Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread

[LostInACrowd]

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To answer your Talent Question. There are 9 Teams with a worse record.

I was implying that talent has less to do with current standings and it's more about strength of schedule after 8 or 9 games of an 82 game season.

I believe the Nets are a bottom 4 team talent wise. Probably bottom 2.

The Nets schedule hasn't been that easy. 5 of the 9 teams they played are at .500 or better. Sure, they haven't played any of the top 5 teams. But, if you are a bottom 3 team, it doesn't matter if your playing the top 5 or top 16 because your heavily favored to lose.

[LostInACrowd]

Nets fans posting here after every win is like Celtics fans posting on Nets board after every loss. It shows a lack of class. Even though most of these posts are fine, there's no point of them being here.

There's an obvious conflict of interest here, and timing of these posts reveals the intent behind them. To troll the fanbase.

If you're a Nets fan, be happy that King era is over, enjoy your team but celebrating the fact that you might send 8th instead of 3rd pick is childish. Understandable, but childish.

Please dont lump me in with those who come here to troll. Ive posted in this thread when you had it last year, i posted in the preseason, and ive posted after losses. ive never trolled and have a pretty unbiased opinion and having lived in somerville since '98 and having been a net fan since birth i have a pretty good working knowledge of both clubs.

Also, there were ALOT of celtic trolls on our forum posting in our game threads last year until our mods went 0 tolerance. id suggest your mods employing similar here with those just here trolling. i know the lin fans can be rough they are on our forum as well.

Now you have a SMALL taste of what it's like to be a rational Lin fan by having to defend yourself for what others are writing...

[London2Boston]

Magic and Wolves win. Good ****.

[Prokorov]

Nets fans posting here after every win is like Celtics fans posting on Nets board after every loss. It shows a lack of class. Even though most of these posts are fine, there's no point of them being here.

There's an obvious conflict of interest here, and timing of these posts reveals the intent behind them. To troll the fanbase.

If you're a Nets fan, be happy that King era is over, enjoy your team but celebrating the fact that you might send 8th instead of 3rd pick is childish. Understandable, but childish.

Please dont lump me in with those who come here to troll. Ive posted in this thread when you had it last year, i posted in the preseason, and ive posted after losses. ive never trolled and have a pretty unbiased opinion and having lived in somerville since '98 and having been a net fan since birth i have a pretty good working knowledge of both clubs.

Also, there were ALOT of celtic trolls on our forum posting in our game threads last year until our mods went 0 tolerance. id suggest your mods employing similar here with those just here trolling. i know the lin fans can be rough they are on our forum as well.

Now you have a SMALL taste of what it's like to be a rational Lin fan by having to defend yourself for what others are writing...

Lin fans are the worst. they deserve what they get.

[robbie84]

To answer your Talent Question. There are 9 Teams with a worse record.

I was implying that talent has less to do with current standings and it's more about strength of schedule after 8 or 9 games of an 82 game season.

I believe the Nets are a bottom 4 team talent wise. Probably bottom 2.

The Nets schedule hasn't been that easy. 5 of the 9 teams they played are at .500 or better. Sure, they haven't played any of the top 5 teams. But, if you are a bottom 3 team, it doesn't matter if your playing the top 5 or top 16 because your heavily favored to lose.

The Pacers, Wolves and Suns will not have .500 records by the end of the season. The Pacers might end up something like .45% but the other two teams will be .40% at best. The Pistons are right on the fringe of +/ .500% depending on their injuries.

The Nets are absolutely trash. Their biggest problem is that they will be worse with Jeremy Lin on the floor. They are trying to build a spacing offense built around the 3 point shot whilst trying to develop Lin as a value contract trade asset, and unfortunately his game kills ball movement and their ideal of getting wide open three's. Perhaps he'll change his strategy and dump out more on drives but he loves to put the ball on the floor with blinkers for the basket.

[Patsfan1081]

At the very least the Nets havethemselves a good coach, not easy to get guys like Harris and Hamilton to put up a efficient twenty point night. If they have some of their vets playing decent ball by the trade deadline I would expect them to makes some moves to get some picks/young players to develope.

[Travers]

Please dont lump me in with those who come here to troll. Ive posted in this thread when you had it last year, i posted in the preseason, and ive posted after losses. ive never trolled and have a pretty unbiased opinion and having lived in somerville since '98 and having been a net fan since birth i have a pretty good working knowledge of both clubs.

