Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[Bill Lumbergh]

As strange as it may seem for divisional rivals to trade with one another, there is a precedent among all parties. Never before as a 3-way, though!

What are your thoughts on this deal?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7511757

Boston: Al Horford and Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons and Joe Harris (the Celtics get a playmaker and a shooter to support Jayson)

Brooklyn: Joe Harris and Jevon Carter for Al Horford and Danny Green (the Nets get tough veterans who can defend and provide spacing for the Big 3)

Philadelphia: Ben Simmons and Danny Green for Jaylen Brown and Jevon Carter (the Sixers get an All-Star wing to complement Joel, and slide under the luxury tax)

We can quibble about picks to balance value, but what do you think of the framework?

Taking off the homer hat for a second, I'd want some minor sweetener from Philly added, like say, Springer, or Isaiah Joe, but I'd have to say, it seems sort of... fair. At the very least intriguing. We know that Boston management won't do this, but good effort on your part. It's one of the few proposals that I've seen around here that doesn't seem laughably in our favor.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

We need two players who can stand in the corners and shoots 3s at a good percentage for 20 minutes a game each.

[Curmudgeon]

We need two players who can stand in the corners and shoots 3s at a good percentage for 20 minutes a game each.

You mean Tatum and Brown can't do that?

[playa-hater]

As strange as it may seem for divisional rivals to trade with one another, there is a precedent among all parties. Never before as a 3-way, though!

What are your thoughts on this deal?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7511757

Boston: Al Horford and Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons and Joe Harris (the Celtics get a playmaker and a shooter to support Jayson)

Brooklyn: Joe Harris and Jevon Carter for Al Horford and Danny Green (the Nets get tough veterans who can defend and provide spacing for the Big 3)

Philadelphia: Ben Simmons and Danny Green for Jaylen Brown and Jevon Carter (the Sixers get an All-Star wing to complement Joel, and slide under the luxury tax)

We can quibble about picks to balance value, but what do you think of the framework?

I think it is all reasonable TBH.

[GoCeltics123]

"Scotto: The Boston Celtics have expressed interest in re-acquiring forward Jeff Green, league sources told HoopsHype. Green was coached by Brad Stevens in Boston. I’ve also heard former lottery pick Aaron Nesmith and guard Dennis Schroeder are also available in Boston. They’ve made several calls doing due diligence, including to Phoenix regarding Jalen Smith’s availability. "

[Larry_Russell]

"Scotto: The Boston Celtics have expressed interest in re-acquiring forward Jeff Green, league sources told HoopsHype. Green was coached by Brad Stevens in Boston. I’ve also heard former lottery pick Aaron Nesmith and guard Dennis Schroeder are also available in Boston. They’ve made several calls doing due diligence, including to Phoenix regarding Jalen Smith’s availability. "

Honestly, If they can get Jalen Smith and convince him to resign here with the 4.7 million we would be able to sign him with he would be an obvious trade to make.

Schroder for Smith and a 2nd

Then we can send out Al horford for a shooter and not lose his supposed spacing at the backup center spot.

Jeff Green only makes sense if we move Al as well, imo.

[ddb]

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Regardless of the C's interest in Beal, the Wiz would be incredibly stupid to pay him this much. He's going to be 29 next year, giving him $47 mil AAV for 5 years is kinda lunacy, especially when Kuzma has arguably been better than him this year. But it's the Wizards, so they'll probably still offer him it

They have done it before. See John Wall

You would think they learned their lesson with John Wall's contract....Beal is better, I'll give him that, but 47 million for any player that's not a top 10 is risky business. It's risky business for anyone really....

[ddb]

We need two players who can stand in the corners and shoots 3s at a good percentage for 20 minutes a game each.

I feel like you and me have been preaching this for YEARS.

[MagicBagley18]

It’s the wizards....the owner has been against rebuilding and tanking for years. See his philosophy with the capitals and then just look at his history with the wiz.

Should they re-sign him? No. Absolutely not. Will they? Absolutely. If he was available they’d be making the rounds now - he’s not. He won’t be. Only chance is via a sign and trade in the summer.

As far as horford deals proposed here I’m pretty sure shams said he’s one of the guys we don’t wanna trade.

