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Who Starts next to Kemba and a C, out of Hayward, Brown, Smart and Tatum?

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Who of the 4 starts?

Poll runs till Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:52 am

All 4
2
2%
Tatum, Hayward, Brown
70
68%
Tatum, Hayward, Smart
13
13%
Tatum, Brown, Smart
10
10%
Hayward, Brown,Smart
0
No votes
Tatum and Brown
4
4%
Tatum and Hayward
1
1%
Tatum and Smart
1
1%
Brown and Hayward
0
No votes
Hayward and Smart
2
2%
 
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Re: Who Starts next to Kemba and a C, out of Hayward, Brown, Smart and Tatum? 

Post#61 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:42 am

Gant wrote:One way to look at this question is to ask a different one, which is... Who will run the team when Kemba goes out?

It seems like Smart is the easiest choice for that, as he's a very good floor general. Maybe Hayward could do it, but Hayward as a main distributor seems like more of a short minute gimmick. So probably Smart will come off the bench a lot. Realistically, who else is there to back up Walker?


Having said that, you'd think the starting group will be constantly changing according to health, matchups, and who's earned it.


I'd extend to asking who the whole base-case lineup is without Kemba. My first thought is:

Kanter (scoring, rebounding)
Tatum (scoring, team defense)
Brown (4th-option scoring, man defense)
Smart (ball-handling, defense)
Edwards (scoring, ball-handling)

Of course, with a Walker/Edwards swap, that could be the starting lineup too.

Basically, if you're going to play both Kanter and a defensively-questionable PG, then you want your three other guys to be good defenders. And if you're aiming for that and you're still suspicious of Hayward's defense, then probably when Hayward and Kanter are on the court together, the other guys should be Smart plus two other reliable defenders.
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Re: Who Starts next to Kemba and a C, out of Hayward, Brown, Smart and Tatum? 

Post#62 » by Parliament10 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:58 am

I'm much more confident of Tatum being the Celtics' Starting 4. After watching him Train on Team USA.
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Post#63 » by LloydFree » Yesterday 8:43 pm

Crossing my fingers, they start Hayward and bench Brown in his contract year, so the chemistry issues continue.
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Post#64 » by Parliament10 » Yesterday 8:53 pm

LloydFree wrote:Crossing my fingers, they start Hayward and bench Brown in his contract year, so the chemistry issues continue.

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Re: Who Starts next to Kemba and a C, out of Hayward, Brown, Smart and Tatum? 

Post#65 » by cloverleaf » 9 minutes ago

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Gant wrote:One way to look at this question is to ask a different one, which is... Who will run the team when Kemba goes out?

It seems like Smart is the easiest choice for that, as he's a very good floor general. Maybe Hayward could do it, but Hayward as a main distributor seems like more of a short minute gimmick. So probably Smart will come off the bench a lot. Realistically, who else is there to back up Walker?


Having said that, you'd think the starting group will be constantly changing according to health, matchups, and who's earned it.


I'd extend to asking who the whole base-case lineup is without Kemba. My first thought is:

Kanter (scoring, rebounding)
Tatum (scoring, team defense)
Brown (4th-option scoring, man defense)
Smart (ball-handling, defense)
Edwards (scoring, ball-handling)

Of course, with a Walker/Edwards swap, that could be the starting lineup too.

Basically, if you're going to play both Kanter and a defensively-questionable PG, then you want your three other guys to be good defenders. And if you're aiming for that and you're still suspicious of Hayward's defense, then probably when Hayward and Kanter are on the court together, the other guys should be Smart plus two other reliable defenders.


I don't think Edwards is ready for that. I'd put Smart in for Walker if no Walker, and keep Brown, Gordo and Tatum in there with Kanter, at least early in the season. That is defensively better than Edwards aas a rook in there. And if you think you need someone who can stick with the opponent's PG a little better, than Wanamaker could be the surprise start.

Don't get me wrong--I like Edwards and think he's a rotation player from the start, but off the bench with Smart paired with him.

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