Also, there were ALOT of celtic trolls on our forum posting in our game threads last year until our mods went 0 tolerance. id suggest your mods employing similar here with those just here trolling. i know the lin fans can be rough they are on our forum as well.

Now you have a SMALL taste of what it's like to be a rational Lin fan by having to defend yourself for what others are writing...

Lin fans are the worst. they deserve what they get.

We all know you are a Lin doubter.

[LostInACrowd]

I was implying that talent has less to do with current standings and it's more about strength of schedule after 8 or 9 games of an 82 game season.

I believe the Nets are a bottom 4 team talent wise. Probably bottom 2.

The Nets schedule hasn't been that easy. 5 of the 9 teams they played are at .500 or better. Sure, they haven't played any of the top 5 teams. But, if you are a bottom 3 team, it doesn't matter if your playing the top 5 or top 16 because your heavily favored to lose.

The Pacers, Wolves and Suns will not have .500 records by the end of the season. The Pacers might end up something like .45% but the other two teams will be .40% at best. The Pistons are right on the fringe of +/ .500% depending on their injuries.

The Nets are absolutely trash. Their biggest problem is that they will be worse with Jeremy Lin on the floor. They are trying to build a spacing offense built around the 3 point shot whilst trying to develop Lin as a value contract trade asset, and unfortunately his game kills ball movement and their ideal of getting wide open three's. Perhaps he'll change his strategy and dump out more on drives but he loves to put the ball on the floor with blinkers for the basket.

My point was that the Nets schedule hasn't been as easy as your making it out to be. Talking about 3 of the 4 teams that the Nets played who are below .500 isn't adding anything to your point of view.

[LostInACrowd]

Please dont lump me in with those who come here to troll. Ive posted in this thread when you had it last year, i posted in the preseason, and ive posted after losses. ive never trolled and have a pretty unbiased opinion and having lived in somerville since '98 and having been a net fan since birth i have a pretty good working knowledge of both clubs.

Also, there were ALOT of celtic trolls on our forum posting in our game threads last year until our mods went 0 tolerance. id suggest your mods employing similar here with those just here trolling. i know the lin fans can be rough they are on our forum as well.

Now you have a SMALL taste of what it's like to be a rational Lin fan by having to defend yourself for what others are writing...

Lin fans are the worst. they deserve what they get.

I'm a Lin fan and I challenge you find any post that I've written that seems crazy or even lacking in basketball knowledge. Your schtick about ALL Lin fans is getting old. If you have a problem with an individual and what they write, then address them. The sad thing is you can't appreciate the irony of your first post.

[LostInACrowd]

Now you have a SMALL taste of what it's like to be a rational Lin fan by having to defend yourself for what others are writing...

Lin fans are the worst. they deserve what they get.

We all know you are a Lin doubter.

What are you talking about. This is the kind of thing that makes being a rational Lin fan difficult.

People should doubt Lin until he proves that he can be a consistently good starter. Prokorov has been positive about how Lin has played this season so you saying this makes so little sense since he is not talking about Lin but about his fans.

[SMTBSI]

Friendly reminder: Two games separate the 3rd-worst and 14th-worst records. It's very, very early.

[Travers]

Lin fans are the worst. they deserve what they get.

We all know you are a Lin doubter.

What are you talking about. This is the kind of thing that makes being a rational Lin fan difficult.

People should doubt Lin until he proves that he can be a consistently good starter. Prokorov has been positive about how Lin has played this season so you saying this makes so little sense since he is not talking about Lin but about his fans.

Even Stephen A Smith says good things about Lin sometimes, but we all know that he don't like Lin deep down his heart.

[DeRoma]

Nets fans - this year's pick could end up being 10th, and next year's pick could end up being 15th.....and if you want to celebrate that as a victory, feel free to do so. It's like entering the 4th quarter down by 35 points, and then making a rally at the end and losing the game by 15 points.

Bottom line: you guys still lost this trade.

I completely disagree. The Nets organization was in dire to make this type of move in order for them to realize that their philosophies in making a successful team is flawed. That's just the reality of human beings. We need to make the mistakes in order for us to stop making lateral moves. I also think you need to tip your hats off towards what the Nets are trying to accomplish to be one of the most dominant team in the league by risking everything. I think it's a much more respectful move than half of the league just trying to be pretenders with their franchise for years. Yet, when they went unsuccessful they completely swallowed their pride and went to a complete 180 in just of a span of a year. So in truth Sean Marks is a franchise changer that the Nets were hoping for and it was a snowball effect of Celtics/Nets trade.

