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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1901 » by sam_I_am » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:42 pm

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scootch wrote:I am kind of bristling at the idea this is a BAD draft as is stated over and over and over. It's not a bad draft, it's just not uber-talented in the lottery. There are going to be a lot of REALLY good players taken here, even if they become "just" role players. We need role players now, especially if we commit to the J's doing their thing. They are going to get expensive soon, and cheap contracts for quality role players is gonna be the way we win through depth.


I like this draft. It’s a great draft to have three low picks as the Cs do.

There will be players available at 22 who’ll be better than a lot of the top 10. A lot of people who will play in the league a long time. People like Cam Johnson or NAW or Grant Williams will be around a while. And there are lottery tickets like Bol and Porter. Should be a fun night no matter what happens.


Bol, Porter and Cam would be an interesting draft for sure.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1902 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:46 pm

Who have the Cs worked out? I haven’t been paying as close attention this year
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1903 » by sam_I_am » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:48 pm

sully00 wrote:
scootch wrote:I am kind of bristling at the idea this is a BAD draft as is stated over and over and over. It's not a bad draft, it's just not uber-talented in the lottery. There are going to be a lot of REALLY good players taken here, even if they become "just" role players. We need role players now, especially if we commit to the J's doing their thing. They are going to get expensive soon, and cheap contracts for quality role players is gonna be the way we win through depth.


Because it is a bad draft you know it is a bad draft when guys projected to go in the 20's are also being talked about in the top 10. Your point is true there are going to be some good players coming out of the draft but they are incredibly hard to identify in this group.

The idea of "role" players sounds great and if your drafting a college upperclassmen late in first round that you project can step in and play NBA mins even though they have limited upside great. If your drafting a 19 year old in the lottery that it is going to take 3 years to develop and still only think they are going to have limited upside that sucks.

Too much late first round talent is going to bleed into the lottery in this draft. That makes me fine with moving #14 in a trade for a real player or trading down or out of this draft. If we stay at #14 give me the guy with big upside and injury questions or other concerns.


In support of your belief that this draft sucks is how many rumors there are of teams looking to trade away picks and how few teams are looking to acquire them.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1904 » by sully00 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:30 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
Smog wrote:
scootch wrote:I am kind of bristling at the idea this is a BAD draft as is stated over and over and over. It's not a bad draft, it's just not uber-talented in the lottery. There are going to be a lot of REALLY good players taken here, even if they become "just" role players. We need role players now, especially if we commit to the J's doing their thing. They are going to get expensive soon, and cheap contracts for quality role players is gonna be the way we win through depth.


I like this draft. It’s a great draft to have three low picks as the Cs do.

There will be players available at 22 who’ll be better than a lot of the top 10. A lot of people who will play in the league a long time. People like Cam Johnson or NAW or Grant Williams will be around a while. And there are lottery tickets like Bol and Porter. Should be a fun night no matter what happens.


Bol, Porter and Cam would be an interesting draft for sure.

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1905 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:46 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Who have the Cs worked out? I haven’t been paying as close attention this year


Tried to workout PJ Washington a second time. Worked out a ton once.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1906 » by ajones9219 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:21 pm

With New York officially going for Barrett, Id be all over moving up for Garland
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1907 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:23 pm

ajones9219 wrote:With New York officially going for Barrett, Id be all over moving up for Garland

I love Garland But the pelicans would want a lot to move up to 4.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1908 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:27 pm

ajones9219 wrote:With New York officially going for Barrett, Id be all over moving up for Garland

Baaaarffff.

Probably take JB or the Griz pick to get there, i'll give up neither for the 4th pick.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1909 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:30 pm

What if you're dealing Jaylen for Lonzo/4 and taking Barrett? (Rumors Knicks are thinking about Garland)

Lonzo/Barrett/Hayward/Tatum/Baynes, Smart off the bench.. add Capela and a couple of rookies and you have an interesting group to develop.. Hayward is likely to be, like Horford, a good veteran presence.
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Post#1910 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:36 pm

There's also a scenario where Garland goes third, Atlanta trades the 8 and 10 to take Culver fourth, and we can get Barrett and Tristan Thompson's money for Jaylen/Yabu.. Thompson is a flawed Horford replacement, but he's only got a year on his contract and you might be able to flip him for a different big..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1911 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:37 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:There's also a scenario where Garland goes third, Atlanta trades the 8 and 10 to take Culver fourth, and we can get Barrett and Tristan Thompson's money for Jaylen/Yabu.. Thompson is a flawed Horford replacement, but he's only got a year on his contract and you might be able to flip him for a different big..

