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Kawhi Leonard rumor 

Post#1 » by sam_I_am » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:46 pm

Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#2 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:50 pm

Well, Ainge was allegedly gonna throw 3 1st rounder towards PG13. 4 1st rounders? Yeah, sure, but only if Kawhi agrees to an extension first (not even sure if that's possible though).
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Post#3 » by Jaqua92 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:51 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...


If that were the case...please. Go right ahead and make it happen.

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Post#4 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:53 pm

Salaries are not even remotely close. Celtics have to send about 12M back to the spurs for this to work.
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Post#5 » by Homerclease » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:54 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...

Massive price, especially if 2 of those 4 picks are the kings pick and the Grizz pick. I’m a huge Brown fan but Kawhi is the level that you hope Brown can one day reach. I’m also nervous dealing with R.C. Buford. The spurs don’t make bad deals much like the Celtics
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Post#6 » by K For Three » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:56 pm

I think before you make any potential deal with Leonard it would be nice to also know what the hell is going on with Leonard to begin with?! Why is he MIA?
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Post#7 » by sam_I_am » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:59 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...

Massive price, especially if 2 of those 4 picks are the kings pick and the Grizz pick. I’m a huge Brown fan but Kawhi is the level that you hope Brown can one day reach. I’m also nervous dealing with R.C. Buford. The spurs don’t make bad deals much like the Celtics


I think you would need to sign and trade Smart or Baynes at 10 mil to make salaries work too. My concern is less Buford and more Kawhi. 2 seasons in a row injured and what if this quad injury is tendon and the reason he is out is fear of rupture? I have heard he won’t play until he gets his new max (I’m guessing he can opt out?). Personally, I don’t think he is worth the price now that he is damaged goods. However, when healthy he is as good as anybody - Durant and Lebron included.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#8 » by reload141 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:01 pm

More obtainable than AD, this is like Kyrie all over again.

Go get him.
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Post#9 » by Larry Legend 33 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:02 pm

The market isn't going to be what the Spurs think. His contract situation & his mysterious injury will drive his value way down. Not interested in Brown + MEM + SAC. Maybe Brown + MEM
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Post#10 » by Moose23 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:02 pm

I wouldnt give up brown and all those firsts for Kawhi.

I like Leonard alot, but that is a crazy package.
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Post#11 » by ZeroTolerance » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:06 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...


The Felger factor.....lets not forget that he and Maz and followers are all about controversy....More likely its all about nothing....When have they ever broke a story?... It's just idle chatter...The Bruins and the Red Sox are leaving little to complain about.....you know? ...what are they gonna talk about for four hours?...the weather?


I'd be more aware of what Scal or Max were saying about it all...
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Post#12 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:06 pm

Another smoke alarm to mention - remember when Kawhi came out a few weeks ago and said he wanted to stay with the Spurs? Antonio Daniels was on XM radio and he kept asking his co-host, "Dont you think there was something strange about that interview? The timing of it, and the answers?"

He then went on to say that he felt that the answers given by Leonard were "canned answers" and abruptly said "I'm just going to leave it at that. That's all I'm going to say!". Daniels used to play for the Spurs, so it sounded like he was hinting at something.

Too much smoke in the air.
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Post#13 » by Scoonie » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:06 pm

Hell no, that's way too much to give up considering Leonard may be damaged goods at this point. We would also have a glut of small forwards on the roster (Hayward, Tatum, Leonard).
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Post#14 » by K For Three » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:06 pm

If Popovich can't seem to get through to Leonard.......what makes people think Brad will?

With Kyrie it was easier. The Cavs are led by Lebron and a dumb owner/coach.
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Post#15 » by 3D Chess » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:10 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:If Popovich can't seem to get through to Leonard.......what makes people think Brad will?

Brad is a better coach than Pop right now and going into the future.
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Post#16 » by jfs1000d » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:15 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Heard this on Felger show and it was caller generated but they said this caller is usually spot on. He has heard that Celtics asked what it would take to get Leonard and were told Brown plus 4 1st rd picks. Take it for what it’s worth...


LOL.

That's a massive overpay.
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Post#17 » by ZeroTolerance » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:16 pm

3D Chess wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:If Popovich can't seem to get through to Leonard.......what makes people think Brad will?

Brad is a better coach than Pop right now and going into the future.


This is more of a management thing....not the coaching persay....It's dollars and cents...
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Post#18 » by Smitty731 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:17 pm

Ainge will 100% go after Kawhi. So will 28 other non-Spurs GMs.

Brown for Kawhi doesn't remotely match salary-wise. It would take Brown and bunch more salary. But dudes who live in fantasy land don't bother with that, because you can just turn the cap off on 2K and push through whatever dumb deal you want.
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Post#19 » by TheTruth316 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:17 pm

Where in the world of fantasy do stupid proposals come from? And even worse, are people saying do it! Have you read history? Herschel walker? Show me one good trade giving up that much..
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Post#20 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:20 pm

Probably would be something like Brown, Morris, Smart S&T, SAC pick, Memphis pick, Clippers pick, Our pick?

That's a ton. If he's healthy and re-signs, that could be worth it

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