General Boston Sports Thread

[Joshyjess]

Sports can be a fickle mistress. Not too long ago, the Sox won the Series, the Pats were beating everyone, and the C's were still being talked about as one of the best teams in the league. Now, the Pats get demolished, and the C's are playing like a team gunning for the number one lottery pick.
Definitely not one of the best weeks I can remember in the world of sports.

[cloverleaf]

Brady looks foggy, he is looking 41 out there. They're getting to him easily and he's holding on to the ball way too long.

He should have been a hero--passing the baton to Jimmy after last year and saving a little bit of his brain for old age for the sake of his family.

[Captain_Caveman]

Brady looks foggy, he is looking 41 out there. They're getting to him easily and he's holding on to the ball way too long.

He should have been a hero--passing the baton to Jimmy after last year and saving a little bit of his brain for old age for the sake of his family.

That's what I took from last season, too. Brady was clearly all done and should just retire and let some average QB take over.

Pffffft.

[Saint Lazarus]

Brady looks foggy, he is looking 41 out there. They're getting to him easily and he's holding on to the ball way too long.

He should have been a hero--passing the baton to Jimmy after last year and saving a little bit of his brain for old age for the sake of his family.

Fortunately the Pats have a lot of picks this draft, hopefully they draft a QB for the future

[Joshyjess]

The Sox just added another year to Manager Cora's contract. I think they are crazy, I mean, come on, the guy can't even win the manager of the year award, how good can he be?

[colaroaster]

belichick, brady, and gronk want one more before retiring - then josh gets the keys to the team

[BillTheGOAT]

Patriots wont make it to the Super Bowl, sadly.

Not without HFA, only way I see it happening is if the Patriots win out. Chiefs losing to the Rams, and one more game to finish tied with the h2h in favor of the Pats.

Chiefs remaining schedule is @Rams (moved to LA), @Raiders, vs Ravens, vs Chargers, @Seahawks and vs Raiders.

They'll roll over the Raiders twice so they have to lose two games out of Rams, Chargers, Ravens, Seahawks.


Patriots remaining schedule:

BYE
@Jets (another BYE)
vs Vikings
@Dolphins (Pats lost 4 out of last 5 @MIA)
@Steelers (Clinching HFA in the divisional round and maybe AFC CG)
vs Bills
vs Jets

[Joshyjess]

Patriots wont make it to the Super Bowl, sadly.

Not without HFA, only way I see it happening is if the Patriots win out. Chiefs losing to the Rams, and one more game to finish tied with the h2h in favor of the Pats.

Chiefs remaining schedule is @Rams (moved to LA), @Raiders, vs Ravens, vs Chargers, @Seahawks and vs Raiders.

They'll roll over the Raiders twice so they have to lose two games out of Rams, Chargers, Ravens, Seahawks.


Patriots remaining schedule:

BYE
@Jets (another BYE)
vs Vikings
@Dolphins (Pats lost 4 out of last 5 @MIA)
@Steelers (Clinching HFA in the divisional round and maybe AFC CG)
vs Bills
vs Jets

Pats might not get home field, but there's no reason to think that they can't win it all this year. On any given day the Pats are as good as, if not better than any other team out there. During the playoffs, if they play well, than they will win. If they don't, then home field won't really matter.
Remember, the Pats lost 2 SB's to much, much inferior Giants teams. The only thing that really matters is who shows up to play during the playoffs.

[Homerclease]

Patriots wont make it to the Super Bowl, sadly.

Not without HFA, only way I see it happening is if the Patriots win out. Chiefs losing to the Rams, and one more game to finish tied with the h2h in favor of the Pats.

Chiefs remaining schedule is @Rams (moved to LA), @Raiders, vs Ravens, vs Chargers, @Seahawks and vs Raiders.

They'll roll over the Raiders twice so they have to lose two games out of Rams, Chargers, Ravens, Seahawks.


Patriots remaining schedule:

BYE
@Jets (another BYE)
vs Vikings
@Dolphins (Pats lost 4 out of last 5 @MIA)
@Steelers (Clinching HFA in the divisional round and maybe AFC CG)
vs Bills
vs Jets

Pats might not get home field, but there's no reason to think that they can't win it all this year. On any given day the Pats are as good as, if not better than any other team out there. During the playoffs, if they play well, than they will win. If they don't, then home field won't really matter.
Remember, the Pats lost 2 SB's to much, much inferior Giants teams. The only thing that really matters is who shows up to play during the playoffs.

Except those Giants teams weren’t much much inferior.

[Joshyjess]

Patriots wont make it to the Super Bowl, sadly.

