Jayson Tatum Thread

[Fierce1]

Jayson Tatum is tougher than he looks.

Minutes restriction for a while.
No back to back games, that's for sure.

But he'll go all out in the playoffs.

[djFan71]

Jayson Tatum is tougher than he looks.

Minutes restriction for a while.
No back to back games, that's for sure.

But he'll go all out in the playoffs.

That’s the problem

[Parliament10]

Jayson Tatum is tougher than he looks.

Minutes restriction for a while.
No back to back games, that's for sure.

But he'll go all out in the playoffs.

That’s the problem

You think it would be too early, to exert himself in the Playoffs? -- He has said all along, that he wouldn't come back until he's 100%.
Which of course, is impossible. Being that it will take him at least awhile to get up to NBA Speed, after he does come back.

However, that whole early procedure and his rehab, seems to be way ahead of schedule; compared to previous injuries, of other players.

[ryan in Maine]

Tatum is biased lol.

[Parliament10]

Tatum is biased lol.

I think that he's the most informed person, on his ability?
He's the one who has to do the work.

[ryan in Maine]

Tatum is biased lol.

I think that he's the most informed person, on his ability?
He's the one who has to do the work.

That's a kind way of saying Tatum is biased lol. I think it's debatable whether a player is the best judge of their return date, especially a guy like Tatum who simply does not want to sit for anything lol. There's a real risk of returning when he feels 100% vs when he is 100%, and by my money, the only way to really be sure is to take the entire season off for rehab and reconditioning.

It's fair to say Tatum knows his body better than the staff, but that risk of a false positive scares me. You can get drunk on your own ability at Tatum's level.

[djFan71]

Jayson Tatum is tougher than he looks.

Minutes restriction for a while.
No back to back games, that's for sure.

But he'll go all out in the playoffs.

That’s the problem

You think it would be too early, to exert himself in the Playoffs? -- He has said all along, that he wouldn't come back until he's 100%.
Which of course, is impossible. Being that it will take him at least awhile to get up to NBA Speed, after he does come back.

However, that whole early procedure and his rehab, seems to be way ahead of schedule; compared to previous injuries, of other players.

Playoffs are just a different level of load on the body, imo. I’m sure when he’s 100%, the Achilles and everything will feel great. And he’ll ramp up, etc. Maybe he’ll be fine, but it feels a lot riskier to do even a single round then it is to play 2 months of late season ball.

[Fierce1]

Tatum will most likely return after All-Star break.

So that's around late February.

Plenty of time as he has the whole of March and half of April to get up to speed.

With the way JB is playing now, there really will not be a lot of pressure put on Tatum.
Tatum can be 1b to JB's 1a this season.
And with minutes restriction early on and no back to back games, JT will be fine heading into the playoffs.

[bucknersrevenge]

Tatum is biased lol.

I think that he's the most informed person, on his ability?
He's the one who has to do the work.

That's a kind way of saying Tatum is biased lol. I think it's debatable whether a player is the best judge of their return date, especially a guy like Tatum who simply does not want to sit for anything lol. There's a real risk of returning when he feels 100% vs when he is 100%, and by my money, the only way to really be sure is to take the entire season off for rehab and reconditioning.

It's fair to say Tatum knows his body better than the staff, but that risk of a false positive scares me. You can get drunk on your own ability at Tatum's level.

That's why he will consider and get input from the trainer, his family, the coach, medical staff and training staff, independent physicians likely, Brad, and the front office. But ultimately the decision is his. Sure Tatum is driven to get back to 100% as soon as possible to play again. But other than fear, is there any actual evidence that suggests that he will put his longterm health at risk? This "bias" is really just confidence and belief in himself. And I know we're not saying that we wouldn't want that to be a part of his makeup here right?

[djFan71]

I think that he's the most informed person, on his ability?
He's the one who has to do the work.

That's a kind way of saying Tatum is biased lol. I think it's debatable whether a player is the best judge of their return date, especially a guy like Tatum who simply does not want to sit for anything lol. There's a real risk of returning when he feels 100% vs when he is 100%, and by my money, the only way to really be sure is to take the entire season off for rehab and reconditioning.

It's fair to say Tatum knows his body better than the staff, but that risk of a false positive scares me. You can get drunk on your own ability at Tatum's level.

That's why he will consider and get input from the trainer, his family, the coach, medical staff and training staff, independent physicians likely, Brad, and the front office. But ultimately the decision is his. Sure Tatum is driven to get back to 100% as soon as possible to play again. But other than fear, is there any actual evidence that suggests that he will put his longterm health at risk? This "bias" is really just confidence and belief in himself. And I know we're not saying that we wouldn't want that to be a part of his makeup here right?

Totally fear based on my part, lol. If he could just play some games in March, April, that would be fine. I’m just, probably irrationally, worried about the playoffs. That ORL series last year was rough. JT would be fresh which would help, but I don’t really see an upside to him playing a round or 2. I guess experience for the young guys, get over some the mental aspects, etc. The downside of a setback just looms larger.

