Sophmores, 2020-21 – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko

[Parliament10]

Romeo Langford touts revamped shooting form
By Jeff Clark@celticsblog | Jul 19, 2020, 1:27pm EDT



https://www.celticsblog.com/2020/7/19/21330331/romeo-langford-touts-revamped-shooting-form-boston-celtics-rookie

The Celtics selected Romeo Langford 14th in the NBA draft because they have high hopes for him. He’s a talented driver and started earning playing time with his defense before the shutdown. However, the most commonly sighted limitation in his game is his shooting. Much of that was blamed on a shooting motion that most believed was less than ideal. It is a small sample size, but he’s shooting just 21.7% (5-23) from 3 point range this season so far.

As a result, Romeo has spent the year (and in particular the season stoppage quasi-offseason) working with Assistant Coach Joe Mazzulla to rebuild his jumper.

MassLive reports that he’s happy with his progress.

A year later, Langford said his jumper has improved dramatically — so much so that relapsing into his old form is unlikely even after a long layoff due to the coronavirus pandemic that forced the NBA to suspend its season.

“I worked on it so much with Joe, it’s hard for me to fall back into where I would normally shoot,” Langford told reporters via Zoom on Friday. “I may shoot like one, two here and there like my old jumper but really it’s never a problem any more. It’s more fluid, it’s more natural to me now, so it’s much easier.”

The Celtics could definitely use someone with Langford’s skillset to contribute off the bench, in particular if he can at least be a threat from long range. It remains to be seen if Romeo will see action in the playoffs if the team is at full strength. However, you never know when additional depth will be needed.

Personally I’ve always seen Romeo as a long term investment but it wouldn’t hurt to see some early dividends as well.

[BostonCouchGM]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

[themoneyteam2]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

[Parliament10]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

Bol Bol, has been injured all season, and hasn't played Any NBA games.
He's only played 8 G-League games; and has Never started. (He's on a Two-Way contract.)

Today was a small sample size.
I'll take all 4 of our Drafted Rookies over him.

[Dogen]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

Bol Bol, has been injured all season, and hasn't played Any NBA games.
He's only played 8 G-League games; and has Never started. (He's on a Two-Way contract.)

Today was a small sample size.
I'll take all 4 of our Drafted Rookies over him.

Bol looked quite good at times out there. Now, can he keep that up during an actual season and stay healthy?

I did think some team would have taken him well before 40, maybe early second round since he was injured. Not sure about first round with the guaranteed contract. Definitely was hoping at 51 where Waters was taken, and I like Waters.

[BostonCouchGM]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

[themoneyteam2]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

It was the same thing at Oregon. Has these highlight plays that make the general twitter fan salivate, but if you watch the whole game, he's incredibly frustrating on multiple fronts. Can't really guard one-on-one, bad shot selection, turnover prone, and too weak right now. And if you think he can defend in space then I quite frankly have no idea what you're watching when that's his single biggest issue on defense lol. If he could actually defend and space and be great mobility wise, he wouldn't have been a 2nd round pick, pal.

Wait did you really just knock Ainge for picking Robert Williams over Kendrick Nunn who went undrafted? You didn’t even know who the hell Nunn was in 2018 lmao. I would pay to see your reaction if they picked another PG in Nunn in the 1st round who was projected to go undrafted which is why he did...

Lol you’re kidding right? This revisionist history is hilarious. Bol Bol’s medicals was why he dropped. Just like why Robert Williams fell to 27. Jusr like why MPJ went 14 to DEN when he was clearly top 5 pick if no concerns about injuries.

But yes keep telling yourself how Ainge should have picked a PG who you didn’t even know of and who wasn’t even projected to get picked instead of Williams who fell into their lap after being a borderline lock for top 20.

[Saint Lazarus]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

You should apply for a front office position with the Celtics. Someone with your eye for talent would be a hot commodity in the NBA.

[themoneyteam2]

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

You should apply for a front office position with the Celtics. Someone with your eye for talent would be a hot commodity in the NBA.

He'd be great! He of course would've picked Giannis if he were a GM. Easy to tell he was gonna be a future MVP but there are just a slew of GM's like Ainge who think they're smarter than they are. He of course would've picked Kendrick Nunn too since it was easy to tell he'd be this good. It's just that every team passed on him for some reason and he went undrafted. He would've picked Nunn in the first round of course.

I'm just crying laughing because I can't even imagine his reaction if Ainge picked Nunn at #27 when Robert Williams and Mitchell Robinson were still on the board. Williams was a top 15 talent but had injury and desire concerns and it was pretty unanimous to everyone that it was a great value pick. Just imagine if he added yet another PG, that nobody had heard of, to that roster with those two big men still on the board

[Parliament10]

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

You should apply for a front office position with the Celtics. Someone with your eye for talent would be a hot commodity in the NBA.

