozier and number 26
gives: Snell and Rose
Detroit greatly upgrades their talent greatly with some needed wing scoring. Add another 1st rounder

Charlotte: Gets Poirier, Edwards, Looney and a TPE
gices: Rozier
Rozier is not needed in Charlotte anymore after the emergence of Graham at much less money. So Charlotte adds cheap depth and sheds alot of salary.

Boston gets:
Rose, Snell, #2, Minny 2021 unprotected pick
gives: Hayward, #14, #26, Edwards, Poirier and Timelord

Boston adds depth and a top pick in this and the next draft. Shed alot of salary in the deal as well (cutting about 15 million)
MLE and pick #30 to use on depth, #2 on Wiseman, and hope for a homerun pick next year as well.

Kemba/Rose/Waters
Smart/Langford
Brown/Snell/Semi
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Wiseman/Kanter

Charlotte gets hosed in this deal. No way in hell you'd ever convince any Charlotte executive that Rozier is expendable a year after signing him just because of Devonte Graham. If anything, Monk is the guy they might be willing to move on from and that's a big "if".

[100proof]

4 team trade

GSW: Gets Hayward, Williams and Number 14
Gives: Wiggins,Looney, #2 and Minny unprotected pick
GSW upgrades the SF spot greatly, and adds a bouncy center to the group.


Detroit: Gets Wiggins, Rozier and number 26
gives: Snell and Rose
Detroit greatly upgrades their talent greatly with some needed wing scoring. Add another 1st rounder

Charlotte: Gets Poirier, Edwards, Looney and a TPE
gices: Rozier
Rozier is not needed in Charlotte anymore after the emergence of Graham at much less money. So Charlotte adds cheap depth and sheds alot of salary.

Boston gets:
Rose, Snell, #2, Minny 2021 unprotected pick
gives: Hayward, #14, #26, Edwards, Poirier and Timelord

Boston adds depth and a top pick in this and the next draft. Shed alot of salary in the deal as well (cutting about 15 million)
MLE and pick #30 to use on depth, #2 on Wiseman, and hope for a homerun pick next year as well.

Kemba/Rose/Waters
Smart/Langford
Brown/Snell/Semi
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Wiseman/Kanter

Charlotte gets hosed in this deal. No way in hell you'd ever convince any Charlotte executive that Rozier is expendable a year after signing him just because of Devonte Graham. If anything, Monk is the guy they might be willing to move on from and that's a big "if".

Maybe, I didnt think they were a big fan of him anymore over there. They have so many weaknesses, a TPE and small salaries and capspace would allow them to tank out and trade for salary and picks.

[Darth Celtic]

My problem with Hayward is durability. He's a fine player, but would you be happy giving him the kind of extension that Horford got from the Sixers?

yes, if he opts out and we give him 4 years 110m I'd be very happy, 4 120 i'd understand, no higher because of injury concerns.

[100proof]

My problem with Hayward is durability. He's a fine player, but would you be happy giving him the kind of extension that Horford got from the Sixers?

yes, if he opts out and we give him 4 years 110m I'd be very happy, 4 120 i'd understand, no higher because of injury concerns.

If those numbers are part of a sign and trade for a big bench upgrade and a front court upgrade.

[bucknersrevenge]

4 team trade

GSW: Gets Hayward, Williams and Number 14
Gives: Wiggins,Looney, #2 and Minny unprotected pick
GSW upgrades the SF spot greatly, and adds a bouncy center to the group.


Detroit: Gets Wiggins, Rozier and number 26
gives: Snell and Rose
Detroit greatly upgrades their talent greatly with some needed wing scoring. Add another 1st rounder

Charlotte: Gets Poirier, Edwards, Looney and a TPE
gices: Rozier
Rozier is not needed in Charlotte anymore after the emergence of Graham at much less money. So Charlotte adds cheap depth and sheds alot of salary.

