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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#21 » by Parliament10 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:04 am

Spin Move wrote:If we don't have Kyrie this is going to be a close game. Neither team is going to have a good traditional point guard, I think that favors the sixers who have Ben Simmons. Do we start Rozier or Larkin if Kyrie and Smart are out? I like the idea of Larkin, he needs the ball less more shots for Horfard, Brown and JT.

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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#22 » by thelarrybirdx » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:09 am

The Pelicans could be the worst matchup in the NBA for us. I think tomorrow will be a much better game, assuming everyone is healthy.
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Post#23 » by kuclas » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 am

Celtics (and Warriors) have figured how to somewhat neutralize Embiid whether with good help defense or just quick double team. Seems like Brad Stevens has gotten his inner Bill Belichick defensive scheme when guarding Embiid using combination of Al Horford/Baynes and various schemes to confuse Embiid.

It’s working. As a sixers fan. Embiid will eventually figure it out. But Celtics have a good plan for him in the two games he’s played against them.

Embiid did have a pretty darn good game last January 2017 against the Celtics in Boston.
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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#24 » by Parliament10 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 am

thelarrybirdx wrote:The Pelicans could be the worst matchup in the NBA for us. I think tomorrow will be a much better game, assuming everyone is healthy.

Yeah but, everyone may not be healthy. We potentially have 3 Down.


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Post#25 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:52 am

No Reddick for them is helpful.

It isn't like no Simmons or Embiid, but at least it'll help.

The Raptors are far too close in the standings for my liking.
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Post#26 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:53 am

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I tend to disagree, having seen them guard the Nets last night, but so be it. I would say us and GS are better overall. Atkinson is a good coach to be fair.
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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#27 » by Tiny ball » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:09 am

3D Chess wrote:They don't have AD so I think we'll be ok in this one.

AD scored 8 points in 38 minutes in Atlanta. Strikes fear in my heart.
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Post#28 » by ViperGTS » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:18 am

Tiny ball wrote:
3D Chess wrote:They don't have AD so I think we'll be ok in this one.

AD scored 8 points in 38 minutes in Atlanta. Strikes fear in my heart.


Fatigue from the night before. Telling you, his body is getting used up already.
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Post#29 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:30 am

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Word. Hopefully our guys got the memo. I get that sometimes the defense has forced us into iso ball but there are times when we do settle instead of running what has worked for us. I miss the days when we get into our sets early and the ball is spraying around until we find the best shot. Too many stagnant possessions still. I get kinda jealous whenever I watch the Dubs' screening and cutting. They often get easy layups and open threes out of those. Maybe it will come for us with more practice and familiarity but I'm thinking we have too many guys that are either unwilling or unable (or both) to make the next timely, on-target pass.
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Post#30 » by steefP2 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:56 am

Where’s reload telling me Kyrie will be fine ? I need it. I dont wanna lose games ever again.
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Post#31 » by steefP2 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:00 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
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Word. Hopefully our guys got the memo. I get that sometimes the defense has forced us into iso ball but there are times when we do settle instead of running what has worked for us. I miss the days when we get into our sets early and the ball is spraying around until we find the best shot. Too many stagnant possessions still. I get kinda jealous whenever I watch the Dubs' screening and cutting. They often get easy layups and open threes out of those. Maybe it will come for us with more practice and familiarity but I'm thinking we have too many guys that are either unwilling or unable (or both) to make the next timely, on-target pass.



I think next year will be a lot better. Took GSW a while too when Durant came.

The combined effect of Irving being more in the system, having Hayward as a release option and a playmaker and the continued growth of young guys will all help.

I think you’ll always have a certain amount of iso stuff on a Kyrie team but I do think it’ll lessen as time goes on. He’s still young enough to learn and change to a degree.
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Post#32 » by steefP2 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:53 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=WUs2yjIZidk

From the Ringer, thought it was pretty funny. It's a silent film satire thing about being a Philly fan and going through the Fultz thing.
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Post#33 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:00 am

Brett Brown on Fultz Behind the Scenes

The last maybe five practices, he is the backup point guard. I give him the ball — TJ doesn't have the ball Markelle has the ball — and we play. I coach him like I coach Ben Simmons. We run plays and we run our structure and so on. And he looks good! You can see why he was the first player chosen; stuff he does with the ball, his ability to get in the lane and find people, [and] the hesitancy at times we see with his shot is true, it's real.

He can still impact an NBA game without having to shoot, he really can an impact an NBA game without having to shoot. That doesn't make him whole though, it doesn't make him whole. And finding what the next step is, where he can go into an NBA game and feel more whole than he currently does, is the timeline of okay, when does he go play?


