All things Draft Pick. #3

[fallguy]

Keep thinking that. This team is in its infancy right now. Make smart draft choices and grow that baby. I want a powerhouse for the next decade plus. Not just 2-3 years.

How old are you?

What does it matter? Wanting sustained success is age dependent?

No, but your view of things is pretty adolescent. Just curious if you were very young.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Indy needs to save face. If johnson is stupid enough to give them the #2 pick, good lord please let him.

So I take it the 3rd for George plus Jaylen etc is to much as well, correct?

Obviously?

[aim2please]

Crazy thought, that's probably pointless at this point. But is there a chance that the PHI-BOS deal is altered now that it seems like PG could end up in LA before the season starts? Not honoring an agreement is a big no-no, but I feel these circumstances are different.

After this news, value of that LAL pick went down. If PG is playing for the Lakers, that pick would have minimal chance of being 2-5, and C's suddenly have only 1 shot of getting valuable lotto pick back. That was part of the value.

[ViperGTS]

Viper, this deal makes that more of a reality.

But Johnson flipping 2 isn't Smart? Yet three and more pieces is?

Doesn't make sense.

[Green89]

Indy needs to save face. If johnson is stupid enough to give them the #2 pick, good lord please let him.

So I take it the 3rd for George plus Jaylen etc is to much as well, correct?

[Slartibartfast]

Crazy thought, that's probably pointless at this point. But is there a chance that the PHI-BOS deal is altered now that it seems like PG could end up in LA before the season starts? Not honoring an agreement is a big no-no, but I feel these circumstances are different.

After this news, value of that LAL pick went down. If PG is playing for the Lakers, that pick would have minimal chance of being 2-5, and C's suddenly have only 1 shot of getting valuable lotto pick back. That was part of the value.

Lemon laws!

[ViperGTS]

How old are you?

What does it matter? Wanting sustained success is age dependent?

No, but your view of things is pretty adolescent. Just curious if you were very young.

My view of things is adolescent? Wanting multiple titles is adolescent? Wanting the Cs to build a wagon for at least a decade or more is adolescent?

I have a question for you. Do you do drugs? Because only people who want a quick fix are in favor of trading major pieces for parts that won't build towards that goal. Great initial high followed by bouts of depression and wanting.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Viper, this deal makes that more of a reality.

But Johnson flipping 2 isn't Smart? Yet three and more pieces is?

Doesn't make sense.

I could give a **** between 1 and 3, and clearly danny agrees. Were talking about the future pick.

[ViperGTS]

Crazy thought, that's probably pointless at this point. But is there a chance that the PHI-BOS deal is altered now that it seems like PG could end up in LA before the season starts? Not honoring an agreement is a big no-no, but I feel these circumstances are different.

After this news, value of that LAL pick went down. If PG is playing for the Lakers, that pick would have minimal chance of being 2-5, and C's suddenly have only 1 shot of getting valuable lotto pick back. That was part of the value.

Lemon laws!

If that deal wasn't negotiated with that exact scenario in mind by Danny, then that's another in the fireable offense category.

[ViperGTS]

Viper, this deal makes that more of a reality.

But Johnson flipping 2 isn't Smart? Yet three and more pieces is?

Doesn't make sense.

I could give a **** between 1 and 3, and clearly danny agrees. Were talking about the future pick.

At this point, based on what's leaking out..what Danny thinks may be worth at least questioning..no?

[winsomme2]

This may turn out to be a great trade but just once I wanted the number one pick in the draft ! And I'm tired of waiting for us to use our "assets" . It finally looked like all of that patience was going to be rewarded with the number one pick and then Danny trades it. Talk about taking the air out of the balloon. Drafting another guard was always going to be tough and not too long ago Danny said he needed to balance out the roster so I can understand wanting to do that . I assumed that once we got Fultz that bradley or smart or Rozier were gone .But something happened when they brought Fultz in. When Danny didn't immediately gush about him I thought something was up.if Danny thought Fultz was the next kyrie or harden he would have taken him regardless of roster imbalance . I think Bryan colangelo is a good evaluator of talent so either he's wrong or Danny's wrong . And since I haven't been enamored of Danny's drafting , the possibility that he got this wrong is very frightening. But if he got it right and picks the right guy at 3 and gets another 1st in the process - well then Danny will be regarded as one of the best gms ever

Might have discovered that the trade value of smart, Bradley and rosier just isn't there. So they end up being more valuable to us than in trade.

