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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#161 » by brackdan70 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:35 am

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It's sort of like QBs int he NFL. Every year is supposed to be a "weak" QB draft it seems then the combine starts happening and guys start throwing the ball 80 yds and all the teams that need a QB start saying it's actually a good draft for QBs and 4 go on the first 10 picks. Never changes..


The 2016 draft is kind of the perfect example of this. It was supposed to be a 3 person draft between Simmons, Skal and Ingram. During the season Simmons separated himself and Skal played horrible so he fell. At the start of the season a lot of people were high on the draft, then by the middle of the season it was viewed as a horrible draft (which it was). But come the combine, Dunn was being talked about as the next Wade, Hield was Curry but bigger, Bender was better than Porzingis and so on. Drafts tend to get talked up at the start of the season and at the combine.


any draft class that includes Simmons, Ingram, Brown, Dunn, Jamal Murray, Sabonis, Prince, Hield, Siakam, Dejounte Murray, and Brogdon is a very solid draft. That's 11 above average starters. And then you have a slew of solid role players on top of that. This narrative that 2016 was a weak draft class is really played out and completely false. It's as strong as the previous 3 draft classes before it. Not excellent but definitely not horrible

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#162 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:42 pm

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Mack Lundquist wrote:We are already seeing some freshmen coem out of nowhere like Trae Young last year and make themselves look like first rounders, and possible lottery picks. Jalen Smith of Maryland. Bassey of Western Kentucky, Hayes of Texas. Moses Brown of UCLA. Simi S&6ttu of Vanderbilt. This is a good draft to have multiple first rounders.


If Jalen Smith and Simi are considered lottery picks, then this draft is poor. They are very "fringy" NBA players.


:-? How can you tell they're fringe nba talents a couple games into their college career? Both were considered pretty raw athletic players, Smith especially because he still needs to fill out. They've both had some good games to start also, **** is 16/13.


Because their understanding of basketball is quite subpar. They don't make great reads on defense, neither displai high IQ offense.

So they are raw, and because of the above, I don't expect them to develop any skills at an elite level. Don't see the difference between them and Marquese Chris.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#163 » by Patsfan1081 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:10 pm

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If Jalen Smith and Simi are considered lottery picks, then this draft is poor. They are very "fringy" NBA players.


:-? How can you tell they're fringe nba talents a couple games into their college career? Both were considered pretty raw athletic players, Smith especially because he still needs to fill out. They've both had some good games to start also, **** is 16/13.


Because their understanding of basketball is quite subpar. They don't make great reads on defense, neither displai high IQ offense.

So they are raw, and because of the above, I don't expect them to develop any skills at an elite level. Don't see the difference between them and Marquese Chris.


From what I've read that doesn't describe either, both are said to have a high IQ and good decision making. Both are said to have high defensive potential. Raw can refer to a lot of things, in Smith's case it's perimeter shooting and ball handling(sound familiar?). But that's what I mean, unless these kids go to the top prep programs, judging them based of decision making in high school is a lost cause. Back to the original topic it seems like the concensous is both are mid to late round picks with the possibility they stay another year. Though both have looked pretty decent in a incredibly small sample so we'll have to wait and see.

Chriss also had his motor questioned coming out, had really bad feet, and for some reason couldn't rebound at all despite being freakishly athletic. I don't see the similarities. Shittu is a monster on the boards, has very good feet, and a great motor.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#164 » by Homerclease » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:40 pm

This draft is so much better than people think. There’s a lot of quality talent to be had in the late lotto and mid rounds. Hell, Jontay Porter might be there at the end of the first due to his knee injury. Perfect guy to take and redshirt down in Maine with the Celtics pick this year. Would love for the Celtics to get their hands on Naz Reid, Darius Garland and maybe even Bol Bol but I think Bol is creeping toward the top 5 already
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Post#165 » by jcappy » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:59 pm

Very funny that NBA Draft.Net has Boston (in accordance with current standings) getting 4 first round picks ALL BUNCHED TOGETHER at 19, 21,22,23. McDaniels, Gafford, Moses Brown, and Keldon Johnson. Ha. How do you line them all up when you're picking like that.
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Post#166 » by robdog_5 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:59 pm

Watching some Duke vs SDSU. From San Diego so I try to check out the Aztecs. Barrett is so smooth man. Zion is gonna be an elite rebounder such a quick jumper and so strong.

McDaniels against other top notch talent hasn't been great but has flashed.

Pretty sure I saw Danny watching
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Post#167 » by JHTruth » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 pm

robdog_5 wrote:Watching some Duke vs SDSU. From San Diego so I try to check out the Aztecs. Barrett is so smooth man. Zion is gonna be an elite rebounder such a quick jumper and so strong.

McDaniels against other top notch talent hasn't been great but has flashed.

Pretty sure I saw Danny watching


Danny has been at Maui for every game. McDaniels went off yesterday. Demanding the ball in crunch time coming from behind. Danny had to love that.

Big game for Rui Hachimura vs Duke today. He'll probably be right there around the Kings pick. I think if you come out of the draft with say Rui/McDaniels/Garland and maybe Simi S/Bassey/Gafford/Jaylen Smith you have the best young core in the league..
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Post#168 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:47 pm

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robdog_5 wrote:Watching some Duke vs SDSU. From San Diego so I try to check out the Aztecs. Barrett is so smooth man. Zion is gonna be an elite rebounder such a quick jumper and so strong.

McDaniels against other top notch talent hasn't been great but has flashed.

Pretty sure I saw Danny watching


Danny has been at Maui for every game. McDaniels went off yesterday. Demanding the ball in crunch time coming from behind. Danny had to love that.