Not without HFA, only way I see it happening is if the Patriots win out. Chiefs losing to the Rams, and one more game to finish tied with the h2h in favor of the Pats.

Chiefs remaining schedule is @Rams (moved to LA), @Raiders, vs Ravens, vs Chargers, @Seahawks and vs Raiders.

They'll roll over the Raiders twice so they have to lose two games out of Rams, Chargers, Ravens, Seahawks.


Patriots remaining schedule:

BYE
@Jets (another BYE)
vs Vikings
@Dolphins (Pats lost 4 out of last 5 @MIA)
@Steelers (Clinching HFA in the divisional round and maybe AFC CG)
vs Bills
vs Jets

Pats might not get home field, but there's no reason to think that they can't win it all this year. On any given day the Pats are as good as, if not better than any other team out there. During the playoffs, if they play well, than they will win. If they don't, then home field won't really matter.
Remember, the Pats lost 2 SB's to much, much inferior Giants teams. The only thing that really matters is who shows up to play during the playoffs.

Except those Giants teams weren’t much much inferior.

Those Giant teams were a whole lot more inferior to the those Pats teams than this year's Pats team is to any other team out there. The point is that if the Pats lost to a team like the Giants, than anything is possible. Home Field would be nice, but it really shouldn't matter.

[Joshyjess]

MOOOOOOKKKIIIIEEEEEE!!! Betts wins the AL MVP award!!! Well Deserved!

[Homerclease]

Pats might not get home field, but there's no reason to think that they can't win it all this year. On any given day the Pats are as good as, if not better than any other team out there. During the playoffs, if they play well, than they will win. If they don't, then home field won't really matter.
Remember, the Pats lost 2 SB's to much, much inferior Giants teams. The only thing that really matters is who shows up to play during the playoffs.

Except those Giants teams weren’t much much inferior.

Those Giant teams were a whole lot more inferior to the those Pats teams than this year's Pats team is to any other team out there. The point is that if the Pats lost to a team like the Giants, than anything is possible. Home Field would be nice, but it really shouldn't matter.

In 2007 week 17, the giants held a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and the patriots came back to win a close game.

In 2011 the giants defeated the patriots in the regular season.

To say those giants teams were much much inferior is saltyness and pure homerism

[Joshyjess]

Except those Giants teams weren’t much much inferior.

Those Giant teams were a whole lot more inferior to the those Pats teams than this year's Pats team is to any other team out there. The point is that if the Pats lost to a team like the Giants, than anything is possible. Home Field would be nice, but it really shouldn't matter.

In 2007 week 17, the giants held a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and the patriots came back to win a close game.

In 2011 the giants defeated the patriots in the regular season.

To say those giants teams were much much inferior is saltyness and pure homerism

the 2007 Pats had the chance to go down as the best team ever (only team ever to be playing for a 19 - 0 record). The Giants ended the season well, to squeak into the playoffs (they were the Cinderella team that year), So, yes, there was a huge difference in the two teams (homerism aside). Just because the Giants led during a regular season game doesn't represent a whole season. A lot of good/great teams trail / lose to bad teams during the regular season.
Anyway, I'm not going to keep arguing about this (way too subjective), but I'll go back to my point, that any team can win on any given day (which is why I like the NBA, MLB, NHL playoff system a lot better, but that's another thread). Would home field be nice? Sure. If they don't get it does it mean that they can't win? Not at all.

[Homerclease]

Those Giant teams were a whole lot more inferior to the those Pats teams than this year's Pats team is to any other team out there. The point is that if the Pats lost to a team like the Giants, than anything is possible. Home Field would be nice, but it really shouldn't matter.

In 2007 week 17, the giants held a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and the patriots came back to win a close game.

In 2011 the giants defeated the patriots in the regular season.

To say those giants teams were much much inferior is saltyness and pure homerism

the 2007 Pats had the chance to go down as the best team ever (only team ever to be playing for a 19 - 0 record). The Giants ended the season well, to squeak into the playoffs (they were the Cinderella team that year), So, yes, there was a huge difference in the two teams (homerism aside). Just because the Giants led during a regular season game doesn't represent a whole season. A lot of good/great teams trail / lose to bad teams during the regular season.
Anyway, I'm not going to keep arguing about this (way too subjective), but I'll go back to my point, that any team can win on any given day (which is why I like the NBA, MLB, NHL playoff system a lot better, but that's another thread). Would home field be nice? Sure. If they don't get it does it mean that they can't win? Not at all.

So they almost lost a hard fought game in the regular season, got beat in the title game and somehow they were much much better? Ok.

[threrf23]

Sox resigned Stephen Pearce. 1 year 6.25 mil.