The fact that this team is projected to be horrible for at least a decade and showing life just after one year lost is a complete win for the franchise itself. I mean look at the Sixers and Sac they are both "trusting the process." Yet, their team is just stuck in limbo thinking that they are just a talent away from being great years and no signs of life being successful.

So for me, the trade was actually KG, Pierce, Terry, and Sean Marks(Franchise changer) for Humphries, Wallace, James Young, Jaylen Brown, 2017 and 2018 first rounders (that looks to be around 6th-15th pick). You guys might've won on paper but you gave us gem with Sean Marks that took a huge dent on those "valued" picks.

How do you conclude that you guys are showing life? I'm not being hostile I just don't agree. I mean you're talent is very poor. If you trade Brook, you'll get mid first/late lottery pick but your outlook is Caris Levert, Rondae and...not much? I agree Marks is good pick up but the roster is just horrid.

And your pick this year is more likely to be a top 3 pick than #5 or #6. Which teams have less talent than you guys in the NBA right now? And then if you trade Brook?

If you honestly believe that NBA standing is solely base on talent alone you should educate yourself outside of looking stats alone. This isn't fantasy basketball where you win by picking who puts up stats. There so many variable besides talent. If it was then why the hell isn't the Timberwolves, Sacramento, Sixers, and the Suns winning anything? They are filled with lottery talent, yet nothing ever happens to their team.

Let me ask you another question when was the last time the Spurs picked up lottery talent?

[DeRoma]

I was implying that talent has less to do with current standings and it's more about strength of schedule after 8 or 9 games of an 82 game season.

I believe the Nets are a bottom 4 team talent wise. Probably bottom 2.

The Nets schedule hasn't been that easy. 5 of the 9 teams they played are at .500 or better. Sure, they haven't played any of the top 5 teams. But, if you are a bottom 3 team, it doesn't matter if your playing the top 5 or top 16 because your heavily favored to lose.

The Pacers, Wolves and Suns will not have .500 records by the end of the season. The Pacers might end up something like .45% but the other two teams will be .40% at best. The Pistons are right on the fringe of +/ .500% depending on their injuries.

The Nets are absolutely trash. Their biggest problem is that they will be worse with Jeremy Lin on the floor. They are trying to build a spacing offense built around the 3 point shot whilst trying to develop Lin as a value contract trade asset, and unfortunately his game kills ball movement and their ideal of getting wide open three's. Perhaps he'll change his strategy and dump out more on drives but he loves to put the ball on the floor with blinkers for the basket.

So you think Lin will make them worse? I'm pretty sure you are just baiting. If not, I suggest that you should watch more basketball.

[aim2please]

Can't wait for Nets to lose tonight. I'll head to the Nets' board to discuss respectively about their performance. I think that's cool.

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[Fencer reregistered]

The problem, as always, is that the Nets gain nothing from tanking, while other teams will.

[pasfru]

The problem, as always, is that the Nets gain nothing from tanking, while other teams will.

Kind of, but not always. The problem last year was that they had no heart or proper leadership. I'd say even this year's team is less talented than last year, Lin was a great acquisition but these Nets are so lacking in depth. What they lose in talent, this year's team makes up in heart though. So yes, maybe this year that is a big thing... there is no reason for them to tank. But not always, not last year. They cared as little about winning as the **** 76ers.

[TinmanZBoy]

this thread itself is a little troll-ish anyway... people jabbing each other for fun, don't be too serious... if somehow this thread could be derailed into a Lin thread, that would be hilarious...
seriously though, the Celtics has to wait, to see how Nets do in more games...

[Homerclease]

If they pull this one off against the clips with no lopez and no lin then I will start to worry. As of right now I'm still not concerned in the least. Even last year they had stretches of good play but they couldn't sustain it. I still see these nets as a bottom 3 team although they may have unexpected company down there with the Pelicans and Mavs. My hopes of drafting Giles are still alive and well

[TinmanZBoy]

on the other hand, look at Curry, Thompson, Khwai, Green's draft positions... sometimes it is not about having a higher pick, it is about talent evaluation, draft well... and more importantly, LUCK...
so guys taking this too seriously is a bit laughable