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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#941 » by Hal14 » Sun Nov 6, 2022 3:35 pm

steefP2 wrote:From the latest Jay King article on the Athletic;


“ Though their offense has been sharp so far, the Celtics must be dreaming about how dangerous they will be once Robert Williams returns. He said he has been “stepping it up” in workouts after returning to on-court work a couple of weeks ago. Williams said he is dunking again, feels good and has not experienced any setbacks. During workouts, he said he can do “really anything” physically.

“They just try to hold me (back from) being a little too explosive sometimes, take my time with it,” Williams said. “But pick-and-rolls, running the court, really doing a lot.”

In one sign of how far he has progressed, Williams joined the Celtics on their road trip instead of staying back in Boston. ”

This is great news!

Originally, we were told it was 8-12 weeks until he'd resume "basketball activities". And 8-12 weeks from his 9/22 surgery would be between 11/17-12/15. So if it was 11/5 and he was already doing "basketball activities" (dunking a basketball and working on pick n rolls are certainly basketball activities" then he must be ahead of schedule..
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#942 » by steefP2 » Sun Nov 6, 2022 3:50 pm

Rob can probably come back mid December but if the Celtics keep winning at a decent clip I wouldn’t expect him to actually return before early to mid January.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#943 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Sun Nov 6, 2022 5:47 pm

Best to keep RW3 on slow rehab and a scheduled return to active duty no sooner than mid-January... Ramping up aggressively while being anything less than 100% healed/recovered from the surgery risks a return to the injury list by the time he'd be needed most well into the postseason.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#944 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 6, 2022 5:59 pm

steefP2 wrote:Rob can probably come back mid December but if the Celtics keep winning at a decent clip I wouldn’t expect him to actually return before early to mid January.

Agreed. -- I mean, we could use him. But at 6-3, we don't absolutely need him now.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#945 » by Joshyjess » Mon Nov 7, 2022 5:07 pm

Until he's 1000000% don't even think of bringing him back!!!! And even then, bring him back SLOWLY!!!! We need Rob in the playoffs much, much more than we need him in the reg. season. Keep him as healthy as possible, with just enough game time to get back into peak performance - then let him go wild in the playoffs.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#946 » by 31to6 » Mon Nov 7, 2022 6:00 pm

Joshyjess wrote:Until he's 1000000% don't even think of bringing him back!!!! And even then, bring him back SLOWLY!!!! We need Rob in the playoffs much, much more than we need him in the reg. season. Keep him as healthy as possible, with just enough game time to get back into peak performance - then let him go wild in the playoffs.
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I get the reference, but to be true to that character I think you need to take the exclamation point knob and turn it all the way down to 'zero'.

As for Rob, he plays a violent style of basketball. I'm sure more time off can help him avoid injuries, but it's a double-edged sword because if he loses any of his otherworldly athleticism he loses quite a bit of value -- and I'm assuming at his young age that his body needs to go go go. But I could be wrong.
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Post#947 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:03 pm

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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#948 » by playa-hater » Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:39 pm

A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#949 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:49 pm

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no news is good news. Good to hear that he's still on track, is progressing well, has continued to do on-court work and hasn't had any set-backs.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#950 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:56 pm

playa-hater wrote:A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.

I agree. Imagine in the 1st and 3rd quarters when teams start going to the bench, we bring in Brogdon and Time Lord. Plus either Grant or White. Jeesh
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#951 » by BK_2020 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:07 pm

playa-hater wrote:A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.

He should play restricted minutes and have a rest day here and there but I don't see what purpose coming off the bench would serve. Whether he starts or comes off the bench, we can limit his minutes.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#952 » by darrendaye » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 pm

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playa-hater wrote:A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.

He should play restricted minutes and have a rest day here and there but I don't see what purpose coming off the bench would serve. Whether he starts or comes off the bench, we can limit his minutes.


Tough to truly determine which is more problematic in terms of lower body wear and tear, but, guess the idea would be to abandon the rover role which requires more space to cover and more hard close-outs vs. more traditional post defender role.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#953 » by Parliament10 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:32 pm

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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#954 » by Hal14 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:46 pm

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He looks kind of sweaty in that pic. Perhaps that means they had him doing some fairly rigorous workout stuff today :)
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Post#955 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:33 am

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It's Sherrod so we might not see Rob play ever again.

