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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#941 » by Triple M » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:41 pm

Strong 2nd Q for Darussafaka

leading 43 - 22

quite the reversal from trailing after the first 13-11

haven't seen Ante get many touches on offense but he had 2 blocks in that quarter and our old friend Luke H threw one down.

Apparently Ante has 7 boards and 4 points
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Post#942 » by Triple M » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:41 pm

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Post#943 » by Higgs Boston » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:53 pm

Elrod is Back wrote:On Celtic Talk today, Guerschon Yabusele conceded to A. Sherrod Blakely that he has 7 percent body fat, not the 6 percent that Austin Ainge reported. He also weighs 276 pounds.

He also likes the Dancing Bear nickname.

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/guerschon-yabusele-joins-celtics-talk-podcast


He has to lose some weight (or a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regarding his body, not a **** bastard like sullinger.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#944 » by DarkAzcura » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:59 pm

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Elrod is Back wrote:On Celtic Talk today, Guerschon Yabusele conceded to A. Sherrod Blakely that he has 7 percent body fat, not the 6 percent that Austin Ainge reported. He also weighs 276 pounds.

He also likes the Dancing Bear nickname.

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/guerschon-yabusele-joins-celtics-talk-podcast


He has to lose some weight (a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regard to his body, not a scoundrel like sullinger.


Well if his body fat% is 7, I don't think you have to worry about that..I also wouldn't say he can't bear that weight. If his body fat percentage is that low, he has a ton of muscle. 275 pounds is heavy, but it's not particularly uncommon in the NBA or anything.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#945 » by derblitzenator » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:13 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:
Elrod is Back wrote:On Celtic Talk today, Guerschon Yabusele conceded to A. Sherrod Blakely that he has 7 percent body fat, not the 6 percent that Austin Ainge reported. He also weighs 276 pounds.

He also likes the Dancing Bear nickname.

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/guerschon-yabusele-joins-celtics-talk-podcast


He has to lose some weight (a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regarding his body, not a **** bastard like sullinger.


He was averaging more than 30 minutes per game in China, so he seems to have good endurance playing at that weight. Karl Malone and Charles Barkley played heavy and were very effective. It remains to be seen whether he needs to lose weight. One of the reasons he was drafted was because he takes up a lot of space and can box people out.
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#946 » by Elrod is Back » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:19 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:
Elrod is Back wrote:On Celtic Talk today, Guerschon Yabusele conceded to A. Sherrod Blakely that he has 7 percent body fat, not the 6 percent that Austin Ainge reported. He also weighs 276 pounds.

He also likes the Dancing Bear nickname.

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/guerschon-yabusele-joins-celtics-talk-podcast


He has to lose some weight (a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regard to his body, not a scoundrel like sullinger.


This is silly. The dude has 7 percent body fat. That is probably in the lowest 5-10 percent of all NBA players. For him to lose "a lot" of weight would mean dropping a lot of muscle. His strength and size is more genetic than the result of gonzo weightlifting assisted by pharmaceuticals.

He is a freak. Period. A one-in-100,000 body type. Very much like Jim Brown, the legendary NFL running back, who is a good comparison. Brown stood 6-2 and weighed 230 with a 32 inch waistline. Barely any body fat, just like Yabs. He played in an era before weightlifting when linemen weighed in the 240-250 range.

Yabs would probably weigh around 230 if he was 6-2 and not 6-7. He is not overweight. He is not the result of crazy weightlifting assisted by drugs. He is a winner of the genetic lottery. He should no more try to lose "a lot" of weight than Jim Brown should have lost "a lot" of weight.

Oh, by the way, Jim Brown never missed a game in his 9 year NFL career. I think he still weighs around 225 or 230 today, at age 81. He looks like he could still play.

Sullinger is another matter altogether. He can be clumped with Oliver Miller, Hot Plate Williams, Tractor Traylor, Mike Sweetney and several other talented blubber balls who could not control their weight. Those guys, even in their best shape, probably never came close to 15 percent body fat, and usually were much much higher. We have no evidence whatsoever that Yabs has a problem with gaining weight like those dudes. 7 percent body fat tells us that. So does one look at the picture higher up in the thread of a shirtless Yabusele.

The Dancing Bear is just fine the way he is now. What he does not need to do is what most NBA players his age do: build muscle mass and gain weight into their mid-to-late 20s. He has been blessed with extraordinary size and athletic gifts befitting a person who weigh 50 pounds less at the same height. He can just concentrate of developing his skills and quickness and agility. So starve himself down to 240 because Sullinger has an eating disorder? That would be like starving Jim Brown down to 195 for no reason whatsoever.
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Post#947 » by 24istheLAW » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:50 pm

Yabusele is fine as he is. But there's no way 7% body fast is in the lowest 5-10% of NBA players. Most NBA players are virtually fatless.

