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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Langford (R.Wrist-Cast) 

Post#1341 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:10 pm

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:No expert by any means but knee followed by injection does not sound great.

This is a really bad look for Kemba.
He's had a lot of time to heal that knee. It's Chronic at this point.
Might be time for him to hang it up.


We could tell he was not right during the playoffs and it is concerning, like you said, because he has not played in nearly 2 months. Have to wonder how the celtics missed this when they signed him.

What is more concerning is that this is just year two of four and he is owed 107m still. Have to assume there is no way in hell he opts out in 2023 where is he is owed 37m either.

This may end up being disastrous and wastes 3 years of JB and Tatum.
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Post#1343 » by Afam » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:13 pm

Not good news at all. For the first time, I am going to say that the Celtics should trade Kemba Walker.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1344 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:14 pm

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Hornets dumped him at the right time.


How the hell did the Celtics miss this?

I guess we cannot bash the Hornets overpaying for Hayward when the Celtics may have an albatross contract in Walker. At this point I would rather have an injury prone Hayward than a guy owed 107m with knees that are shot.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1345 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:16 pm

Afam wrote:Not good news at all. For the first time, I am going to say that the Celtics should trade Kemba Walker.


They tried apparently. Between his contract and knees he is untradeable. Cs are stuck with him.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Langford (R.Wrist-Cast) 

Post#1346 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:17 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:No expert by any means but knee followed by injection does not sound great.

This is a really bad look for Kemba.
He's had a lot of time to heal that knee. It's Chronic at this point.
Might be time for him to hang it up.


We could tell he was not right during the playoffs and it is concerning, like you said, because he has not played in nearly 2 months. Have to wonder how the celtics missed this when they signed him.

What is more concerning is that this is just year two of four and he is owed 107m still. Have to assume there is no way in hell he opts out in 2023 where is he is owed 37m either.

This may end up being disastrous and wastes 3 years of JB and Tatum.


To be honest, I think he’d still be great in a LouWill role off the bench for 25 MPG. Not worth the money but still a very important role.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1347 » by VeryMuchWoke » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:18 pm

This is not bad news. We already knew his knee was a bit janky from his playoff performance. Regenerative therapy and a shortened season for Kemba will likely be just what he needs to have a good year. One good year and he won't be a problem moving for cap space should the team target a max guy next off-season (assuming that's still an option).
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1348 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:20 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:This is not bad news. We already knew his knee was a bit janky from his playoff performance. Regenerative therapy and a shortened season for Kemba will likely be just what he needs to have a good year. One good year and he won't be a problem moving for cap space should the team target a max guy next off-season (assuming that's still an option).


Didn' Kobe end up getting something like this? This isn't the first I have heard of something like this.
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Post#1349 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:23 pm

I would offer Kemba + Langford + 1st for Gordon + Ross and hope Orlando bites. Hope a PG like Hill becomes available for the cheap midseason. Or even Kemba + Langford for Mills + Gay to just get off the contract.

If knee is a real concern though, it's hard to trick another franchise to take on his contract unless someone desperate comes along like the 2017 Cavs. Especially after the IT thing. We might just need to do our best with that knee. A couple of the young guys need to emerge this season. Can't rely solely on the Jays moving forward.
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Post#1350 » by CelticsLV » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:24 pm

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The main conditions treated by stem cell injections include knee osteoarthritis, cartilage degeneration, and various acute conditions, such as a torn ACL, MCL, or meniscus.


I guess it's one of the first 2. Basically, his knee is permanently ****/degenerating and needs maintenance to function more or less properly? :noway:

Good luck with trading him.
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Post#1351 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:26 pm

Someone on the GB posted that Westbrook had this done as well and was able to play the whole season.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1352 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:29 pm

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Afam wrote:Not good news at all. For the first time, I am going to say that the Celtics should trade Kemba Walker.


They tried apparently. Between his contract and knees he is untradeable. Cs are stuck with him.

At that price. He needs to retire. Or dump him at our earliest convenience.
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Post#1353 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:30 pm

Yah, before the panic police take over, Kemba still averaged 20-5-4 on 57%+ TS last post season. The Celtics had a net rating of +6.2 with him on the court relative to a +0.9 rating without him. Even if his knee is problematic, he’s still a very good player. Lets not lose sight of that
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Post#1354 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:30 pm

I would rather panic though. It's easier to panic than to stay calm lol.
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Post#1355 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:33 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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Parliament10 wrote:This is a really bad look for Kemba.
He's had a lot of time to heal that knee. It's Chronic at this point.
Might be time for him to hang it up.


We could tell he was not right during the playoffs and it is concerning, like you said, because he has not played in nearly 2 months. Have to wonder how the celtics missed this when they signed him.

What is more concerning is that this is just year two of four and he is owed 107m still. Have to assume there is no way in hell he opts out in 2023 where is he is owed 37m either.

This may end up being disastrous and wastes 3 years of JB and Tatum.


To be honest, I think he’d still be great in a LouWill role off the bench for 25 MPG. Not worth the money but still a very important role.

I agree. Kemba could still be good, coming off the Bench.
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Post#1356 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:33 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Someone on the GB posted that Westbrook had this done as well and was able to play the whole season.


The start of the season being December clearly caught us off guard. Guessing we wouldve advised Romeo and Kemba to start their procedures earlier had we known.
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Post#1357 » by VeryMuchWoke » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:38 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
VeryMuchWoke wrote:This is not bad news. We already knew his knee was a bit janky from his playoff performance. Regenerative therapy and a shortened season for Kemba will likely be just what he needs to have a good year. One good year and he won't be a problem moving for cap space should the team target a max guy next off-season (assuming that's still an option).


Didn' Kobe end up getting something like this? This isn't the first I have heard of something like this.


Kobe had regenokine, which is where the doctor's take a bunch of the patients blood, incubate it in special tubes to promote the generation of anti-inflammatory proteins, separate out the proteins and some other helpful stuff from the rest in a centrifuge, then inject that serum into the patient.

I don't know the details of what Kemba had done but I believe most stem cell therapies are anti-inflammatory, but also a bit more geared towards repairing and regenerating tissue.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1358 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:40 pm

So can Tristan play PG? Lol

In all seriousness, Kemba went to a bunch of specialists who all told him no surgery. That is weird to me.

It has to be arthritis. He was our best player in the first half of the playoffs so he’s still good but man this is bull.
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Post#1359 » by cl2117 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:51 pm

I feel like load management will go a long way to keeping him right for when it actually counts. He's just got to be our 3rd/4th best player, which I think he can still do when healthy (even if that's not the Kemba you'd normally expect).

I hope Pritchard gets a chance from Day 1. I wasn't a fan of the pick, but people kept telling me he's got value in the fact that he's a 4 year player who won't need as much time to get acclimated especially given the lack of training camp etc. Well here's his chance.

I'd like to see Brad lean into the skid and not just hand the reigns over to Teague and Smart. Let Pritchard/Waters/Edwards go some. Same with TT and Timelord, don't let him get pushed to the back of rotations out of the gate. It could be ugly, but good or bad it'll be beneficial for us in the long run.
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Post#1360 » by greenroom31 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:53 pm

Given where Kemba is at physically and career-arc wise I think his best fit with a championship level team is in a Lou Williams 6th man type role anyway.

The gap we have is another guard who isn't a liability on defense, can make open shots and who can create some on offense. Smart fits that bill to an extent, but I actually think he struggles some with quicker guards. In theory Romeo could become that guy, but first he actually has to stay healthy for more than a month at a time.

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