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BigTrade92 wrote:"PG is better, than Crowder but not by much."

This is where I stopped reading, and where you're entire argument came crashing down into a gigantic pile of rubble.

George is better by a LARGE margin and it's not even close.

brackdan70 wrote:

BigTrade92 wrote:"PG is better, than Crowder but not by much."

This is where I stopped reading, and where you're entire argument came crashing down into a gigantic pile of rubble.

George is better by a LARGE margin and it's not even close.

he is certainly better, but the effect on winning is marginal. maybe i worded that wrong, but If this Cs team swaps Crowder for PG, what changes?

The change is minimal and not significant IMO. Like I said, if the price was right I would have been happy, but it wouldn't have made much difference IMO.

BigTrade92 wrote:

brackdan70 wrote:

BigTrade92 wrote:"PG is better, than Crowder but not by much."

This is where I stopped reading, and where you're entire argument came crashing down into a gigantic pile of rubble.

George is better by a LARGE margin and it's not even close.

he is certainly better, but the effect on winning is marginal. maybe i worded that wrong, but If this Cs team swaps Crowder for PG, what changes?

The change is minimal and not significant IMO. Like I said, if the price was right I would have been happy, but it wouldn't have made much difference IMO.

PG over Crowder makes the Celtics a contender and a toss up against Cleveland, series could go either way. The Celtics, as is with Crowder, would be lucky to win two games against Cleveland.

That's the difference. And it's a big one.

brackdan70 wrote:

BigTrade92 wrote:

brackdan70 wrote:
he is certainly better, but the effect on winning is marginal. maybe i worded that wrong, but If this Cs team swaps Crowder for PG, what changes?

The change is minimal and not significant IMO. Like I said, if the price was right I would have been happy, but it wouldn't have made much difference IMO.

PG over Crowder makes the Celtics a contender and a toss up against Cleveland, series could go either way. The Celtics, as is with Crowder, would be lucky to win two games against Cleveland.

That's the difference. And it's a big one.

I believe you are overstating it...but fair enough.

threrf23 wrote:Jae is underappreciated and all these rumors (along with the SF draft pick) are set to light a fire under his ass. He is going to have a big year next year, if he can stay healthy.

brackdan70 wrote:

BigTrade92 wrote:

brackdan70 wrote:
he is certainly better, but the effect on winning is marginal. maybe i worded that wrong, but If this Cs team swaps Crowder for PG, what changes?

The change is minimal and not significant IMO. Like I said, if the price was right I would have been happy, but it wouldn't have made much difference IMO.

PG over Crowder makes the Celtics a contender and a toss up against Cleveland, series could go either way. The Celtics, as is with Crowder, would be lucky to win two games against Cleveland.

That's the difference. And it's a big one.

I believe you are overstating it...but fair enough.

brackdan70 wrote:Don't get me wrong. i would have been pretty excited if we traded Bradley, Crowder, memphis pick, Clipper pick and 2018 Boston pick for PG...but now that the dust has settled, I am glad we didn't. PG is better, than Crowder but not by much.

If you could have a guy that shot. 0.463 / 0.398 / 0.811, Ortg 118, DRTG 108, BPM 1.6, RPM 3.89 (top 5 SF) in exchange for Crowder Bradley and three first round picks you would jump al over it right?

I sure as hell would....but those are Crowders numbers. dude is a good player signed cheap for three more years. As i sober up from the PG hype and the 4 ...(should I have a fifth?) jalapeño Margaritas, i am damn glad we still have Crowder.

In a stunner of a deal, the Indiana Pacers reportedly agreed to trade the star forward to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis.

The Pacers reportedly had been fielding a number of offers for George, one of which coming from the Boston Celtics. According to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman, the C’s offered the Pacers three first-round picks — not including either Brooklyn Nets’ pick or the Los Angeles Lakers/Sacramento Kings pick — and two starting players, one of which being Jae Crowder.

Although there’s a chance none of the three first-rounders offered by the Celtics would be lottery selections, Boston’s offer certainly is a whole lot better than what Indiana received from OKC. A top pick might have been the dealbreaker for the Pacers with the Celtics, which Danny Ainge reportedly wasn’t willing to give up.

darylbe wrote:Verbal diarrhea. Rather than dropping your dumb ass stats, the- PG13 averages 24 ppg vs Jaes 14. 6.6trb vs Jaes 5.8.

The team needs someone averaging 20+ a night besides IT, bottom line.

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Parliament10 wrote:

brackdan70 wrote:Don't get me wrong. i would have been pretty excited if we traded Bradley, Crowder, memphis pick, Clipper pick and 2018 Boston pick for PG...but now that the dust has settled, I am glad we didn't. PG is better, than Crowder but not by much.

If you could have a guy that shot. 0.463 / 0.398 / 0.811, Ortg 118, DRTG 108, BPM 1.6, RPM 3.89 (top 5 SF) in exchange for Crowder Bradley and three first round picks you would jump al over it right?

I sure as hell would....but those are Crowders numbers. dude is a good player signed cheap for three more years. As i sober up from the PG hype and the 4 ...(should I have a fifth?) jalapeño Margaritas, i am damn glad we still have Crowder.

IMO, anything more than what Danny offered, would have been too much.

That said. -- PG-13 would have been a definite upgrade over Crowder.
But this "Sell the Farm at all costs Mentality" = No Go, on that.

I'd rather keep who and what we have, and wait.
Than to go all in; on Rentals, at that.







Here’s What Celtics Reportedly Offered Pacers For Paul George On Draft Night
by Adam London on Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:34PM (EST)

http://nesn.com/2017/06/heres-what-celtics-reportedly-offered-pacers-for-paul-george-on-draft-night/

In a stunner of a deal, the Indiana Pacers reportedly agreed to trade the star forward to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis.

The Pacers reportedly had been fielding a number of offers for George, one of which coming from the Boston Celtics. According to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman, the C’s offered the Pacers three first-round picks — not including either Brooklyn Nets’ pick or the Los Angeles Lakers/Sacramento Kings pick — and two starting players, one of which being Jae Crowder.

Although there’s a chance none of the three first-rounders offered by the Celtics would be lottery selections, Boston’s offer certainly is a whole lot better than what Indiana received from OKC. A top pick might have been the dealbreaker for the Pacers with the Celtics, which Danny Ainge reportedly wasn’t willing to give up.

ParticleMan wrote:as i said before all this went down, i wasn't totally thrilled at the hayward/george pairing. so i'm not heartbroken here. i still hope we get hayward, because he won't cost any assets.

but if Indy takes oladipo/sabonis over our package... smh, dunno what to say. i sure as hell wouldn't trade the package we were offering for those two, not in a million years.

i think people are just scared to death to deal with ainge at this point.