Does anyone think Bradley is over 7%? Thomas? Rozier? Gerald Green? Crowder is shredded. Horford is very lean. Surely a large percentage of NBA players are under 7%, and approaching or at the point where whatever body fat they do have is only what you need to be healthy and alive.
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Post#948 » by Parasite » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:38 pm

How do we know that he is at 7% body fat? Just because he says so? I mean, maybe he is but has it been confirmed by a medical source? I guess I'm just uncomfortable from the whole Sullinger fiasco. What a waste that guy was. So talented...
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Post#949 » by Elrod is Back » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:39 pm

24istheLAW wrote:Yabusele is fine as he is. But there's no way 7% body fast is in the lowest 5-10% of NBA players. Most NBA players are virtually fatless.

Does anyone think Bradley is over 7%? Thomas? Rozier? Gerald Green? Crowder is shredded. Horford is very lean. Surely a large percentage of NBA players are under 7%, and approaching or at the point where whatever body fat they do have is only what you need to be healthy and alive.


You may be right. When I covered NBA games and saw the guys walking around with their shirts off I was struck at how lean the players were, even guys like Pierce and Troy Murphy whom I had regarded as slightly pudgy, by NBA standards.

Perhaps a better way to put it is that Yabs 7 percent body fat is rare for an NBA player weighing as much as he does, or even being in the general vicinity of 276 pounds.
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Post#950 » by Elrod is Back » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:39 pm

24istheLAW wrote:Yabusele is fine as he is. But there's no way 7% body fast is in the lowest 5-10% of NBA players. Most NBA players are virtually fatless.

Does anyone think Bradley is over 7%? Thomas? Rozier? Gerald Green? Crowder is shredded. Horford is very lean. Surely a large percentage of NBA players are under 7%, and approaching or at the point where whatever body fat they do have is only what you need to be healthy and alive.


You may be right. When I covered NBA games and saw the guys walking around with their shirts off I was struck at how lean the players were, even guys like Pierce and Troy Murphy whom I had regarded as slightly pudgy, by NBA standards.

Perhaps a better way to put it is that Yabs 7 percent body fat is rare for an NBA player weighing as much as he does, or even being in the general vicinity of 276 pounds.
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Post#951 » by Higgs Boston » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:48 pm

Elrod is Back wrote:
Higgs Boston wrote:
Elrod is Back wrote:On Celtic Talk today, Guerschon Yabusele conceded to A. Sherrod Blakely that he has 7 percent body fat, not the 6 percent that Austin Ainge reported. He also weighs 276 pounds.

He also likes the Dancing Bear nickname.

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/guerschon-yabusele-joins-celtics-talk-podcast


He has to lose some weight (a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regard to his body, not a scoundrel like sullinger.


This is silly. The dude has 7 percent body fat. That is probably in the lowest 5-10 percent of all NBA players. For him to lose "a lot" of weight would mean dropping a lot of muscle. His strength and size is more genetic than the result of gonzo weightlifting assisted by pharmaceuticals.

He is a freak. Period. A one-in-100,000 body type. Very much like Jim Brown, the legendary NFL running back, who is a good comparison. Brown stood 6-2 and weighed 230 with a 32 inch waistline. Barely any body fat, just like Yabs. He played in an era before weightlifting when linemen weighed in the 240-250 range.

Yabs would probably weigh around 230 if he was 6-2 and not 6-7. He is not overweight. He is not the result of crazy weightlifting assisted by drugs. He is a winner of the genetic lottery. He should no more try to lose "a lot" of weight than Jim Brown should have lost "a lot" of weight.

Oh, by the way, Jim Brown never missed a game in his 9 year NFL career. I think he still weighs around 225 or 230 today, at age 81. He looks like he could still play.

Sullinger is another matter altogether. He can be clumped with Oliver Miller, Hot Plate Williams, Tractor Traylor, Mike Sweetney and several other talented blubber balls who could not control their weight. Those guys, even in their best shape, probably never came close to 15 percent body fat, and usually were much much higher. We have no evidence whatsoever that Yabs has a problem with gaining weight like those dudes. 7 percent body fat tells us that. So does one look at the picture higher up in the thread of a shirtless Yabusele.

The Dancing Bear is just fine the way he is now. What he does not need to do is what most NBA players his age do: build muscle mass and gain weight into their mid-to-late 20s. He has been blessed with extraordinary size and athletic gifts befitting a person who weigh 50 pounds less at the same height. He can just concentrate of developing his skills and quickness and agility. So starve himself down to 240 because Sullinger has an eating disorder? That would be like starving Jim Brown down to 195 for no reason whatsoever.


That was a mistake when I edited the message, the right sentence was "He has to lose some weight (or a lot)", my english is bad, but still I know if you say "some" and "a lot" in the same sentence makes no sense.
And stop with "silly" or other things, because say "the dude has 7 percent body fat. That is probably in the lowest 5-10 percent of all NBA players" is really false. Even in the draft this 7% is average, 4-5% is usually the lowest.
You can't compare a NFL player to basketball player, these two sports are too much different, basketball is much more dangerous than american football if you are overweight

Anyway the only thing I wanted to say is that a player like yabusele needs to be in his best shape, if not, he probably will have some injuries due to his weight, he has to be a good professional.
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Post#952 » by Bostonic33 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Not a MD or in the health field but I think the body needs some percentage of fat to function properly.
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Post#953 » by Elrod is Back » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:16 pm

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He has to lose some weight (a lot), no matter if he is super athletic or not, his legs will not able to bear a weight like this in the long run.
I hope he will be a professional regard to his body, not a scoundrel like sullinger.


