Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[165bows]

I think this falls prey to aggregation rules, but anyways:

Suns get: Holiday, PP, Hauser, Claxton
Send out: Durant and G. Allen

Celtics get Durant and ~25M in savings
Send out: KP, PP, Holiday, Hauser

Brooklyn gets: KP, G. Allen maybe picks or meh young players
Sends out: Claxton

Boston brings back Horford and Kornet on vet min and a bunch of rookie second round/udfa guys.

Start White/Brown/Jt/KD/Horford once Tatum is back.

Bench of Kornet, Queta, Davison, Peterson, Walsh, Scheierman etc etc.

That offense would cook but it would be a bit like this year of keeping everyone healthy and kind of old and a little soft on athleticism.

[yeleven11]

https://bsky.app/profile/winthemargins.bsky.social/post/3lpucdadgbc2g

Nice little trade i made up lol come follow me there if yall on it

[chrisab123]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/nba-stories/celtics-offseason-trade-intel-after-jayson-tatum-injury-siegels-scoop

TL/DR Tatum and Brown aren't going anywhere. Pritchard likely staying too. Luke may walk in free agency for more $. Horford will be resigned. KP, Jrue, Hauser, White could be on the trade block..between jrue/KP,white, the most likely to be moved is KP..least likely is white.

At this time, there aren't any indications that Payton Pritchard, the 2024-25 NBA Sixth Man of the Year, will be moved in the offseason. Not long ago, Pritchard wanted out of Boston to find a solidified role elsewhere since he wasn't getting minutes. That narrative is no more, as Pritchard proved to be one of the most important offensive weapons for the Celtics this season outside of their All-Stars.

If he were to be moved, sources say Pritchard would be included in a larger, unexpected move Stevens could pull off in the summer. The Celtics do not view him as a player who can be utilized in a salary dump

Wtf does that refer to

It refers to if the Celtics want to get a Point Guard upgrade like a Ja Morant after trading Jrue or using Jrue with PP after dumping KP

[neno]

So if a team was to sign or resign a player this off-season July 2nd for example could they make a non guarantee or partial guarantee with guarantee date after the trade deadline
I.E. Lakers resign Markieff Morris to a 2 year 60 million unguaranteed deal with guarantee date after trade deadline (March 4 for example)
Trade to celtics for porzingis
Celtics waive Morris and fully unguaranteed contract and boom were under 2nd apron at end of next season?

[165bows]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/nba-stories/celtics-offseason-trade-intel-after-jayson-tatum-injury-siegels-scoop

TL/DR Tatum and Brown aren't going anywhere. Pritchard likely staying too. Luke may walk in free agency for more $. Horford will be resigned. KP, Jrue, Hauser, White could be on the trade block..between jrue/KP,white, the most likely to be moved is KP..least likely is white.

At this time, there aren't any indications that Payton Pritchard, the 2024-25 NBA Sixth Man of the Year, will be moved in the offseason. Not long ago, Pritchard wanted out of Boston to find a solidified role elsewhere since he wasn't getting minutes. That narrative is no more, as Pritchard proved to be one of the most important offensive weapons for the Celtics this season outside of their All-Stars.

If he were to be moved, sources say Pritchard would be included in a larger, unexpected move Stevens could pull off in the summer. The Celtics do not view him as a player who can be utilized in a salary dump

Wtf does that refer to

It refers to if the Celtics want to get a Point Guard upgrade like a Ja Morant after trading Jrue or using Jrue with PP after dumping KP

Sounds super unfeasible on a bunch of different levels.

[yeleven11]

So if a team was to sign or resign a player this off-season July 2nd for example could they make a non guarantee or partial guarantee with guarantee date after the trade deadline
I.E. Lakers resign Markieff Morris to a 2 year 60 million unguaranteed deal with guarantee date after trade deadline (March 4 for example)
Trade to celtics for porzingis
Celtics waive Morris and fully unguaranteed contract and boom were under 2nd apron at end of next season?

Nope.

[djFan71]

I've mention Durant before. A stop gap until JT comes back. Would be hard to do.

Feels pointless. And I love KD, but screw him and coming here. He had his chances. Multiple. Plus, he wouldn’t want to without JT. Just not worth it from all sides.

They’d have to feel like JT would be back in that actual 9 month timeline.

The other part imo is they’d really have to feel like they could develop their young players into legitimate rotation pieces over a couple of years since they’d have to cut salary in subsequent years. They’d get some real playing time though lol

Edit: the thing that makes sense about imo is it’s a big enough move maybe they get Horford and Kornet back on minimum deals. If they don’t go for it next year seems much more likely those two guys leave or want more money in which case the team is back to starting from scratch in the front court.

I’ve wondered about that last part with Al and Luke. I still hate the KD idea -don’t see a path that makes sense asset wise to match his salary and get under the 2nd. But having a winning team helps retain our bigs.

Kinda why I throw out trades galore, but always fall back on Jrue for 2 usable players and Hauser to an exception as the main moves. Keep JB and KP and be ready for JT to come back. Sign KP to a cheap new contract after next year cuz he loves it here and is a walking medical risk.