[BillTheGOAT]

Chiefs releasing Hunt will make things interesting for the top seed of the AFC. They just lost a combined 1200 yd player, their run game will suffer.

Patriots need to beat the rest of the teams and Chiefs only losing one more for the Pats to get HFA. They just cant win against quality teams on the road this year, HFA would be huge.

[Captain_Caveman]

Thread not aging well.

Again.

[Captain_Caveman]

Chiefs releasing Hunt will make things interesting for the top seed of the AFC. They just lost a combined 1200 yd player, their run game will suffer.

Patriots need to beat the rest of the teams and Chiefs only losing one more for the Pats to get HFA. They just cant win against quality teams on the road this year, HFA would be huge.

You don't win a Super Bowl without beating good teams.

Not afraid to play anyone, anywhere. Especially not a team coached by ANDY REID, that we already beat this year.

Chiefs are good, but come on. We have Belichick and Brady. We are the one who knocks.

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[soxfan2003]

Except those Giants teams weren’t much much inferior.

Those Giant teams were a whole lot more inferior to the those Pats teams than this year's Pats team is to any other team out there. The point is that if the Pats lost to a team like the Giants, than anything is possible. Home Field would be nice, but it really shouldn't matter.

In 2007 week 17, the giants held a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and the patriots came back to win a close game.

In 2011 the giants defeated the patriots in the regular season.

To say those giants teams were much much inferior is saltyness and pure homerism

1 and done nature of football allows inferior teams to win more often than most fans admit. And a few plays can turn a chance at a huge upset win into a blowout loss.

2011 Giants were a 9-7 regular season team. "The 2011 Giants were the first team in NFL history to reach the Super Bowl with a negative point differential (minus-6, 394 points scored, 400 points allowed)." I suspect they had some regular season injuries like every other team so to be fair entering post season they may have been better than those dismal stats would indicate. Just like the 2007 team, they did match up well against the Patriots in Super Bowl.

But healthy Patriots squad in a must win game like Super Bowl, I think takes them 85 out of 100 times. Given credit to Giants for rising to occasion but Patriots with Gronk severely hobbled were basically playing without arguably the best 2 way tight end in NFL history having his best season. Yes, Gronk was young then but he had 1300+ yards that regular season and 17 touchdowns and forced teams to double him.

Frankly I remember saying before that game..... Healthy Gronk --> Patriots win.
Injured Gronk that can't move well -- Patriots could easily lose without it being upset at all.

Very early in the game, it was obvious that his ankle injury made in impossible for him to cut well. Complete shell of himself that game as a wide out on pass plays. It didn't take a football coaching genius to realize it so Giants knew it early on and it impacts everything else. Gronk has declined since back then and if he actually had similar injury in this post season, I suspect BB might bench him for the entire game and have him inactive.

2007 Patriots were significantly superior to Giants but Giants matched up well. And more importantly in Super Bowl, Brady really was playing with a bad ankle. I am not saying it impacted his throws that much since I don't think it did but I do think it impacted Patriots game planning..... Brady obviously not a mobile qb and never was but healthy he scrambles 3 or 4 times in a game like that if Giants don't change tactics. And it just changes complexion of game. Bum ankle from my vantage point had Patriots going into the game with too much of a home run game plan which played into Giants hands and gave an inferior team a chance to stay in it. BB pretty much said he was out coached in that one and I think he meant it.

This all being said, I am a Patriots fan and not a homer.... If Seattle had been fully healthy....they probably beat Patriots in the Super Bowl more often than not without having to get lucky for it to happen. Seattle if healthy probably better team than fully healthy Patriots squad but Pats with quick receivers matched up well against Seattle's style of play of defense. And then helped by injuries.

[BillTheGOAT]

Chiefs releasing Hunt will make things interesting for the top seed of the AFC. They just lost a combined 1200 yd player, their run game will suffer.

Patriots need to beat the rest of the teams and Chiefs only losing one more for the Pats to get HFA. They just cant win against quality teams on the road this year, HFA would be huge.

You don't win a Super Bowl without beating good teams.

Not afraid to play anyone, anywhere. Especially not a team coached by ANDY REID, that we already beat this year.

Chiefs are good, but come on. We have Belichick and Brady. We are the one who knocks.

Watch on YouTube

We’re not winning at arrowhead stadium. We’ll win the divisional round but we’re going to get stopped by the Chiefs if we have to go to their building.

However, one positive thing after week 13 is Colin Cowherd has us at number 2 on his power rankings, and thats only because he thinks our schedule is easy and that the Chiefs will stumble down the stretch, they’re not the same team without Hunt. Last 2 weeks he had the Patriots at 6 and 5 respectively.

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