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Post#701 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:45 pm

TommyPointGawd wrote:Damn homie you can't let old old things go lol. I still rock with Jackson though


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Post#702 » by 31to6 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:26 am

If this is what we're doing I have yet to hide for being 100% wrong on Jackson and Tatum and I'm 100% glad about it and am 100% staying away from draft threads because I suuuuuck at it
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Post#703 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:26 am

Gomes3PC wrote:My biggest issue with Tatum is he doesn't project to be elite at anything in the NBA and we already have a plethora of "good" on this roster.

I have little concern Tatum will be a solid pro, I just don't see the explosion or ferocity to be elite on either end. The one flash of ferocity I saw was his play in the ACC tourney, but that's such a small sample that it's hard to project off 3-4 games, it might have just been a hot streak.

As Ainge himself said, we are in need of "great.". Frankly I actually see a lot greater chance Jaylen becomes great than Tatum simply be cause he has that explosion in his first step.

People will crucify me but won't shock me if Ojeleye becomes a better player than Tatum. He has more physical tools to be a swing forward and his spot up shooting could make him an immediate Jerebko replacement, and if he develops his handle a bit I'm not sure exactly what Tatum does demonstrably better. I'm very high on Ojeleye though and thought he was a top 20 prospect in this class, while I had Tatum in the 7-8 range so the gap pre draft wasn't super wide.

The good news is that the sample is still pretty small. Ojeleye might yet come out on top.
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Post#704 » by Gomes3PC » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:59 am

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Gomes3PC wrote:My biggest issue with Tatum is he doesn't project to be elite at anything in the NBA and we already have a plethora of "good" on this roster.

I have little concern Tatum will be a solid pro, I just don't see the explosion or ferocity to be elite on either end. The one flash of ferocity I saw was his play in the ACC tourney, but that's such a small sample that it's hard to project off 3-4 games, it might have just been a hot streak.

As Ainge himself said, we are in need of "great.". Frankly I actually see a lot greater chance Jaylen becomes great than Tatum simply be cause he has that explosion in his first step.

People will crucify me but won't shock me if Ojeleye becomes a better player than Tatum. He has more physical tools to be a swing forward and his spot up shooting could make him an immediate Jerebko replacement, and if he develops his handle a bit I'm not sure exactly what Tatum does demonstrably better. I'm very high on Ojeleye though and thought he was a top 20 prospect in this class, while I had Tatum in the 7-8 range so the gap pre draft wasn't super wide.

The good news is that the sample is still pretty small. Ojeleye might yet come out on top.

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Post#705 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:28 pm

Damm, keep this bumps coming haha. Having so much fun.

Can anyone find the thread were Hayward commited to the Cs and then de-commited and everyone freaked out for like an 1h? I still remember refreshing twitter every 5 sec for what felt like an entire afternoon.
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Post#706 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:34 pm

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Gomes3PC wrote:My biggest issue with Tatum is he doesn't project to be elite at anything in the NBA and we already have a plethora of "good" on this roster.

I have little concern Tatum will be a solid pro, I just don't see the explosion or ferocity to be elite on either end. The one flash of ferocity I saw was his play in the ACC tourney, but that's such a small sample that it's hard to project off 3-4 games, it might have just been a hot streak.

As Ainge himself said, we are in need of "great.". Frankly I actually see a lot greater chance Jaylen becomes great than Tatum simply be cause he has that explosion in his first step.

People will crucify me but won't shock me if Ojeleye becomes a better player than Tatum. He has more physical tools to be a swing forward and his spot up shooting could make him an immediate Jerebko replacement, and if he develops his handle a bit I'm not sure exactly what Tatum does demonstrably better. I'm very high on Ojeleye though and thought he was a top 20 prospect in this class, while I had Tatum in the 7-8 range so the gap pre draft wasn't super wide.

The good news is that the sample is still pretty small. Ojeleye might yet come out on top.

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Same. I'm terrified of all the bumped threads. I probably called for the Celtics to draft Kris Dunn or something at some point.

here is a direct quote I was able to find:
Bleeding Green wrote:I wonder where someone like Tyler Smith will go. I'd draft him in the top-5, but no one else seems to agree with me. Most have him in the mid-20s. I mean, give me a break: DeAndre Jordan is going to be a better pro than Tyler Smith? Please. Stop with this nonsense.

Brandon Rush would be nice, too.

It's too early to predict where anyone outside of the top 3 or so guys is going.

If you asked me today who Tyler Smith was I'd say I've never heard of him.
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Post#707 » by TommyPointGawd » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:48 pm

You can either admit you were wrong, or you can keep an agenda forever. This is the way of the board.
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Post#708 » by jmr07019 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:38 pm

jmr07019 wrote:I don't get why people don't think his ceiling is high. I see his ceiling as 25 ppg on good efficiency, being able to play within a team concept but also being one of the better isolation scorers in the league. On top of that he can be an above average defender and pull down 7-8 boards a game. Not the next LeBron or Jordan but top 10 player in the league is absolutely in play.


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Post#709 » by 31to6 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:06 am

Tyler Smith was on pace to be an all-time great

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Post#710 » by threrf23 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:58 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Same. I'm terrified of all the bumped threads. I probably called for the Celtics to draft Kris Dunn or something at some point.


You're in the clear (or something).

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Post#711 » by Bleeding Green » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:09 am

threrf23 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Same. I'm terrified of all the bumped threads. I probably called for the Celtics to draft Kris Dunn or something at some point.


You're in the clear (or something).

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Re: Welcome Jayson Tatum 

Post#712 » by Parliament10 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:26 am

IDK where I said it, but I can remember wanting 3 x 1st Rounders for Trading away our 1st Overall pick, in 2017.
I knew that Ainge wanted Jayson Tatum, and he said that Celtics would have picked Tatum, with the 1st pick.

For our Overall 1st in 2017, I wanted:
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1) Jayson Tatum at 3rd Overall (2017)
2) A 2018 First Rounder.
3) A 2019 First Rounder.

Too greedy?
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Post#713 » by TommyPointGawd » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:49 am

I remember when I wanted Ainge to draft Giannis instead of Olynk. I made a bunch of post about it. I'll dig them up later
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