This is silly. The dude has 7 percent body fat. That is probably in the lowest 5-10 percent of all NBA players. For him to lose "a lot" of weight would mean dropping a lot of muscle. His strength and size is more genetic than the result of gonzo weightlifting assisted by pharmaceuticals.

He is a freak. Period. A one-in-100,000 body type. Very much like Jim Brown, the legendary NFL running back, who is a good comparison. Brown stood 6-2 and weighed 230 with a 32 inch waistline. Barely any body fat, just like Yabs. He played in an era before weightlifting when linemen weighed in the 240-250 range.

Yabs would probably weigh around 230 if he was 6-2 and not 6-7. He is not overweight. He is not the result of crazy weightlifting assisted by drugs. He is a winner of the genetic lottery. He should no more try to lose "a lot" of weight than Jim Brown should have lost "a lot" of weight.

Oh, by the way, Jim Brown never missed a game in his 9 year NFL career. I think he still weighs around 225 or 230 today, at age 81. He looks like he could still play.

Sullinger is another matter altogether. He can be clumped with Oliver Miller, Hot Plate Williams, Tractor Traylor, Mike Sweetney and several other talented blubber balls who could not control their weight. Those guys, even in their best shape, probably never came close to 15 percent body fat, and usually were much much higher. We have no evidence whatsoever that Yabs has a problem with gaining weight like those dudes. 7 percent body fat tells us that. So does one look at the picture higher up in the thread of a shirtless Yabusele.

The Dancing Bear is just fine the way he is now. What he does not need to do is what most NBA players his age do: build muscle mass and gain weight into their mid-to-late 20s. He has been blessed with extraordinary size and athletic gifts befitting a person who weigh 50 pounds less at the same height. He can just concentrate of developing his skills and quickness and agility. So starve himself down to 240 because Sullinger has an eating disorder? That would be like starving Jim Brown down to 195 for no reason whatsoever.


That was a mistake when I edited the message, the right sentence was "He has to lose some weight (or a lot)", my english is bad, but still I know if you say "some" and "a lot" in the same sentence makes no sense.
And stop with "silly" or other things, because say "the dude has 7 percent body fat. That is probably in the lowest 5-10 percent of all NBA players" is really false. Even in the draft this 7% is average, 4-5% is usually the lowest.
You can't compare a NFL player to basketball player, these two sports are too much different, basketball is much more dangerous than american football if you are overweight

Anyway the only thing I wanted to say is that a player like yabusele needs to be in his best shape, if not, he probably will have some injuries due to his weight, he has to be a good professional.


fair enough. My point is that every indication is that Yabs is in great shape at 276 pounds, and it comes naturally to him. He is anything but overweight by any possible understanding of the term. The Jim Brown comparison is apropos on exactly that point. By traditional criteria, just looking at a person's height and weight on some medical school chart, Jim Brown--who was also the greatest lacrosse player in the United States in the 1950s--was overweight as a running back packing 230 pounds on a 6-2 frame. He would be considered obese on paper for a lacrosse player at that time if not today. But if you actually saw Jim Brown and watched him it was obvious he was playing at a natural weight and that he was an athletic freak. (He had sprinter speed and tremendous coordination and agility.) Exactly the same situation with the Dancing Bear, though it is highly unlikely he will dominate basketball the way Jim Brown dominated two sports. (If he does, fellow Cs fans, prepare for the best decade of your lives.) No reason at all to put Yabs on some idiotic diet to lose muscle. He is not a runway model. And he is no more at risk of going full-Sullinger on us than Tyler Zeller or Al Horford is.
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Post#954 » by Leprechaun18 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:10 pm

I gotta tell ya the I am more excited about Ante Zizic than the dancing bear.
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Post#955 » by SMTBSI » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:00 pm

24istheLAW wrote:Yabusele is fine as he is. But there's no way 7% body fast is in the lowest 5-10% of NBA players. Most NBA players are virtually fatless.
Bostonic33 wrote:Not a MD or in the health field but I think the body needs some percentage of fat to function properly.

4-6% is what I've heard as the "essential" minimum %age for men. 7% already puts you below most professional athletes.

He may be off about his own %age. But, if so, it's more likely to be higher than lower.
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Post#958 » by Elrod is Back » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:02 pm

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Thanks for posting this. Zizic is an exciting prospect. All signs point toward a productive NBA career.
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Post#959 » by TheOGJabroni » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:34 pm

Now that he has joined the Red Claws, he doesn't lose a year of his rookie contact, does he? Also, any indications of when he will actually play? I'd love to go see him play.
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Post#960 » by Gant » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:40 pm

Doc Rivers was so big on getting back that his teams never got offensive rebounds. Brad Stevens is so big on perimeter shooting from everyone that his teams don't get offensive rebounds.

Zizic gets offensive rebounds. He's really good at it.

Maybe when Brad gets Zizic in the lineup he'll modify the system to fit this guy's strength. Either that or Ante will be hoisting them from deep before Christmas.

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