[bucknersrevenge]

That's a kind way of saying Tatum is biased lol. I think it's debatable whether a player is the best judge of their return date, especially a guy like Tatum who simply does not want to sit for anything lol. There's a real risk of returning when he feels 100% vs when he is 100%, and by my money, the only way to really be sure is to take the entire season off for rehab and reconditioning.

It's fair to say Tatum knows his body better than the staff, but that risk of a false positive scares me. You can get drunk on your own ability at Tatum's level.

That's why he will consider and get input from the trainer, his family, the coach, medical staff and training staff, independent physicians likely, Brad, and the front office. But ultimately the decision is his. Sure Tatum is driven to get back to 100% as soon as possible to play again. But other than fear, is there any actual evidence that suggests that he will put his longterm health at risk? This "bias" is really just confidence and belief in himself. And I know we're not saying that we wouldn't want that to be a part of his makeup here right?

Totally fear based on my part, lol. If he could just play some games in March, April, that would be fine. I’m just, probably irrationally, worried about the playoffs. That ORL series last year was rough. JT would be fresh which would help, but I don’t really see an upside to him playing a round or 2. I guess experience for the young guys, get over some the mental aspects, etc. The downside of a setback just looms larger.

Not gonna pretend that I don't get your fears because I do. There's the potential for just as much bad to come as there is good. And there is, of course, the argument of whether we should even be competing this year. I don't get into the practicality of it much because, to my understanding, we have just never been an organization that does that.

[djFan71]

That's why he will consider and get input from the trainer, his family, the coach, medical staff and training staff, independent physicians likely, Brad, and the front office. But ultimately the decision is his. Sure Tatum is driven to get back to 100% as soon as possible to play again. But other than fear, is there any actual evidence that suggests that he will put his longterm health at risk? This "bias" is really just confidence and belief in himself. And I know we're not saying that we wouldn't want that to be a part of his makeup here right?

Totally fear based on my part, lol. If he could just play some games in March, April, that would be fine. I’m just, probably irrationally, worried about the playoffs. That ORL series last year was rough. JT would be fresh which would help, but I don’t really see an upside to him playing a round or 2. I guess experience for the young guys, get over some the mental aspects, etc. The downside of a setback just looms larger.

Not gonna pretend that I don't get your fears because I do. There's the potential for just as much bad to come as there is good. And there is, of course, the argument of whether we should even be competing this year. I don't get into the practicality of it much because, to my understanding, we have just never been an organization that does that.

I don’t have an answer even. I’m pro winning games, and having JT come back. Just can’t reconcile the easy mar/April games with playoffs. If he comes back we probably win a play in game. Which I’m leery of. But having him sit when he’s healthy doesn’t seem right either.

It’s not like the org/jt haven’t thought all this and know how to be careful, so I’ll just assume they’ll do whatever is best for him long term. Doesn’t mean I can’t fret about it.

[ryan in Maine]

Fear should be enough imo lol. But it's not an irrational fear. Let's keep in mind this would be unprecedented in NBA history. It's not like I'm afraid of a routine recovery and timeline. Tatum's achilles repair practically started on the ride to the hospital. I don't care about this specific season enough to risk Tatum losing another one. Considering one of the leading risk factors for Achilles ruptures is overuse, I'd like to define overuse very broadly for the sake of the franchise. Making your season debut in a pressure cooker like a playoff run is overuse imo. Remember, even in the feel good scenario, if we come out of the east it's probably to play OKC.

Honestly I'm a little concerned that he's being pushed as a first of his kind recovery case by his surgeon for bragging rights. As a fan my instinct is to protect the franchise vs the risky feel good storyline.

Remember life before Tatum? Fear should be enough. I'd call it a healthy fear lol.

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I hope he adds that foul line pull up to his game and actually uses it.

[bisme37]

People Magazine fluff article about Tatum and Deuce. JT says he's playing at least 10 more years so they can play together when Deuce gets to the NBA.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/jayson-tatum-claims-easily-stay-224443133.html

[brackdan70]

Deuce > Bronny already.

[brackdan70]

Nearly 7 months in.
The thing is likely healed…now it’s a matter of regaining strength, flexibility, confidence, for high impact.
I would guess he might be ready for full on on court activity by early March, maybe games by early April.
Start off with a Hauser imitation and gradually transition to higher usage .
Idk…part of hopes he waits until next season though.

[cloverleaf]

Nearly 7 months in.
The thing is likely healed…now it’s a matter of regaining strength, flexibility, confidence, for high impact.
I would guess he might be ready for full on on court activity by early March, maybe games by early April.
Start off with a Hauser imitation and gradually transition to higher usage .
Idk…part of hopes he waits until next season though.

I don't see that. I think he's playing his full game, if a bit rusty, by April.

[Fierce1]

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