He'd be great! He of course would've picked Giannis if he were a GM. Easy to tell he was gonna be a future MVP but there are just a slew of GM's like Ainge who think they're smarter than they are. He of course would've picked Kendrick Nunn too since it was easy to tell he'd be this good. It's just that every team passed on him for some reason and he went undrafted. He would've picked Nunn in the first round of course.

I'm just crying laughing because I can't even imagine his reaction if Ainge picked Nunn at #27 when Robert Williams and Mitchell Robinson were still on the board. Williams was a top 15 talent but had injury and desire concerns and it was pretty unanimous to everyone that it was a great value pick. Just imagine if he added yet another PG, that nobody had heard of, to that roster with those two big men still on the board

OK, Guys. Keep this away from being a Personal Attack.

~ Parl

[bucknersrevenge]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

There’s a reason Bol Bol wasn’t picked until the 40s bud. It was because of his medical concerns and durability/physicality, as well as his reportedly underwhelming interviews/background where teams questioned his work ethic and desire. Not to mention lack of mobility on defense.
Don’t ask him to move in space/change direction or closeout (frankly, step outside the paint), and you’re golden. That would require changing your whole defensive scheme when he’s in.

But hey, if you are clowning Ainge for not taking him based off him putting up 16/10/6 in a glorified pick up game then go for it. He had 16 pts on 16 shot possessions w/ 5 TOs while playing pretty poorly overall on defense. This kind of hype machine isn’t helping anything, nor is it accurate.

yes, that reason is there are a slew of G.M.s and decision makers, like Danny Ainge, in the NBA, who think they're smarter than they are and are terrible at drafting. You clearly haven't watched Bol play if you think he can't defend in space because not only can he do this already, or at least at a level anyone else his size can, but news flash, he's not a finished product and can improve in that area. And thanks to his 7'9" wingspan he is more capable of improving at pretty much every facet of the game should he apply himself. That reach, can't be taught. That height, feel for the game, shooting stroke, and instincts on defense at 7'2" can't be taught either....bud.

And just because there are other equally terrible drafting G.M.s in the league, does not absolve Danny for being terrible on draft night. It'd be one thing if Bol was the only potential big contributor that Danny passed on once, twice, and even three times in the 2019 draft, but he's not. There's also Bazley, Little, Claxton, Roby, McDaniels, and Reid who all have good size, length, and skill at above average NBA levels unlike Danny's picks. And it's not like 2019 is the only draft this happens in. It's almost every single one it seems. It's passing on Siakam three times and Brogdon five in 2016. It's passing on Jokic, Dinwiddie, Bogdonovic, and Capela for James Young in 2014. It's passing on Mitchell Robinson and Nunn for Williams. Oh my God! Danny hit on top 3 picks. All is forgiven! Nah, because imagine if, on top of hitting on picks in loaded drafts like Tatum's, he ALSO drafted potential starters to surround him with instead of bench fodder. Wouldn't that be nice?

[themoneyteam2]

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I think he’s gonna be a really good rotation player next year.

[Elrod is Back]

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I think he’s gonna be a really good rotation player next year.

A year ago the hot take on Langford was that he was a scorer who couldn't shoot and who couldn't defend. Attitude, work ethic and bball IQ were compared to James Young. We can cross "can't defend" off the list, as well as anything to do with James Young. I think the scoring will be fine too as soon as next year, and the 3-point shooting will come along gradually until he is decent by his fourth season.

What jumps out is the feel for the game he has, which Brad repeatedly mentions. He should get rotation minutes next year and that will really let him develop.

It is also worth remembering that Romeo may not be a freak by NBA standards, but his physical assets are considerable and border-line elite. 6-4 1/2 barefoot with a 6-11 wingspan. Weights 215 and he looks slender. In a few years with good weight training this guy is going to be a powerful dude and may well become quicker, too.

[Bleeding Green]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

Can you imagine how much better the Celtics would be if they had been able to add Bol Bol's 8 career points to the roster? Ainge **** up again.

[Homerclease]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

Can you imagine how much better the Celtics would be if they had been able to add Bol Bol's 8 career points to the roster? Ainge **** up again.

Not necessarily Bol Bol but the rest of his point does kinda stand. Langford needs to develop some sort of a jumper to stick in the league, Grant is an undersized 4 that also has a long way to go on his outside shot and Edwards flashed early, otherwise has been a total flop.

[Bleeding Green]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

Can you imagine how much better the Celtics would be if they had been able to add Bol Bol's 8 career points to the roster? Ainge **** up again.

Not necessarily Bol Bol but the rest of his point does kinda stand. Langford needs to develop some sort of a jumper to stick in the league, Grant is an undersized 4 that also has a long way to go on his outside shot and Edwards flashed early, otherwise has been a total flop.

Langford looks **** amazing to me, super high ceiling offensively and he's so quick, long, active defensively. Got him for free, too. At worst he never develops a jumper and he's like Andre Roberson or something.

