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If you didn’t already know, December 15th is the first day that teams can trade most of the free agents that just signed this offseason. Or as Bill Simmons likes to call it “Trade Machine Day.”

On December 15, NBA teams can officially trade almost anyone signed from last summer. Any type of player ranging from Johnson (one year, $11 million) to Tim “I’m Overpaid but Fun to Have Around” Hardaway Jr. (four years, $71 million) to Nerlens “I’m Very, Very Available” Noel (one year, $4.2 million) to Old Man Vince Carter (one year, $8 million) to Token Handshake Specialist (one year, $1.4 million) can be crammed into any deal.

There has been next to no trade buzz surrounding the Celtics and for good reason. The team was so radically revamped this summer that it doesn’t make a lot of sense to change things up too much until we know what we have. Also, so far everything we have seems to be working pretty well. Finally, we don’t even know everything we have yet because our Max free agent has only played 5 minutes and may not see the court till next season.

So if it ain’t broke, will Danny Ainge still try to fix it? He might. I wouldn’t put anything past him (like never ever again after this summer).

Parliament10 wrote:A) Greg Monroe, DPE after Buyout.
B) Morris / Nader / K. Allen / and Pick = Nerlens Noel & J. Motley.
C1) Yabusele / Larkin / Pick = Lou Williams
C2) Smart / Pick = Lou Williams
D) Convert Bird to Full NBA.
E) Sign a new Two-Way.
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C1 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / --------
Brown / Williams / Bird (Convert to NBA)
Tatum / (Smart) / Ojeleye
Horford / Noel / -------- / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis
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C2 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / Larkin
Brown / Williams / -------- / [Bird (2-Way)]
Tatum / Ojeleye / --------
Horford / Noel / Yabusele / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis

ddb wrote:

Parliament10 wrote:A) Greg Monroe, DPE after Buyout.
B) Morris / Nader / K. Allen / and Pick = Nerlens Noel & J. Motley.
C1) Yabusele / Larkin / Pick = Lou Williams
C2) Smart / Pick = Lou Williams
D) Convert Bird to Full NBA.
E) Sign a new Two-Way.
________________________________________


C1 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / --------
Brown / Williams / Bird (Convert to NBA)
Tatum / (Smart) / Ojeleye
Horford / Noel / -------- / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis
________________________________________


C2 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / Larkin
Brown / Williams / -------- / [Bird (2-Way)]
Tatum / Ojeleye / --------
Horford / Noel / Yabusele / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis

a few of your trade ideas are not favorable for the Celtics. You're giving up too much in these deals. For example, Noel is zero value right now across the league. So why would Ainge want to give up Morris who is a lot better (when healthy) AND other stuff to get him? Clippers are not getting Marcus Smart.. That's just not happening. Lou Williams can score, but they wouldn't get anything more than Nader and their pick back, MAYBE.

Parliament10 wrote:

ddb wrote:

Parliament10 wrote:A) Greg Monroe, DPE after Buyout.
B) Morris / Nader / K. Allen / and Pick = Nerlens Noel & J. Motley.
C1) Yabusele / Larkin / Pick = Lou Williams
C2) Smart / Pick = Lou Williams
D) Convert Bird to Full NBA.
E) Sign a new Two-Way.
________________________________________


C1 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / --------
Brown / Williams / Bird (Convert to NBA)
Tatum / (Smart) / Ojeleye
Horford / Noel / -------- / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis
________________________________________


C2 - Proposed Changes, 2017-18:
Irving / Rozier / Larkin
Brown / Williams / -------- / [Bird (2-Way)]
Tatum / Ojeleye / --------
Horford / Noel / Yabusele / [Motley (2-Way)]
Monroe / Baynes / Theis

a few of your trade ideas are not favorable for the Celtics. You're giving up too much in these deals. For example, Noel is zero value right now across the league. So why would Ainge want to give up Morris who is a lot better (when healthy) AND other stuff to get him? Clippers are not getting Marcus Smart.. That's just not happening. Lou Williams can score, but they wouldn't get anything more than Nader and their pick back, MAYBE.

Lou Williams, is making $7M. -- Without the DPE, you'd have to give up someone, and a pick.
Smart, I'm actually not in favor of Trading. Though, Danny may go that route, instead of upping his Contract.
Noel, has got to be better than a hobbled Morris, who can't seem to get on the Court.
Nader, traded with Morris, is more to free up space, and ourselves of a Sub-NBA talent.

ConstableGeneva wrote:Here's the "trade season primer" from CelticsHub c/o Ryan Bernardoni: http://www.celticshub.com/2017/12/10/celtics-goals-wants-targets-start-trade-season/

Favors and/or Tyreke Evans for me. Both can help a lot in the playoffs, but I don't think Ainge is willing to trade assets for rentals with a low likelihood of re-signing them to cheap contracts. I'm not even sure how available they are / they will be. I believe we're staying dormant until buyout season. But I've been wrong ten bajillion times before so we probably get Anthony Davis here before Pierce's retirement ceremony.

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Any interest in Nikola Mirotic? They'd have to move the DPE for someone like Vince Carter and then deal VC and an asset or 2 to Chicago..

Mirotic can stretch the floor and score off the bench.

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Any interest in Nikola Mirotic? They'd have to move the DPE for someone like Vince Carter and then deal VC and an asset or 2 to Chicago..

Mirotic can stretch the floor and score off the bench.

The deadline has passed for that to happen unfortunately.

CelticFaninLBC wrote:

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Any interest in Nikola Mirotic? They'd have to move the DPE for someone like Vince Carter and then deal VC and an asset or 2 to Chicago..

Mirotic can stretch the floor and score off the bench.

The deadline has passed for that to happen unfortunately.

It has? I believe they can move Vince Carter's contract on the same day??

Edug27 wrote:Random, but those who wouldn't or think Danny wouldn't include Tatum (as much as I like him) in a trade for AD is out of their minds.

watsonthedragon wrote:

Edug27 wrote:Random, but those who wouldn't or think Danny wouldn't include Tatum (as much as I like him) in a trade for AD is out of their minds.

I think he would. But do you think/think Danny would include both Tatum and Brown?

Edug27 wrote:

watsonthedragon wrote:

Edug27 wrote:Random, but those who wouldn't or think Danny wouldn't include Tatum (as much as I like him) in a trade for AD is out of their minds.

I think he would. But do you think/think Danny would include both Tatum and Brown?

That might be a bit much. But if things fall into place (Hayward comes back healthy, LA pick lands) then it definitely should be considered.

Kyrie
Hayward
Horford
Davis

Surround them with shooters and you're looking at a something special.

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Any interest in Nikola Mirotic? They'd have to move the DPE for someone like Vince Carter and then deal VC and an asset or 2 to Chicago..

Mirotic can stretch the floor and score off the bench.

The deadline has passed for that to happen unfortunately.

watsonthedragon wrote:

Edug27 wrote:

watsonthedragon wrote:
I think he would. But do you think/think Danny would include both Tatum and Brown?

That might be a bit much. But if things fall into place (Hayward comes back healthy, LA pick lands) then it definitely should be considered.

Kyrie
Hayward
Horford
Davis

Surround them with shooters and you're looking at a something special.

I thought we had to send out Horford in any AD deal to match salaries, but I could be wrong. Can we do it with a combo of Morris, Baynes, Smart? If so, I agree, that is a championship quality lineup.