Boston gets:
Rose, Snell, #2, Minny 2021 unprotected pick
gives: Hayward, #14, #26, Edwards, Poirier and Timelord

Boston adds depth and a top pick in this and the next draft. Shed alot of salary in the deal as well (cutting about 15 million)
MLE and pick #30 to use on depth, #2 on Wiseman, and hope for a homerun pick next year as well.

Kemba/Rose/Waters
Smart/Langford
Brown/Snell/Semi
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Wiseman/Kanter

Charlotte gets hosed in this deal. No way in hell you'd ever convince any Charlotte executive that Rozier is expendable a year after signing him just because of Devonte Graham. If anything, Monk is the guy they might be willing to move on from and that's a big "if".

Maybe, I didnt think they were a big fan of him anymore over there. They have so many weaknesses, a TPE and small salaries and capspace would allow them to tank out and trade for salary and picks.

I'm not gonna say that I can't be wrong but have you read anything in Charlotte media suggesting that the front office is souring on Rozier already? I haven't.

[100proof]

Charlotte gets hosed in this deal. No way in hell you'd ever convince any Charlotte executive that Rozier is expendable a year after signing him just because of Devonte Graham. If anything, Monk is the guy they might be willing to move on from and that's a big "if".

Maybe, I didnt think they were a big fan of him anymore over there. They have so many weaknesses, a TPE and small salaries and capspace would allow them to tank out and trade for salary and picks.

I'm not gonna say that I can't be wrong but have you read anything in Charlotte media suggesting that the front office is souring on Rozier already? I haven't.

More from fans. But there was a report around the deadline of a deal moving him to NYK for Randle as the basis.

[bucknersrevenge]

Maybe, I didnt think they were a big fan of him anymore over there. They have so many weaknesses, a TPE and small salaries and capspace would allow them to tank out and trade for salary and picks.

I'm not gonna say that I can't be wrong but have you read anything in Charlotte media suggesting that the front office is souring on Rozier already? I haven't.

More from fans. But there was a report around the deadline of a deal moving him to NYK for Randle as the basis.

That Deadline stuff sounds a lot like conjecture. I think they're happy with him. multi-team deals are damn near impossible to make anymore. Especially after a season like this with all the financial factors impacting all teams.

[100proof]

I'm not gonna say that I can't be wrong but have you read anything in Charlotte media suggesting that the front office is souring on Rozier already? I haven't.

More from fans. But there was a report around the deadline of a deal moving him to NYK for Randle as the basis.

That Deadline stuff sounds a lot like conjecture. I think they're happy with him. multi-team deals are damn near impossible to make anymore. Especially after a season like this with all the financial factors impacting all teams.

I do agree with that.

I also think that Detroit can be enticed to take on Wiggins as well. Perhaps reached with adding in Rozier.

[100proof]

https://tradenba.com/trades/KEpxaCvXZ

TODAYS TAKE

Dallas gets: Hayward, Kanter Bucks first,
gives: Powell, THJ, their 1st

Sacramento gets; Powell, Dieng, Edwards, Boston first
gives: Hield, Bjelica,

Grizzlies get: THJ, Poirier, Brunson and GSW second
Give: Clarke and Gieng

Boston gets: Clarke, Heild, Bjelica, #18
gives: Hayward, Kanter, Poirier, Edwards, Boston first, Bucks first.

Dallas upgrades SF spot dramatically. Kanter adds front court scoring off bench.
Kings shed long term salary and add young cost controlled assets
Grizzlies add a wing shooter and shed some salary and take on no long term salary commitments leaving them with max capspace next offseason.
Boston downgrades starting lineup replacing Hayward with Heild but add tremendous shooting and upgrade bench dramatically in the front court.

Kemba/Smart/#14
Heild/Langford/#18
Brown/MLE/Semi
Tatum/Clarke/GWilliams
Theis/Bjelica/Timelord

#14 and #18 will give 3rd wings and MLE to fill backup SF role.

[VeryMuchWoke]

Imagine if the Bucks would take Brown + young players + picks for Giannis and then you could do some framework of Hayward for Myles Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Giannis/Turner... Omfg

Why would we trade Hayward for an average center? Hayward is way more useful with Giannis than Turner.