[ddb]

"Scotto: The Boston Celtics have expressed interest in re-acquiring forward Jeff Green, league sources told HoopsHype. Green was coached by Brad Stevens in Boston. I’ve also heard former lottery pick Aaron Nesmith and guard Dennis Schroeder are also available in Boston. They’ve made several calls doing due diligence, including to Phoenix regarding Jalen Smith’s availability. "

O great....trick-or-treat Jeff Green again.

He's actually developed into a pretty solid role player....I'm not sure if he's changed though....I think the game has changed to where he's sorta become the modern prototypical 4...so it's worked out for Green & his style of play, and has extended his career.

I would imagine if Jeff Green is dealt it's to a true contender though...not sure why Boston/Denver are looking to deal together??? Not putting too much stock in this...Jalen Smith would make way more sense for Boston. Phoenix is going for it....so I'm sure they'd be willing to move Smith if it meant they get back a solid veteran player in return.....But I'm not sure who that player from Boston would be? Al Horford would make sense for them but Phoenix doesn't have the contracts to match salary. Boston is going to trade Smart to Phoenix for Jalen Smith, unless Phoenix included more. Same with Josh Richardson, although Phoenix already has Richardson type players on their roster. So I'm just not sure what a deal looks like between Boston & Phoenix.

[Larry_Russell]

"Scotto: The Boston Celtics have expressed interest in re-acquiring forward Jeff Green, league sources told HoopsHype. Green was coached by Brad Stevens in Boston. I’ve also heard former lottery pick Aaron Nesmith and guard Dennis Schroeder are also available in Boston. They’ve made several calls doing due diligence, including to Phoenix regarding Jalen Smith’s availability. "

O great....trick-or-treat Jeff Green again.

He's actually developed into a pretty solid role player....I'm not sure if he's changed though....I think the game has changed to where he's sorta become the modern prototypical 4...so it's worked out for Green & his style of play, and has extended his career.

I would imagine if Jeff Green is dealt it's to a true contender though...not sure why Boston/Denver are looking to deal together??? Not putting too much stock in this...Jalen Smith would make way more sense for Boston. Phoenix is going for it....so I'm sure they'd be willing to move Smith if it meant they get back a solid veteran player in return.....But I'm not sure who that player from Boston would be? Al Horford would make sense for them but Phoenix doesn't have the contracts to match salary. Boston is going to trade Smart to Phoenix for Jalen Smith, unless Phoenix included more. Same with Josh Richardson, although Phoenix already has Richardson type players on their roster. So I'm just not sure what a deal looks like between Boston & Phoenix.

It would b Schroder for Smith

[ddb]

It’s the wizards....the owner has been against rebuilding and tanking for years. See his philosophy with the capitals and then just look at his history with the wiz.

Should they re-sign him? No. Absolutely not. Will they? Absolutely. If he was available they’d be making the rounds now - he’s not. He won’t be. Only chance is via a sign and trade in the summer.

As far as horford deals proposed here I’m pretty sure shams said he’s one of the guys we don’t wanna trade.

All true about Ted Leonsis....However, major difference between Wizards & Caps. Caps have had one of the greatest hockey players of all-time on their roster for many years...they've also had one of the most underrated players of all-time on their roster as well. They've been competitive every single year, they've won a cup, and they continue to be a contender albeit a long-shot.... Wizards on the other hand peaked during the Beal & healthy Wall years and never made it past the 2nd round. They've also recently gave out a monster contract to a Tier2 star (I've always thought John Wall was overrated along with Westbrook), and it really screwed them....I would think that they may be aggressive trying to add talent at the deadline and making a run, but when it doesn't work out, they may look to S&T Beal and start over.....there are some really good players coming out in the draft next year and the year after....
I could be wrong, but early indications are that Beal is positioning himself to give em the ole, "I'd like a fresh start" chat sooner rather than later.

[ddb]

O great....trick-or-treat Jeff Green again.

He's actually developed into a pretty solid role player....I'm not sure if he's changed though....I think the game has changed to where he's sorta become the modern prototypical 4...so it's worked out for Green & his style of play, and has extended his career.

I would imagine if Jeff Green is dealt it's to a true contender though...not sure why Boston/Denver are looking to deal together??? Not putting too much stock in this...Jalen Smith would make way more sense for Boston. Phoenix is going for it....so I'm sure they'd be willing to move Smith if it meant they get back a solid veteran player in return.....But I'm not sure who that player from Boston would be? Al Horford would make sense for them but Phoenix doesn't have the contracts to match salary. Boston is going to trade Smart to Phoenix for Jalen Smith, unless Phoenix included more. Same with Josh Richardson, although Phoenix already has Richardson type players on their roster. So I'm just not sure what a deal looks like between Boston & Phoenix.