[redslastlaugh]

Al's been a great Celtic, but I'd only offer him a minimum extension to come back.
He'll be 40 yrs at the end of next season and he's been pushed by age so far from the hoop that he's at .5 FTs per game and 6 reb
We need a younger big, and after moving KP and some money around hopefully we can bring some youth to the 5-spot
I love Al but at 40 yrs, he can't be our main bigman next yr if KP is gone

[playa-hater]

If Jrue ends up getting traded this summer my prediction is that it'll be to the Clippers. The formula is all there. Team that doesn't care about spending, veteran group that is desperate to win now, has role players/contracts to flip in a deal, Jrue is from LA, and the Clippers were in on Jrue prior to Boston acquiring him 2 summers ago.
Something along the lines of Jrue to LAC for Jones Jr/Bogdanovic/#30. Couple veteran wing role players that can help in Tatum's absence, plus an additional pick. Boston would then have #28/30/32 in the draft giving them ammunition to move up, down, or make a subsequent trade.

Clippers are a definite partner.

I could see Hauser/Tillman into their TPEs for #30/#51 in this year's draft. Starts the cost savings for almost $10M next year.

Maybe Jrue but how does LAC add that salary gets a lot more complicated.

The trade I proposed above works in the trade machine

I would definitely do this trade. Just the fact that we trade Jrue and not lose any assets is a plus. But to actually get some assets is too good from what everyone is saying.. so Deal!!!

[tfmiii]

Dallas is easy.

but it doesnt save the team money, so additional moves need made.

Jrue
Gafford, Marshall and Martin or Christie

Done.

I mean from Dallas' perspective, it puts them into the second apron

Maybe a 3 team deal then..with Dallas getting Jrue..Dallas sending out salary/assets to a 3rd team who has enough cap space to take those salaries in (some combination of martin, marshall, gafford..) and then Boston receives some assets from the 3rd team (cheap players, picks..)

A 3 team trade also allows us to only take back 60% of Jrue's salary

[BostoNZ]

Terence Mann, Niang, #22

For

KP, #32

Atlanta clears bad long term money, add shooting, stays in similar draft range.

Celtics probably turn into a bigger trade to save more $$ using #28

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[BleedGreen1989]

Looking pretty fair that in hindsight everyone gave Brad a bit too much slack for the Jrue extension.

[165bows]

Looking pretty fair that in hindsight everyone gave Brad a bit too much slack for the Jrue extension.

Eh maybe but it’s also a little early for hindsight

[Hal14]

Looking pretty fair that in hindsight everyone gave Brad a bit too much slack for the Jrue extension.

Eh maybe but it’s also a little early for hindsight

You guys both have a picture of Brad with glasses for an avatar, so I'll just assume you're the same person..

[playa-hater]

The Nets having 4 1st rd picks and probably no desire for 4 more rookies all while having a ton of Cap room makes me believe they are the team to do Business with.

Make it happen Brad!

[redslastlaugh]

I don't think in 18 yrs Danny Ainge even one time paid picks to get off a bad contract, maybe he did with Jajaun Johnson or something
but maybe never, Ainge loved getting picks, making picks but not spending picks, lol

Yep, It was Brad who had to spend a pick to get off Kemba's bad contract which Ainge signed.

Are we all forgetting the Enes Freedom/Bane debacle?

In Ainge's defense, the Enes/Bane pick was a little different imo. Firstly, we traded the pick on draft night, where we knew it was #30, it wasn't like a pick 2 or 5 years out where it could land much higher or even be unprotected.

And when we did the 3-team deal, we got two 2nd round picks back, and one became the #35 from PDX in 2023 which went to Washington in the Porzingis trade. And I don't know what exactly was the second 2nd round pick we got or where it went. It might have went out in Gordon Hayward sign-n-trade or Muscala acquisition or something.

But even leaving aside the other 2nd round pick. Trading #30 on draft night to dump Enes and getting #35 (plus another 2nd) back is not what we're facing in this present pick-sweetening world. It's only tough because Bane became a 20 point scorer, max-contract level of player not that the value at the time of the deal was bad. Or had a big downside risk far out in time.

[celtxman]

I still believe that trading Jrue is the top priority to be traded. Not because he deserves to be gone, but because it is the contract that they just can't realistically hold and stay away from the 2nd apron next season.
Jrue to Detroit for the expiring contracts of Hardaway, Schroeder, and another small expiring by July 1. Not sure with aggregating salaries if they can add in Hauser because this trade takes them below the 2nd apron. There are conflicting stories which team would add assets.
If this happens you now are not pressured on KP. He can be a real asset. But not before July 1 with his breathing issue. So unless the Celtics don't believe his market won't change, I would wait to get value in return. I understand why the Celtics wouldn't trust him in a 3rd playoff season. But they also have to acquire a legitimate center if they trade him

[brackdan70]

Terence Mann, Niang, #22

For

KP, #32

Atlanta clears bad long term money, add shooting, stays in similar draft range.

Celtics probably turn into a bigger trade to save more $$ using #28

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This make it really hard to reset the repeater tax in 26/27.
The Cs likely have that as goal number one and getting under the 2nd Apron asap as goal 2
I would t expect any trades that don’t work toward one of those two goals.

[brackdan70]

I still believe that trading Jrue is the top priority to be traded. Not because he deserves to be gone, but because it is the contract that they just can't realistically hold and stay away from the 2nd apron next season.
Jrue to Detroit for the expiring contracts of Hardaway, Schroeder, and another small expiring by July 1. Not sure with aggregating salaries if they can add in Hauser because this trade takes them below the 2nd apron. There are conflicting stories which team would add assets.
If this happens you now are not pressured on KP. He can be a real asset. But not before July 1 with his breathing issue. So unless the Celtics don't believe his market won't change, I would wait to get value in return. I understand why the Celtics wouldn't trust him in a 3rd playoff season. But they also have to acquire a legitimate center if they trade him

If they aggregate they get hard capped at the second apron. Can they stay there.

[Fierce1]

Brad needs to make moves that will give the Cs a shot at winning because JT might return in March.