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Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:34 pm
by Andrew McCeltic
Supposedly we don’t want to have three rookies

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:00 pm
by JR Hawks
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Supposedly we don’t want to have three rookies


The last time Danny made similar declarations we ended up with an ill-advised stashing strategy and a couple horrible picks in Yabu and Zizic. Either pick the best players available (and there will be some guys with upside available) or trade the picks.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:47 pm
by Andrew McCeltic
Right, which is why 20 and 22 for 12 or 16 is a good deal..?

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:06 pm
by return2glory
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Supposedly we don’t want to have three rookies


Yeah I heard that too. But no one knows what Ainge is going to do because of the extra uncertainty this summer.

He might still trade for AD and a few of those picks might be included. He might make a few other trades and include those picks if he doesn’t get AD.

He might slash a pick or two or keep all 3 1st round picks.

I’m going into the draft hoping we keep all 3 picks and pick really good players or players that can turn out to be really good and go from there.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:44 pm
by Andrew McCeltic
It’s a tough draft because it’s so variable - there could be great players on the board at 14, 20 and 22 - or they could all get snatched up before we’re on the clock ..

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:07 pm
by neno
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Supposedly we don’t want to have three rookies

This gets said every year

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:44 pm
by Fischella
These are my final 3 top tiers for this class, not gonna move them (obviously within a tier rankings are somewhat flexible)

I

Zion Williamson

II

Brandon Clarke
Jarrett Culver/RJ Barrett

III

Tyler Herro
Darius Garland
Ja Morant
Goga Bitadze
PJ Washington
Grant Williams
De'Andre Hunter
Coby White
Cameron Reddish
Matisse Thybulle
Sekou Doumbouya
Carsen Edwards
Chuma Okeke
Jontay Porter
Nic Claxton

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:47 pm
by SmartWentCrazy
Could not disagree with you more on Culver and Barrett

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:24 pm
by Fischella
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Could not disagree with you more on Culver and Barrett

meaning what? since I have them dead even it's hard to know really

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:32 pm
by SmartWentCrazy
Fischella wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Could not disagree with you more on Culver and Barrett

meaning what? since I have them dead even it's hard to know really


That theyre above others and in tier 2.

Culver struggled immensely vs NBA caliber defenders. Against Hunter, whos a much better team defender than man defender, Culver couldnt score. I have serious doubts that he’ll ever be able to score with high enough efficiency to ever be a star at the next level, which means hes not tier 2 to me.

Barrett is similar. I like his vision much better and his ability to create his shot much higher than Culver, but his shooting is straight bad. Itll close driving lanes on him as people will play off of him and his game will suffer. I dont see him scoring with high enough efficiency to be a star either.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:41 pm
by greenroom31
1 - Zion
2 - Jah
3/4/5 - RJ/Garland/Hunter in some order
6-14 - White/Culver/Reddish/Clarke/Little/Doumboya/Washington/Bitadze/Williams in some order
15-60 - Who cares?

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:32 pm
by Fischella
That's fair, they would not be tier 2 in a bunch of drafts, I think RJ is the one I agree with you the most on and I have thought about moving him down, but Culver has enough going for him defensively in terms of being special and impactful to remain there

Both have size and the frame and body to be real strong players, that's another differentiator for me between them and the rest

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:40 pm
by return2glory
Clarke is a more athletic version of Jordan Mickey. He is an interesting player. Not much offensive skills. But man, can he bring energy and defense. He can guard SGs, SFs, and PFs. He doesn’t back down.

But he is 6’8 with a short reach, weighs only 210 at the moment and has offensive limitations.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:46 pm
by return2glory
greenroom31 wrote:1 - Zion
2 - Jah
3/4/5 - RJ/Garland/Hunter in some order
6-14 - White/Culver/Reddish/Clarke/Little/Doumboya/Washington/Bitadze/Williams in some order
15-60 - Who cares?


I have a feeling this draft is going to have at least 4 or 5 players at 15 or after who will be better than some of the players taken 1-14.

It’s a deep draft.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:49 pm
by brackdan70
return2glory wrote:Clarke is a more athletic version of Jordan Mickey. He is an interesting player. Not much offensive skills. But man, can he bring energy and defense. He can guard SGs, SFs, and PFs. He doesn’t back down.

But he is 6’8 with a short reach, weighs only 210 at the moment and has offensive limitations.

Is be fine drafting Clarke at 14 but him being mentioned on the top 10 tells you a lot about this draft. Guy like him is normally on the 20s

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:51 pm
by greenroom31
return2glory wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:1 - Zion
2 - Jah
3/4/5 - RJ/Garland/Hunter in some order
6-14 - White/Culver/Reddish/Clarke/Little/Doumboya/Washington/Bitadze/Williams in some order
15-60 - Who cares?


I have a feeling this draft is going to have at least 4 or 5 players at 15 or after who will be better than some of the players taken 1-14.

It’s a deep draft.


Maybe so. I think "deep" draft is usually code for "bad", and don't think any of the guys outside the top 2 have star potential. Maybe you can find a few solid starters and role players, but I don't see a lot of talent in this class.

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:00 pm
by Andrew McCeltic
brackdan70 wrote:
return2glory wrote:Clarke is a more athletic version of Jordan Mickey. He is an interesting player. Not much offensive skills. But man, can he bring energy and defense. He can guard SGs, SFs, and PFs. He doesn’t back down.

But he is 6’8 with a short reach, weighs only 210 at the moment and has offensive limitations.

Is be fine drafting Clarke at 14 but him being mentioned on the top 10 tells you a lot about this draft. Guy like him is normally on the 20s


If you want a player who can potentially guard 2s, 3s and 4s, I'd look at Nas Little, Keldon Johnson, Grant Williams, and Talen Horton-Tucker..

Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:56 pm
by bigfoot_cryptozoology
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Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:59 pm
by bigfoot_cryptozoology
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Re: 2019 NBA draft

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:08 pm
by bigfoot_cryptozoology
Bol already looks like he has a better handle than Jaylen... Bol, could be another unicorn or the latest in a long line of failed twiggy Big Men. Still the shot's there and that's half the battle.