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Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019

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Re: Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019 

Post#1841 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:49 am

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:D-Lo comes with more risk, but if he can improve on defense he could be better than Kyrie in three years - I think the Nets are starf****** and making a mistake ..


If al takes 15 per and we renounce rozier and Morris how much space do we have


Around 15 or so.
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Post#1842 » by CSL_1904 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:06 pm

Tank! Please. The sooner we accept that's the only way to go, the better.
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Post#1843 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:06 pm

IlCapitano wrote:Does anyone have an idea how much money is Morris going to command?

I don’t but I can guess. At least 10 million/year. Maybe even a long term deal around the 3/36 or 4/48 side. Seems teams have a lot of space this year so more wouldn’t surprise me. Also I would t be surprised if he tries to tag onto a good team at the MLE.
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Post#1844 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:12 pm

robdog_5 wrote:Has smitty answered if sign and trades even work anymore?


He acknowledged they work in theory, but he believes that teams won't choose to deal with the delays and complications they entail.
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Post#1845 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:21 pm

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robdog_5 wrote:Has smitty answered if sign and trades even work anymore?


He acknowledged they work in theory, but he believes that teams won't choose to deal with the delays and complications they entail.

Also of note, the receiving team is hard capped. In the DAR for Kyrie fantasy both teams would be hardcapped.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019 

Post#1846 » by Darthlukey » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:57 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:D-Lo comes with more risk, but if he can improve on defense he could be better than Kyrie in three years - I think the Nets are starf****** and making a mistake ..


If al takes 15 per and we renounce rozier and Morris how much space do we have


Around 15 or so.

Sign and trade Kyrie for dlo. Send them a late 1st to make it worth the nets while
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Post#1847 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:03 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
If al takes 15 per and we renounce rozier and Morris how much space do we have


Around 15 or so.

Sign and trade Kyrie for dlo. Send them a late 1st to make it worth the nets while


Nets and Celtics both wont want to be hard capped.
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Post#1848 » by winsomme2 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:11 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Around 15 or so.

Sign and trade Kyrie for dlo. Send them a late 1st to make it worth the nets while


Nets and Celtics both wont want to be hard capped.


D Russell is one of the most under the radar big time FAs that I can think of. This guy is about to step into his prime and there is very little talk of him around the league.

Maybe some think last season was a fluke, I guess.

I would def take him, but I don't see a pathway. If I were the Knicks, I would def offer max money to him.
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Post#1849 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:15 pm

Conley / Brown / Tatum / Horford / Baynes
Smart / Matthews / Hayward / Ojeleye / Williams

Memphis would have to trade Conley for Yabusele, #14, and their own pick back. Nothing else lol.
Horford would have to agree to play for the tax MLE lol.
Matthews (or whoever) signs for the BAE.
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Post#1850 » by Festurs » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:16 pm

I know he is restricted but Malcolm Brondon would be the most under the radar pick up someone could make. He seems legit
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Post#1851 » by Darthlukey » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:20 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Conley / Brown / Tatum / Horford / Baynes
Smart / Matthews / Hayward / Ojeleye / Williams

Memphis would have to trade Conley for Yabusele, #14, and their own pick back. Nothing else lol.
Horford would have to agree to play for the tax MLE lol.
Matthews (or whoever) signs for the BAE.

Does the salary work in that deal? Also, I think it's either Memphis or 14, not both
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Post#1852 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:22 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Conley / Brown / Tatum / Horford / Baynes
Smart / Matthews / Hayward / Ojeleye / Williams

Memphis would have to trade Conley for Yabusele, #14, and their own pick back. Nothing else lol.
Horford would have to agree to play for the tax MLE lol.
Matthews (or whoever) signs for the BAE.

Does the salary work in that deal? Also, I think it's either Memphis or 14, not both

Fit Conley into cap space. No need for salaries to match. We'd have to renounce all our FAs.
I think it's too light if it's only their own pick back without a young prospect coming their way.
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Post#1853 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
If al takes 15 per and we renounce rozier and Morris how much space do we have


Around 15 or so.

Sign and trade Kyrie for dlo. Send them a late 1st to make it worth the nets while


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Re: Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019 

Post#1854 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:28 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Conley / Brown / Tatum / Horford / Baynes
Smart / Matthews / Hayward / Ojeleye / Williams

Memphis would have to trade Conley for Yabusele, #14, and their own pick back. Nothing else lol.
Horford would have to agree to play for the tax MLE lol.
Matthews (or whoever) signs for the BAE.

Does the salary work in that deal? Also, I think it's either Memphis or 14, not both

Fit Conley into cap space. No need for salaries to match. We'd have to renounce all our FAs.
I think it's too light if it's only their own pick back without a young prospect coming their way.


Chase after Kemba in FA. Keep all assets. Again, Horford has to sign for the MLE lol.
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Post#1855 » by RickyDizzle » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:07 pm

If you do any of these ideas where we renounce everyone and make deal with capspace, do we lose ability to use exceptions after?
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Post#1856 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:13 pm

RickyDizzle wrote:If you do any of these ideas where we renounce everyone and make deal with capspace, do we lose ability to use exceptions after?

Ooh, that's right. We can only use the room exception. So yeah, scrap the idea. Not that Horford was gonna go for MLE.
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Post#1857 » by IlCapitano » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:14 pm

Festurs wrote:I know he is restricted but Malcolm Brondon would be the most under the radar pick up someone could make. He seems legit

Nothing under the radar about him. Every podcast I listen and every article I read fans and bloggers are talking about their team offering him a big deal. Him and Dedmon.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019 

Post#1858 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:41 pm

DLO is young and has a lot of potential but I’m willing to bet a lot of fans here who kill kyrie would HATE russell after a year. His shot selection is horrible- can shoot you out of as many games as he wins you.

I know the thought- all the kyrie scoring ability without all the kyrie drama. “He’s young enough to learn how to play D” I’m telling you the fan base would turn on him within 18 months just as quickly.
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Post#1859 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:44 pm

I hate DLo already. Stay away, Danny. Not that there's a realistic path to get him here anyway. He's Kyrie -2.0.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019 

Post#1860 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:47 pm

Dlo is like Kyrie except hes significantly worse at basketball

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