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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#34 » by Green89 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:05 pm

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More like, "not taking those tough, contested shots that due to the course of the game we Smart falls into sometimes all the time."
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Post#35 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:56 pm

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More like, "not taking those tough, contested shots that due to the course of the game we Smart falls into sometimes all the time."


Smart all the time, but Irving's been doing it 85% of the time now too in the second half not just with 2 mins or less. And Rozier was good at the start of the season, then was as bad as Smart, and now isn about Irvinging it.

We need our 3 PGs to run the **** offense. I don't care if they think they're great without it, it's about the **** team not those pieces of ****.
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Post#36 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:09 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Brett Brown on Fultz Behind the Scenes

The last maybe five practices, he is the backup point guard. I give him the ball — TJ doesn't have the ball Markelle has the ball — and we play. I coach him like I coach Ben Simmons. We run plays and we run our structure and so on. And he looks good! You can see why he was the first player chosen; stuff he does with the ball, his ability to get in the lane and find people, [and] the hesitancy at times we see with his shot is true, it's real.

He can still impact an NBA game without having to shoot, he really can an impact an NBA game without having to shoot. That doesn't make him whole though, it doesn't make him whole. And finding what the next step is, where he can go into an NBA game and feel more whole than he currently does, is the timeline of okay, when does he go play?


Sixers now have two no.1 pick PGs who can't shoot for ****. Grrrreat!


I literally can not recall hearing anything like this before. It isn't like this guy had a Marvin Bagley body where you could say oh not that his athleticism isn't special he's hesitant and doesn't know what to do without having natural gifts on his side.

Fultz was in the Irving mold where he was constant dribble and shots of dribbles as well as change of attack in the air shots. The way he needed to play in the NBA he was doing in college. Lets not even forget he measured with the same wingspan as Tatum while being at the PG spot so even then he should have natural advantages physically for getting his shot off.

I just can't understand how this is possibly happening without a physical injury.

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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#37 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:09 pm

kuclas wrote:Celtics (and Warriors) have figured how to somewhat neutralize Embiid whether with good help defense or just quick double team. Seems like Brad Stevens has gotten his inner Bill Belichick defensive scheme when guarding Embiid using combination of Al Horford/Baynes and various schemes to confuse Embiid.

It’s working. As a sixers fan. Embiid will eventually figure it out. But Celtics have a good plan for him in the two games he’s played against them.

Embiid did have a pretty darn good game last January 2017 against the Celtics in Boston.


I don't think there's too much to figure out. Baynes is just a big guy that Embiid can't push around like most centers in the league, same thing happened with Val vs Toronto. Embiid's outside shot isn't falling like it was last season so he isn't as dangerous stretching the floor. The only issue with matching up Baynes all game is Horford is forced to guard a quicker player, he can't stay with Simmons.
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Post#38 » by kuclas » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:10 pm

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kuclas wrote:Celtics (and Warriors) have figured how to somewhat neutralize Embiid whether with good help defense or just quick double team. Seems like Brad Stevens has gotten his inner Bill Belichick defensive scheme when guarding Embiid using combination of Al Horford/Baynes and various schemes to confuse Embiid.

It’s working. As a sixers fan. Embiid will eventually figure it out. But Celtics have a good plan for him in the two games he’s played against them.

Embiid did have a pretty darn good game last January 2017 against the Celtics in Boston.


I don't think there's too much to figure out. Baynes is just a big guy that Embiid can't push around like most centers in the league, same thing happened with Val vs Toronto. Embiid's outside shot isn't falling like it was last season so he isn't as dangerous stretching the floor. The only issue with matching up Baynes all game is Horford is forced to guard a quicker player, he can't stay with Simmons.


It's Boston's help defense that is the difference here. Embiid can blow by Baynes pretty much anytime he wants but Boston's defense reacts much better than other teams. Embiid didn't have any issues with Val vs Toronto. Toronto pretty much gave up putting Val on Embiid and went with Poeltl most the game.

When Embiid is on, pretty much nothing can stop him.

But overall Celtics are just plain better than Sixers. With no Reddick and hot/cold Robert Covington, Celtics can pretty much pack the paint and surround Embiid and force the sixers to shoot from the outside. Pretty simple gameplan tonight
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Re: Sixers (20-20) @ Celtics (34-11) – 7:00 PM, Thurs, Jan. 18, 2018 

Post#39 » by GregB » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:58 pm

I am going to the game tonight. I am hopeful Kyrie plays.

But without Reddick playing it will be a lot easier to pack the paint on them. My GF and I are undefeated when we goto the Celtics. Hopefully we extend the streak tonight.
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Post#40 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:58 pm

I think this is a tough game without Kyrie. Hopeful he plays

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