It would b Schroder for Smith

I'm not sure they would want Schroder? They have Chris Paul & Cam Payne...Smith is giving them quality minutes right now. If they replace Smith I would imagine they are looking for a low risk, veteran guy.....the PJ Brown type.

[Larry_Russell]

O great....trick-or-treat Jeff Green again.

He's actually developed into a pretty solid role player....I'm not sure if he's changed though....I think the game has changed to where he's sorta become the modern prototypical 4...so it's worked out for Green & his style of play, and has extended his career.

I would imagine if Jeff Green is dealt it's to a true contender though...not sure why Boston/Denver are looking to deal together??? Not putting too much stock in this...Jalen Smith would make way more sense for Boston. Phoenix is going for it....so I'm sure they'd be willing to move Smith if it meant they get back a solid veteran player in return.....But I'm not sure who that player from Boston would be? Al Horford would make sense for them but Phoenix doesn't have the contracts to match salary. Boston is going to trade Smart to Phoenix for Jalen Smith, unless Phoenix included more. Same with Josh Richardson, although Phoenix already has Richardson type players on their roster. So I'm just not sure what a deal looks like between Boston & Phoenix.

It would b Schroder for Smith

I'm not sure they would want Schroder? They have Chris Paul & Cam Payne...Smith is giving them quality minutes right now. If they replace Smith I would imagine they are looking for a low risk, veteran guy.....the PJ Brown type.

Schroder provides bench scoring that can cover in a pinch if Paul needs to load manage

[Celts17Pride]

O great....trick-or-treat Jeff Green again.

He's actually developed into a pretty solid role player....I'm not sure if he's changed though....I think the game has changed to where he's sorta become the modern prototypical 4...so it's worked out for Green & his style of play, and has extended his career.

I would imagine if Jeff Green is dealt it's to a true contender though...not sure why Boston/Denver are looking to deal together??? Not putting too much stock in this...Jalen Smith would make way more sense for Boston. Phoenix is going for it....so I'm sure they'd be willing to move Smith if it meant they get back a solid veteran player in return.....But I'm not sure who that player from Boston would be? Al Horford would make sense for them but Phoenix doesn't have the contracts to match salary. Boston is going to trade Smart to Phoenix for Jalen Smith, unless Phoenix included more. Same with Josh Richardson, although Phoenix already has Richardson type players on their roster. So I'm just not sure what a deal looks like between Boston & Phoenix.

It would b Schroder for Smith

I'm not sure they would want Schroder? They have Chris Paul & Cam Payne...Smith is giving them quality minutes right now. If they replace Smith I would imagine they are looking for a low risk, veteran guy.....the PJ Brown type.

like Jeff Green?

[GoCeltics123]

Only reason I can see Denver moving Uncle Jeff is his PO next year, which he's likely going to decline...even still, I don't see it.

One trade that would make a ton of sense to duck the tax and get better is Juancho and a couple of 2nds for Kenrich Williams

[BillessuR6]

Yes, I am sure Jeff Green will lead us to promised land.

But Denver is awful sans Jokic, they really need some more scoring...

So, I could definitely see them being interested in Schröder...

[ddb]

It would b Schroder for Smith

I'm not sure they would want Schroder? They have Chris Paul & Cam Payne...Smith is giving them quality minutes right now. If they replace Smith I would imagine they are looking for a low risk, veteran guy.....the PJ Brown type.

Schroder provides bench scoring that can cover in a pinch if Paul needs to load manage

by all means, I would do Schroder for Smith all day long. I just don't see Phoenix wanting Schroder...

[ddb]

It would b Schroder for Smith

I'm not sure they would want Schroder? They have Chris Paul & Cam Payne...Smith is giving them quality minutes right now. If they replace Smith I would imagine they are looking for a low risk, veteran guy.....the PJ Brown type.

like Jeff Green?

Yup. 3-way deal? Schroder to Denver, Green & Bos 2nd to Phoenix, Smith to Boston? Works in the checker. Did we just do Brad's job for him?

[Gomes3PC]

Would love the bet on Jalen Smith. Not sure what/how you could effectuate that trade but his skills fit great with Timelord if we really refuse to play Tatum as a PF.