Is there anyone drafted after Grant that is significantly better besides Clarke? After Carsen Edwards? People have this insane idea that Ainge is missing out on elite talent all over the place. I see some interesting players like Bazley, KPJ, Gafford, Paschall that maybe you could have taken instead of Grant or Edwards, but I'm not taking anyone over Langford in a redraft right now. Maybe Brandon Clarke. Bol Bol looks fun, but he's played 284 total minutes in college and the NBA so far and was drafted 44th overall.

The assertion that Romeo Langford is just some shooting guard that they don't need is insane. Yeah his jumper needs to improve. Every single draftee needs to improve something to be effective save for guys drafted #1 overall generally.

[Red2]

Carsen Edwards could still turn into a solid pro but he’s been a disappointment so far . The one thing I thought he could do was hit 3’s but he is still struggling with his shot

[BostonCouchGM]

As a reminder. We took a SG who can't shoot and that we didn't need (Langford), a 6'5" PF (Williams) and a 5'11" SG (Edwards) over Bol Bol. Yes. That actually did happen. And people still try to argue that Danny is a good drafter

Can you imagine how much better the Celtics would be if they had been able to add Bol Bol's 8 career points to the roster? Ainge **** up again.

MPJ with another gem 27-12-2
Bol keeps getting more comfortable and playing major minutes with 9-5.
By all means keep defending the picks while other teams get prime talent to drop to them because Danny can't draft. And yes, I CAN imagine how excited this board would be if Bol was currently playing and showing his ability instead of scrubs with no upside on our bench

[BostonCouchGM]

Can you imagine how much better the Celtics would be if they had been able to add Bol Bol's 8 career points to the roster? Ainge **** up again.

Not necessarily Bol Bol but the rest of his point does kinda stand. Langford needs to develop some sort of a jumper to stick in the league, Grant is an undersized 4 that also has a long way to go on his outside shot and Edwards flashed early, otherwise has been a total flop.

Langford looks **** amazing to me, super high ceiling offensively and he's so quick, long, active defensively. Got him for free, too. At worst he never develops a jumper and he's like Andre Roberson or something.

Is there anyone drafted after Grant that is significantly better besides Clarke? After Carsen Edwards? People have this insane idea that Ainge is missing out on elite talent all over the place. I see some interesting players like Bazley, KPJ, Gafford, Paschall that maybe you could have taken instead of Grant or Edwards, but I'm not taking anyone over Langford in a redraft right now. Maybe Brandon Clarke. Bol Bol looks fun, but he's played 284 total minutes in college and the NBA so far and was drafted 44th overall.

The assertion that Romeo Langford is just some shooting guard that they don't need is insane. Yeah his jumper needs to improve. Every single draftee needs to improve something to be effective save for guys drafted #1 overall generally.

my bad. I thought you knew at least a little about draft prospects and how this rookie class has performed. Now I know better. To answer your question, yes, there will be around 10+ players who will end up having equal or better careers and they were taken much later.

Bazley
Little
Porter Jr.
Claxton
Paschall
Bol
Roby
McDaniels
Reid
Davis

And what most have in common is average or better size and length for their position. Something Danny seems to avoid like the plague.

[themoneyteam2]

Not necessarily Bol Bol but the rest of his point does kinda stand. Langford needs to develop some sort of a jumper to stick in the league, Grant is an undersized 4 that also has a long way to go on his outside shot and Edwards flashed early, otherwise has been a total flop.

Langford looks **** amazing to me, super high ceiling offensively and he's so quick, long, active defensively. Got him for free, too. At worst he never develops a jumper and he's like Andre Roberson or something.

Is there anyone drafted after Grant that is significantly better besides Clarke? After Carsen Edwards? People have this insane idea that Ainge is missing out on elite talent all over the place. I see some interesting players like Bazley, KPJ, Gafford, Paschall that maybe you could have taken instead of Grant or Edwards, but I'm not taking anyone over Langford in a redraft right now. Maybe Brandon Clarke. Bol Bol looks fun, but he's played 284 total minutes in college and the NBA so far and was drafted 44th overall.

The assertion that Romeo Langford is just some shooting guard that they don't need is insane. Yeah his jumper needs to improve. Every single draftee needs to improve something to be effective save for guys drafted #1 overall generally.

my bad. I thought you knew at least a little about draft prospects and how this rookie class has performed. Now I know better. To answer your question, yes, there will be around 10+ players who will end up having equal or better careers and they were taken much later.

Bazley
Little
Porter Jr.
Claxton
Paschall
Bol
Roby
McDaniels
Reid
Davis

And what most have in common is average or better size and length for their position. Something Danny seems to avoid like the plague.

It's funny because if Ainge picked any of those guys other than Bol Bol at 22, you would have lost it. Grant was 2x SEC POY. I'm pretty sure he can play. But if you're going to project careers based off of 60 career games then it's not worth having a discussion.

And btw, all those guys on that list suck so far other than Paschall and KPJ and they look good since they played on two bottom 5 teams.