Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

brackdan70 · Post #981 » by **brackdan70** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:43 pm

165bows wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/412813147641094144[/tweet]

That makes a deal a bit harder than I thought. I was under the impression they had $500k or so.

Yep they need to send away more Salary than they receive. I think it is just under 500 K though, but different sites have different total salaries for the Cs. 500k is not much cushion either. Ainge will want get more space under the tax with any moves he makes. If its a larger deal like Asik for instance my guess is he would hope to give send away at least 2 million in total salary.

Hoops Hype appears to round up a couple Salaries which is why it is off. Hoopsworld has the Cs at 71.219 million which also matches Salaries reported on ESPN vs Hoopshype at 71.631. My observation has been that Hoopshype is less accurate. i am not sure which is right though.

15th overall · Post #982 » by **15th overall** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:50 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/412819608488267776[/tweet]

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #983 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:58 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
165bows wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/412813147641094144[/tweet]

That makes a deal a bit harder than I thought. I was under the impression they had $500k or so.

Yep they need to send away more Salary than they receive. I think it is just under 500 K though, but different sites have different total salaries for the Cs. 500k is not much cushion either. Ainge will want get more space under the tax with any moves he makes. If its a larger deal like Asik for instance my guess is he would hope to give send away at least 2 million in total salary.

Hoops Hype appears to round up a couple Salaries which is why it is off. Hoopsworld has the Cs at 71.219 million which also matches Salaries reported on ESPN vs Hoopshype at 71.631. My observation has been that Hoopshype is less accurate. i am not sure which is right though.

This guy is a fraud.

gocelts · Post #984 » by **gocelts** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:06 pm

Interesting....we had a young defensive center who wanted to be overpaid and traded him for Green. During that time, we never aquired another long term solution at center...and now we contempating trading Green..for another defensive center that would like to be overpaid...

Post #985 » by **165bows** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:07 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
165bows wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/412813147641094144[/tweet]

That makes a deal a bit harder than I thought. I was under the impression they had $500k or so.

Yep they need to send away more Salary than they receive. I think it is just under 500 K though, but different sites have different total salaries for the Cs. 500k is not much cushion either. Ainge will want get more space under the tax with any moves he makes. If its a larger deal like Asik for instance my guess is he would hope to give send away at least 2 million in total salary.

Hoops Hype appears to round up a couple Salaries which is why it is off. Hoopsworld has the Cs at 71.219 million which also matches Salaries reported on ESPN vs Hoopshype at 71.631. My observation has been that Hoopshype is less accurate. i am not sure which is right though.

This guy is a fraud.

Any insight on the C's being in on this potential MKG availability? I'm not into the idea of trading Green for a big or some future asset and just wandering into the future with no solution at the 'quick forward' spot.

But if MKG were coming back that could be a different story.

jmr07019 · Post #986 » by **jmr07019** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:13 pm

ChessYogi wrote:My instinct strongly says...
Boston sends: Gerald Wallace, Brandon Bass, Jordan Crawford
Boston receives: Ben Gordon, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Houston sends: Omer Asik
Houston receives: Brandon Bass, Jordan Crawford

Charlotte sends: Ben Gordon, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Charlotte receives: Gerald Wallace, Omer Asik

That would be an epic heist by Danny. Doubt the Cats would do it.

BeanTownBrawler · Post #987 » by **BeanTownBrawler** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:17 pm

No way Ainge sends Green anywhere. Green is his boy. He's young, athletic, good shooter, very talented. We will do everything we can to get Asik for something involving Bass. If can't get a heist we don't do a deal. But we might be in a position to because Houston is looking to contend and Asik is demanding a trade, so they need to get something of value.

Banks2Pierce · Post #988 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:18 pm

gocelts wrote:interesting....we had a center who wanted to be overpaid and traded him for Green....during that time, we never aquired another long term solution at center...and now we contempating trading Green....for another Center that would like to be overpaid...brilliant.