I'm not sure I'm seeing a plan A scenario anymore. The only shot I'm seeing is if Tatum or Johnson is actually an elite prospect and we keep and develop him, but I just don't see that from either of them. I think colangelo just got the better of us...

My final hope is Dennis Smith. I could rally for him. He plays just like Westbrook.

[BigTrade92]

So would you guys do the #3 + salary straight up for George, no extension?

[LarryBirdsFingr]

But Johnson flipping 2 isn't Smart? Yet three and more pieces is?

Doesn't make sense.

I could give a **** between 1 and 3, and clearly danny agrees. Were talking about the future pick.

At this point, based on what's leaking out..what Danny thinks may be worth at least questioning..no?

Question it, sure. Is there anything any of us can do to change it? No. So trying to understand the reasoning behind it, then looking at the outcome...it seems pretty obvious to me?

[DK-All Day]

So would you guys do the #3 + salary straight up for George, no extension?

Of course not.

[The Corey's]

So would you guys do the #3 + salary straight up for George, no extension?

Protected clippers pick (17-24)

That's it

[Slartibartfast]

This may turn out to be a great trade but just once I wanted the number one pick in the draft ! And I'm tired of waiting for us to use our "assets" . It finally looked like all of that patience was going to be rewarded with the number one pick and then Danny trades it. Talk about taking the air out of the balloon. Drafting another guard was always going to be tough and not too long ago Danny said he needed to balance out the roster so I can understand wanting to do that . I assumed that once we got Fultz that bradley or smart or Rozier were gone .But something happened when they brought Fultz in. When Danny didn't immediately gush about him I thought something was up.if Danny thought Fultz was the next kyrie or harden he would have taken him regardless of roster imbalance . I think Bryan colangelo is a good evaluator of talent so either he's wrong or Danny's wrong . And since I haven't been enamored of Danny's drafting , the possibility that he got this wrong is very frightening. But if he got it right and picks the right guy at 3 and gets another 1st in the process - well then Danny will be regarded as one of the best gms ever

Might have discovered that the trade value of smart, Bradley and rosier just isn't there. So they end up being more valuable to us than in trade.

I'm not sure I'm seeing a plan A scenario anymore. The only shot I'm seeing is if Tatum or Johnson is actually an elite prospect and we keep and develop him, but I just don't see that from either of them. I think colangelo just got the better of us...

My final hope is Dennis Smith. I could rally for him. He plays just like Westbrook.

I don't think you can BC got the better of us. It's just he can afford to give a lot of value with Philly's coffers.

There's definitely a drop from Fultz to the rest of this draft's top 5-10 in my mind, but a very significant chance at another top 5 pick is pretty substantial value.

Agree on the rest.

[ViperGTS]

I could give a **** between 1 and 3, and clearly danny agrees. Were talking about the future pick.

At this point, based on what's leaking out..what Danny thinks may be worth at least questioning..no?

Question it, sure. Is there anything any of us can do to change it? No. So trying to understand the reasoning behind it, then looking at the outcome...it seems pretty obvious to me?

Good point. I just am a bit..nah..really concerned about what he's doing. Punting on Fultz, now a small smear campaign against Fultz. I don't like it. Feels bad..and kind of dirty.

[Slartibartfast]

So would you guys do the #3 + salary straight up for George, no extension?

Protected clippers pick (17-24)

That's it

That's silly. That's what Ainge gave up for half a season of Toine. A season of PG is worth considerably more.

[Spin Cycle]

If there's one thing I've learned of Ainge is .... he's F'n SAVAGE. I remember he traded that 5th pick years ago for Ray Allen and everyone was like wtf dude, then BAM, KG 2 BOS-Town!

I'm just wondering who he's eyeing. Is it really PG13? Jimmy Butler? Or straight left field Anthony Davis? Or he just doesn't want Fultz.

[ViperGTS]

So would you guys do the #3 + salary straight up for George, no extension?

Protected clippers pick (17-24)

That's it

That's silly. That's what Ainge gave up for half a season of Toine. A season of PG is worth considerably more.

Not much more. Add in the Cs first round pick this year and next maybe.