Except a reliable news article just came out saying the knicks are locked in on Barrett.....
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1912 » by BillessuR6 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:37 pm

I want Garland as well. We can take on Hill and Moore contracts if Pelicans want to go after a big FA...
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1913 » by ajones9219 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:44 pm

I am not huge on parting with Brown but I would do Brown/Yabs for Lonzo/4. Trade Smart for Capella and you can roll

Lonzo
Garland
Hayward
Tatum
Capella

You then have plenty of cap to fill out the bench. Maybe see if Morris wants to roll back for a decent rate
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1914 » by LuckyLeprechaun » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:44 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:What if you're dealing Jaylen for Lonzo/4 and taking Barrett? (Rumors Knicks are thinking about Garland)

Lonzo/Barrett/Hayward/Tatum/Baynes, Smart off the bench.. add Capela and a couple of rookies and you have an interesting group to develop.. Hayward is likely to be, like Horford, a good veteran presence.
I don't want Lonzo's poor shooting net negative self, nor his locker room cancer of a dad anywhere near the Celtics.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1915 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:53 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:There's also a scenario where Garland goes third, Atlanta trades the 8 and 10 to take Culver fourth, and we can get Barrett and Tristan Thompson's money for Jaylen/Yabu.. Thompson is a flawed Horford replacement, but he's only got a year on his contract and you might be able to flip him for a different big..

Except a reliable news article just came out saying the knicks are locked in on Barrett.....


Hadn't seen that.. maybe they'll still find a way to Knick it up.. or maybe if you dangle Terry Rozier in a sign and trade with Jaylen they'd send us Barrett..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1916 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:55 pm

LuckyLeprechaun wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:What if you're dealing Jaylen for Lonzo/4 and taking Barrett? (Rumors Knicks are thinking about Garland)

Lonzo/Barrett/Hayward/Tatum/Baynes, Smart off the bench.. add Capela and a couple of rookies and you have an interesting group to develop.. Hayward is likely to be, like Horford, a good veteran presence.
I don't want Lonzo's poor shooting net negative self, nor his locker room cancer of a dad anywhere near the Celtics.


You could always flip him, he has enough of a market around the league.. Probably New Orleans wouldn't go above a straight 4/Jaylen swap, anyway..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1917 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:56 pm

ajones9219 wrote:I am not huge on parting with Brown but I would do Brown/Yabs for Lonzo/4. Trade Smart for Capella and you can roll

Lonzo
Garland
Hayward
Tatum
Capella

You then have plenty of cap to fill out the bench. Maybe see if Morris wants to roll back for a decent rate


You'd have more than enough cap space to trade for Capela without dealing Smart, or having to match salary..
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Post#1918 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:58 pm

The Horford news is probably enough of a curveball that we could at least justify dealing Baynes to a contender - for Capela with a pick, or for Adams with a pick coming back..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1919 » by ajones9219 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:01 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:I am not huge on parting with Brown but I would do Brown/Yabs for Lonzo/4. Trade Smart for Capella and you can roll

Lonzo
Garland
Hayward
Tatum
Capella

You then have plenty of cap to fill out the bench. Maybe see if Morris wants to roll back for a decent rate


You'd have more than enough cap space to trade for Capela without dealing Smart, or having to match salary..


Yeah I just meant if you didn't want to hurt our cap space. You could do that and have him as our sixth man with Baynes and Williams. Maybe try to get Morris back or find some more scoring for the bench
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1920 » by ZeroTolerance » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:08 pm

sully00 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Smog wrote:

I like this draft. It’s a great draft to have three low picks as the Cs do.

There will be players available at 22 who’ll be better than a lot of the top 10. A lot of people who will play in the league a long time. People like Cam Johnson or NAW or Grant Williams will be around a while. And there are lottery tickets like Bol and Porter. Should be a fun night no matter what happens.


Bol, Porter and Cam would be an interesting draft for sure.

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I watched Bol in a game atmosphere during the combines...He looked super slow and very awkward to me..The others were just crawling around him like ants...Often times he never made it across center court on defense by the time the opposition had already taken their shot...BIG NO on Bol Bol!

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