I kid. I think this was from an interview with Timelord. Behind a paywall.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#956 » by TatumMVP » Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:27 pm

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It's Sherrod so we might not see Rob play ever again.

I kid. I think this was from an interview with Timelord. Behind a paywall.

https://sherrod.substack.com/p/rob-williams-opens-up-about-his-return?utm_campaign=auto_share
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When Williams underwent successful surgery on September 23 to “remove loose bodies and address swelling" from his left knee, the best-case scenario was that he would be back to playing in eight weeks, or what we like to call Friday of this week against the New Orleans Pelicans.

Williams is being coy about his return to the floor, other than to say that he and the medical staff are continuing to “check off the boxes” for things he needs to do in order to be cleared to play.

But there’s no mistaking the excitement that he’s feeling now, well aware that he’ll be back on the floor sooner rather than later.

“(Wednesday’s workout) felt good, felt great,” Williams told me during our one-on-one interview. “That’s why I’m smiling. We’re checking off all the boxes as I go through this, getting closer to getting back.”

And today was indeed a good day as Williams described his on-court session work being the most game-simulation work he’s done since he began the rehab process.

The time Williams has been sidelined has not had a significant impact on the Celtics’ success, with Boston having extended its winning streak to eight in a row with Wednesday night’s blowout win over the Atlanta Hawks.

But the Celtics know all too well that their chances of getting back to the NBA Finals and emerging with the Larry O’Brien trophy this time is greatly enhanced with a healthy Robert Williams in the lineup.

“Rob is a very important, a big piece to our play last year,” Marcus Smart, the NBA’s Defensive Player of the Year last season, said during a one-on-one interview. “We’re glad he’s taking his time, getting back on the court and taking those baby steps to get back on the court, getting closer, it’s a big improvement and boost for us.”

Williams’ emergence last year was instrumental in Boston’s ascension to the NBA Finals. A late-season injury sidelined him and left his return during the Finals in doubt. But Williams managed to return for most of Boston’s postseason run, playing in 17 of the Celtics' 24 postseason games last season. But it was clear that the All-NBA Defensive First Team big man was not the same, showing clear limitations in his mobility and with that, minimizing the impact he and the Celtics had grown accustomed to him making when on the floor.

That’s why his return after a lengthy layoff to start the season is so important.

The way Williams sees it, he’s used to missing games during the regular season.

This year, the only difference is he’s getting it out of the way at the start rather than in the heat of the season or playoffs.

And while Boston has managed to put together the best record in the East, the team’s overall defense has taken a noticeable hit during his absence.

Boston, which had the league’s best defensive rating last season, has been working its way out of the doldrums of being among the NBA’s bottom 10 in most defensive categories.

I spoke with Jaylen Brown about the importance of having Williams in the lineup.

“Rob takes our game to another level offensively and defensively,” Brown said. “He’s a game-changer out there. It makes us stronger and better.”

And the Celtics will see Williams’ impact back in the lineup on … when are you coming back, Rob?

“Can’t speak too much on that,” Williams told me. “We’re trying to check off these boxes, week by week. All I can do is smile right now.”


This is full interview, nice news.
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Post#957 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:19 pm

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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#958 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:51 pm

playa-hater wrote:A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.

Agreed. Also, I like the spacing/versatility that Al and Grant give us in that starting line up.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka "Timelord" – (Expected Return = Dec-Jan) 

Post#959 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:23 pm

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playa-hater wrote:A little early to consider, but I wonder if it is better served for RW to come off the bench in the regular season to "preserve him" as much as possible for the playoffs.

Agreed. Also, I like the spacing/versatility that Al and Grant give us in that starting line up.


What do we do with Rob moving forward? You shouldn't have to "baby" a 24-year-old season after season because you can't count on them. I get that sometimes it's just bad luck when a player gets hurt. But I suspect Al will be back next season and likely in a bench role. We know that his role will need to be massaged. That's fine. He's 36 and we know what to expect by now. Gallo should be back anyway. But Rob...I'm sorry. I'm not paying a starting big to not play half the year because he's made of glass.

If we bring in a big (Poeltl/Bamba, etc.) at the deadline, it means we can no longer trust Rob, at which point, after the season maybe we move him for someone else. Maybe it's just me but I would like for my starters to be reliable.
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