Big game for Rui Hachimura vs Duke today. He'll probably be right there around the Kings pick. I think if you come out of the draft with say Rui/McDaniels/Garland and maybe Simi S/Bassey/Gafford/Jaylen Smith you have the best young core in the league..


Best outcome if we have 3 picks or more is Garland/Gafford/Jontay Porter, though I think both Gafford and Garland will be gone after the lottery, so it has to be Kings and Memphis pick for them.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#169 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:48 pm

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robdog_5 wrote:Watching some Duke vs SDSU. From San Diego so I try to check out the Aztecs. Barrett is so smooth man. Zion is gonna be an elite rebounder such a quick jumper and so strong.

McDaniels against other top notch talent hasn't been great but has flashed.

Pretty sure I saw Danny watching


Danny has been at Maui for every game. McDaniels went off yesterday. Demanding the ball in crunch time coming from behind. Danny had to love that.

Big game for Rui Hachimura vs Duke today. He'll probably be right there around the Kings pick. I think if you come out of the draft with say Rui/McDaniels/Garland and maybe Simi S/Bassey/Gafford/Jaylen Smith you have the best young core in the league..


Best outcome if we have 3 picks or more is Garland/Gafford/Jontay Porter, though I think both Gafford and Garland will be gone after the lottery, so it has to be Kings and Memphis pick for them.


Not a fan of Rui or Bassey as potential contributers.
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Post#170 » by JHTruth » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:03 pm

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Danny has been at Maui for every game. McDaniels went off yesterday. Demanding the ball in crunch time coming from behind. Danny had to love that.

Big game for Rui Hachimura vs Duke today. He'll probably be right there around the Kings pick. I think if you come out of the draft with say Rui/McDaniels/Garland and maybe Simi S/Bassey/Gafford/Jaylen Smith you have the best young core in the league..


Best outcome if we have 3 picks or more is Garland/Gafford/Jontay Porter, though I think both Gafford and Garland will be gone after the lottery, so it has to be Kings and Memphis pick for them.


Not a fan of Rui or Bassey as potential contributers.


Yeah I like them a lot more than Jontay, who I don't care for at all, especially with his injury for a guy who wasn't athletic to begin with.

Definitely need to add frontcourt talent. I just love Garland as a PGOTF and I love McDaniels. Gafford is probably my favorite C candidate. Just need one more guy..
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Post#171 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:08 pm

Yeah, I'm the biggest Garland fan there is. If he continues like this, is the next player I want with the Kings pick after Zion, Little, Cam, RJ (in that order).

Gafford might lack in some areas (his feel for the game is not that spectacular) but is right what the Celtics need, and he definitely cares, unlike RWIII.
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Post#172 » by JHTruth » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:11 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Yeah, I'm the biggest Garland fan there is. If he continues like this, is the next player I want with the Kings pick after Zion, Little, Cam, RJ (in that order).

Gafford might lack in some areas (his feel for the game is not that spectacular) but is right what the Celtics need, and he definitely cares, unlike RWIII.


I don't that's fair to RW3 at all but I can see how one would really like Gafford. I just think we need some offensive talent badly in the FC..
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Post#173 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:16 pm

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big-shot-ROB wrote:Yeah, I'm the biggest Garland fan there is. If he continues like this, is the next player I want with the Kings pick after Zion, Little, Cam, RJ (in that order).

Gafford might lack in some areas (his feel for the game is not that spectacular) but is right what the Celtics need, and he definitely cares, unlike RWIII.


I don't that's fair to RW3 at all but I can see how one would really like Gafford. I just think we need some offensive talent badly in the FC..


I like to put a lot of emphasis in players personality. Smart's type of emotion bodes well for me in a player. What they do offcourt too.

Example: I tend to think Oubre might not improve much more thab what he is right now because he seems to care the same for clothes and the game.

Same with Hezonja, who never cared at all.
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Post#174 » by JHTruth » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:46 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
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big-shot-ROB wrote:Yeah, I'm the biggest Garland fan there is. If he continues like this, is the next player I want with the Kings pick after Zion, Little, Cam, RJ (in that order).

Gafford might lack in some areas (his feel for the game is not that spectacular) but is right what the Celtics need, and he definitely cares, unlike RWIII.


I don't that's fair to RW3 at all but I can see how one would really like Gafford. I just think we need some offensive talent badly in the FC..


I like to put a lot of emphasis in players personality. Smart's type of emotion bodes well for me in a player. What they do offcourt too.

Example: I tend to think Oubre might not improve much more thab what he is right now because he seems to care the same for clothes and the game.

Same with Hezonja, who never cared at all.


But Smart isn't that great. Defensive specialist off the bench picked 6th? Need talent too
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Post#175 » by NuckyPowell » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:02 pm

This Rui Hachimura kid from Gonzaga is one to watch. He looks really good against Duke. Frankly, their whole team does (at the half). NBADraft.net has him mocked around where Sac may end up.
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Post#176 » by NuckyPowell » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:55 pm

This Duke - Gonzaga game is tremendous. RJ Barrett is a **** beast.
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Post#177 » by JHTruth » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:22 pm

Another name to watch is this Jaxson Hayes at Texas. Kid is a late-to-the-sport type who dominated UNC inside. Looks like a surefire lotto pick..
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Post#178 » by jmr07019 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:39 pm

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Post#179 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:13 pm

We definitely need to do something with those picks (get rid of them minus the sac pick). This draft class is looking horrible, we do not want to end up in a similar situation as 2016.
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Post#180 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:16 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:We definitely need to do something with those picks (get rid of them minus the sac pick). This draft class is looking horrible, we do not want to end up in a similar situation as 2016.


Which is funny given that Deyonta Davis landed us the Memphis pick, which if not for this weak and Memphis hot streak should have decent value.
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