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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#881 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:58 pm

captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac



I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#882 » by Squigglepuffin » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:58 pm

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threrf23 wrote:I must say that Okoro looks impressive in highlights. Based on stats, scouting reports, and highlights...I think Vince Carter is a good comp? idk, not my top choice, but I would trust Danny if we traded up for him.

I wouldn't trade up for Haliburton, he wouldn't even appeal much to me at 14.


His highlights look like a slightly less explosive Jaylen Brown prospect. That would be a “flood the wings” strategy that I would struggle to understand. When captain green said we had “Isaac” on the board double underlined I figured he meant the oft (and currently) injured guy in ORL:)


I wouldn't be surprised if Ainge lked Haliburton. DA loves guys with long wingspans. Hali is a very smart player, that's for sure. His advanced stats are really good. Personally, I just think if we were to draft OO our lineup would be set for years and years to come.

I agree that I would fail to understand trading up for Okoro (because he's another wing) except that he does have a huge amount of potential similar to JB did coming out of college - high level athletes who are smart guys with work ethic but haven't developed the high level of skill yet necessary to excel in the NBA.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#883 » by Squigglepuffin » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:03 pm

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captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac



I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.


I think that would hurt the organisation's reputation by trading a max free agent only one year after signing him.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#884 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:04 pm

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captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac



I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.


I think that would hurt the organisation's reputation by trading a max free agent only one year after signing him.


Naw. I think most saw signing Kemba as an asset retention move.

And most likely Kemba wouldnt actually be shopped until next offseason if Haliburton pans out.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#885 » by JHTruth » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:23 pm

100proof wrote:
Squigglepuffin wrote:
100proof wrote:

I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.


I think that would hurt the organisation's reputation by trading a max free agent only one year after signing him.


Naw. I think most saw signing Kemba as an asset retention move.

And most likely Kemba wouldnt actually be shopped until next offseason if Haliburton pans out.


Hali would be the long-term answer but Hali would probably start and learn in the meantime next to Kemba. Sort of like SGA and CP in OKC. Who know how much longer Kemba's knee is going to hold up to allow him to play at a high level. It appears to be a significant problem.

Hali
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Rob

Grant
Reed
Romeo
Carsen?

Could do some long term damage..
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#886 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:43 pm

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Squigglepuffin wrote:
I think that would hurt the organisation's reputation by trading a max free agent only one year after signing him.


Naw. I think most saw signing Kemba as an asset retention move.

And most likely Kemba wouldnt actually be shopped until next offseason if Haliburton pans out.


Hali would be the long-term answer but Hali would probably start and learn in the meantime next to Kemba. Sort of like SGA and CP in OKC. Who know how much longer Kemba's knee is going to hold up to allow him to play at a high level. It appears to be a significant problem.

Hali
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Rob

Grant
Reed
Romeo
Carsen?

Could do some long term damage..


I am fine with that too.

Get Kemba healthy, get his value at its peak and move on from him then.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#887 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:56 pm

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captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac



I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.

or we need a replacement for Wannamaker and somebody who could be ready to take over in 3 years at pg.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#888 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:47 pm

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100proof wrote:
captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac



I would love to see this team with those guys on it. lol

I would have to think that if Haliburton ended up a celtics then Kemba must be possibly shopped.


I think that would hurt the organisation's reputation by trading a max free agent only one year after signing him.

I don't think anyone would give a **** except for fans. Did trading Blake Griffin like a week after signing a max contract hinder the Clippers' ability to acquire Kawhi Leonard and Paul George? Boston traded away IT after he gave them everything he had and then signed Gordon Hayward and Kemba Walker without much issue.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#889 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm

Kemba isn’t getting traded lol. We can stop that discussion right now.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#891 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:36 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:Kemba isn’t getting traded lol. We can stop that discussion right now.


why?
Cause you say so?

Kemba will get traded, maybe not this year but he will be at some point. He doesnt fit the timeline and he has potentially wonky knees and he is terrible defensively and he is not a multi positional player.

If team gets Haliburton then Kemba will be traded by next offseason.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#892 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:43 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:Kemba isn’t getting traded lol. We can stop that discussion right now.


why?
Cause you say so?

Kemba will get traded, maybe not this year but he will be at some point. He doesnt fit the timeline and he has potentially wonky knees and he is terrible defensively and he is not a multi positional player.

If team gets Haliburton then Kemba will be traded by next offseason.