I see your point, but having a guy under team control for 1.5 years is a bit different than the 4-5 years and >$40m Perk would've asked for and gotten on the open market. I also don't think Perkins ever sniffed the rebounding levels that Asik operates at.

BeanTownBrawler · Post #989 » by **BeanTownBrawler** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:19 pm

Anyway, moving ahead, a lineup of

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sullinger
Asik

is pretty dirty. That is a tough minded team that would put up a fight against anyone in the league

15th overall · Post #990 » by **15th overall** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:21 pm

Good call, 165bows. From Chad Ford on insider:

Charlotte got its first solid win of the season against Golden State last Monday and is on target to reach its goal of making the playoffs. And I don't think the Bobcats' aim is going to change.

From what I can gather, all of the Bobcats' phone calls are about making this team better now. I'm even hearing rumblings that Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will be on the table when he returns from injury.

Rondo/Avery/MKG/Sully/Asik

That's s a potentially historic starting 5 on the defensive end.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #991 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:24 pm

Where's the MKG rumor coming from?

Fencer reregistered · Post #992 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:26 pm

I don't think Chicago is dumb enough to trade Noah. Few teams in the league are.

BeanTownBrawler · Post #993 » by **BeanTownBrawler** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:28 pm

I think Jeff Green is better than Gilchrist

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #994 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:33 pm

Danny has been and always will be all over MKG. He was the first on Danny's list of "legal tampering" 30 minute interviews that they do pre-draft.

I haven't heard anything, but I hope we snag him.

15th overall · Post #995 » by **15th overall** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:34 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Where's the MKG rumor coming from?

Chad Ford from insider:

Charlotte got its first solid win of the season against Golden State last Monday and is on target to reach its goal of making the playoffs. And I don't think the Bobcats' aim is going to change.

From what I can gather, all of the Bobcats' phone calls are about making this team better now. I'm even hearing rumblings that Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will be on the table when he returns from injury.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... big-reveal

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #996 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:35 pm

BeanTownBrawler wrote:I think Jeff Green is better than Gilchrist

The idea would be to keep green, and use mkg and green together....or as a backup once we find a suitor for wallace

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #997 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:37 pm

Bass would actually work excellent on that team...kemba could use someone to dump it down for a midrange. All Jeff and bass would work well.

24istheLAW · Post #998 » by **24istheLAW** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:54 pm

15th overall wrote:Good call, 165bows. From Chad Ford on insider:
Charlotte got its first solid win of the season against Golden State last Monday and is on target to reach its goal of making the playoffs. And I don't think the Bobcats' aim is going to change.

From what I can gather, all of the Bobcats' phone calls are about making this team better now. I'm even hearing rumblings that Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will be on the table when he returns from injury.

Rondo/Avery/MKG/Sully/Asik That's s a potentially historic starting 5 on the defensive end.

Its also a potentially historic starting 5 on the offensive end, and for the wrong reasons. :wink:

I mean Bradley would be the best shooter in that lineup for goodness' sake.

15th overall · Post #999 » by **15th overall** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:55 pm

Very true. They'd be fun as hell to watch though.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1000 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:58 pm

24istheLAW wrote:
15th overall wrote:Good call, 165bows. From Chad Ford on insider:
Charlotte got its first solid win of the season against Golden State last Monday and is on target to reach its goal of making the playoffs. And I don't think the Bobcats' aim is going to change.

From what I can gather, all of the Bobcats' phone calls are about making this team better now. I'm even hearing rumblings that Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will be on the table when he returns from injury.

Rondo/Avery/MKG/Sully/Asik That's s a potentially historic starting 5 on the defensive end.

Its also a potentially historic starting 5 on the offensive end, and for the wrong reasons.

I mean Bradley would be the best shooter in that lineup for goodness' sake.

But a very is Michael Jordan illegitimate child, so I would give him 30 shots a game, just based on that virtue alone.