Because were not trying to trade Kemba. This isnt NBA2K.

Also, Haliburton projects more as an off-guard than an on-ball guard.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#893 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:56 pm

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100proof wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:Kemba isn’t getting traded lol. We can stop that discussion right now.


why?
Cause you say so?

Kemba will get traded, maybe not this year but he will be at some point. He doesnt fit the timeline and he has potentially wonky knees and he is terrible defensively and he is not a multi positional player.

If team gets Haliburton then Kemba will be traded by next offseason.


Because were not trying to trade Kemba. This isnt NBA2K.

Also, Haliburton projects more as an off-guard than an on-ball guard.



Team is trying to make itself better. that is business.

And Haliburton is not more of an off-guard at all. That is just wrong. he is adept at either position as projects as a PG. Have you watched any games? looked at any single draftsite report on him? None have him listed as a SG and non have him listed as being more of an offguard. None.

He is a unique PG with the size and defensive and shooting ability to play off ball.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/tyrese-haliburton/ - draftnet - PG
https://nbadraftroom.com/p/tyrese-haliburton/ - draftroom - PG
https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prospects/tyrese-haliburton#/ - nba.com - PG
http://www.tankathon.com/players/tyrese-haliburton - Tankathon - PG
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/the-most-intriguing-player-in-the-nba-draft-iowa-states-tyrese-haliburton-181100953.html - Yahoo.com - PG
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/tyrese-haliburton-scouting-report/ - NBA Scouting.com - PG
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2901730-nba-mock-draft-2020-latest-predictions-for-tyrese-haliburton-top-pgs - Bleacherreport - PG
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-mock-draft-lamelo-ball-jumps-up-to-no-1-selection-by-the-timberwolves-in-first-two-round-mock/ - CBS - PG
https://www.lineups.com/articles/nba-mock-draft-guide-2020/ - lineups.com - PG
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Post#894 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:03 pm

If there is one thing to be sure of: if a report comes out that the Celtics are interested in a specific player, the report is wrong.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#895 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:08 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:If there is one thing to be sure of: if a report comes out that the Celtics are interested in a specific player, the report is wrong.


Most likely. lol
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#896 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:40 pm

100proof wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:Kemba isn’t getting traded lol. We can stop that discussion right now.


why?
Cause you say so?

Kemba will get traded, maybe not this year but he will be at some point. He doesnt fit the timeline and he has potentially wonky knees and he is terrible defensively and he is not a multi positional player.

If team gets Haliburton then Kemba will be traded by next offseason.



No because this isn’t 2K where you trade your PG who just signed a max deal with you and wanted to come here. Let alone the fact he’s been a great leader (his whole career), locker room presence, and is loved by the front office.

The Celtics aren’t looking to trade him right now. And no, if they get Halliburton that doesn’t mean Kemba is gone lol. Halliburton is actually a great fit off the ball, hence why the Hawks are reportedly enamored with him to put him next to Trae Young...
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Post#897 » by JHTruth » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:44 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:If there is one thing to be sure of: if a report comes out that the Celtics are interested in a specific player, the report is wrong.


It's not a "report". It's intel from someone inside the C's org. I agree that media members get fed BS all the time..
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Post#898 » by leper-con » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:49 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If there is one thing to be sure of: if a report comes out that the Celtics are interested in a specific player, the report is wrong.


It's not a "report". It's intel from someone inside the C's org. I agree that media members get fed BS all the time..



What was the intel?
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Post#899 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:49 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If there is one thing to be sure of: if a report comes out that the Celtics are interested in a specific player, the report is wrong.


It's not a "report". It's intel from someone inside the C's org. I agree that media members get fed BS all the time..

It's the same thing.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#900 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:56 pm

Reading here for a long long time. Not everything somebody says happens. Just because we like somebody, doesn't mean we like somebody else more. There are people here who seem to come out with stuff that comes out in the media as true years later though.

If you pay attention, which I do, early rumors when we were still playing was we loved Halliburton. Trade up rumors have been also linked to him.

Other stuff and interviews the Celtics have admitted if they can interview the top prospects out of reach before the draft they do, because that gives them a feel for guys when they become available for trade, or free agency. I think Obi fits that category. Unless he falls it's unlikely we have the acceptable to both parties assets to move up that far. Halliburton has a good chance to be around 7-10 where we can trade up rather easy. If he falls and we move up, I would actually expect a 14 30 and 47 for 7 type move.
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