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Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019

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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#481 » by ParticleMan » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:32 am

Shak_Celts wrote:Given it a lot of thought, I think CBS will choose Strus. He loves shooters above anything and they have been looking for them every season. Strus hasn't shot well or anything but according to Scal, he shot lights out in workouts even when they sent multiple guys at him. My gut tells me they would rather give Strus who is 23 vs 26, with a shot to become a shooter for CBS over what Green gives. We chose KO before CBS was official but it's not like they chose CBS at random, they knew the players and team he was looking for well before it was known to us. IMO we have tried to pick up guys who could light it up every season since his signing. It has not worked out most of the time but we still pick those potential shooter types every season. We even select bigs who they think may be able to be average, at least, every time too. With time to think, if it's between those two and not someone, like maybe Semi (nothing against him), then I think they choose Strus because of what CBS looks for in a player.


good point, and shooting is the most valuable skill in the nba. but i think strus had to show better shooting for this to be a good argument. strus wasn't a great shooter percentagewise in college, and he hasn't been great so far in SL or preseason. i remember gerald green's shot always looked so smooth, but it didn't go in all that much; strus seems to be the same. in a few years strus may develop himself into the next korver if all goes well. but korver has also turned himself into a not terrible defender, while strus is currently a pylon. we won't regret letting strus go for now; maybe we bring him back in a couple of years anyways.

the thing i like about green is that he is effective without the ball. he moves, defends, and you can't teach that athleticism. i also don't think we would greatly regret letting him go, but as a 15th man he's a good guy who you can slot in to several positions, is experienced enough to do the right things, and will make teams pay if they simply forget about him.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#482 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:37 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:Carsen is just a joy to watch. ainge killed this draft big time.


8 3s in any game is crazy, regardless of wether its competitive or preseason.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#483 » by BillessuR6 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:06 am

I wonder if Danny had Herro over Langford on his draft board. Probably not. But Herro is just what we need, a knock down shooter… Maybe Strus can be a poor mans Herro, lol.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#484 » by Homerclease » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:18 am

thebirdman wrote:I wonder if Danny had Herro over Langford on his draft board. Probably not. But Herro is just what we need, a knock down shooter… Maybe Strus can be a poor mans Herro, lol.

Rumors before the draft were all saying Herro was our guy. Believe they worked him out twice and we were heavily linked to him. Effing Pat Riley
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#485 » by KGboss » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:35 am

My opinion it would be a huge mistake to let Green go. This guys athleticism, his feel for the game, what he has shown he can do, it's an unbelievable level of talent and I dont think they can let that go and choose a shooting specialist over him. We have enough shooters on this team. Green needs to be the guy.

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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#486 » by sam_I_am » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:06 pm

KGboss wrote:My opinion it would be a huge mistake to let Green go. This guys athleticism, his feel for the game, what he has shown he can do, it's an unbelievable level of talent and I dont think they can let that go and choose a shooting specialist over him. We have enough shooters on this team. Green needs to be the guy.

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I honestly wouldn’t be shocked is Semi and Wannamaker get traded or released and both make roster along with Waters. However, barring that I would like to see Semi realeased and both staying. If it is between Strus and Green I think Green has earned the spot. From a long term perspective I think Strus is a guy that could fill a role that the team has needed since Ray Allen left (obviously at a different level as a specialist). Green is redundant and not only has to beat out Hayward, Brown and Tatum for PT but also Langford who team is highly motivated to develop. Ainge may want to look around for a future second round pick for him. If no trades are option and it were up to me I would cut Semi - he has played this Preseason like Yabs did in SL. However, he still is only versatile enough PF to guard the Greek freak so I doubt that happens.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#487 » by CeltsfaninDC » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Joshyjess wrote:Some more pre-season ramblings:
Green better get that last spot. There is ZERO comparison between him and Strues. Green played great in all 4 pre-season games. Strues played good in 1 (and really, really bad in the others).
Waters over Wannamaker - every day, 7 days a week. I'm watching Waters, and thinking to myself, this guy is no rookie! He looks like a 6 year veteran out there. He can do so many different things well. Guy is awesome!!!!
Carson Edwards - what really needs to be said????
Porier - I liked what I saw today. He has a really good, well-rounded game. Once he finally catches on to Boston's system (language def. doesn't help), he might just be the most well-rounded big guy we've got. As of now I would rate our big guys - 1 - Theis, 2 - Williams / Poirier, 4 - Kanter , 5 - Tacko
Speaking of Tacko, he's a lot of fun to watch, but man does he have a long way to go before he's NBA ready. He needs to play a lot of ball in Maine!
Ojeyele - tonight was his best chance to impress, and again he fell short (looked a little better than the last 3 games, but still just doesn't look good).
Williams - He has a lot of great skills that should hopefully get better as the year goes on. Looks good, but not great yet.
Even our back-ups / end of the bench players are more fun to watch then was last year's team.
It's going to be a long wait until the first game of the season.


What you are missing is what happens in practice all day long. You get to see these guys for a few minutes here and there, but Danny/Brad and the staff see them for hours every single day. I trust that they know that Strus fills a need here since they gave him a 2 year contract. Definitely Waters over Wanamaker and lets trade Semi.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#488 » by radcot » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:21 pm

You know the old line about being "able to hit a shot from anywhere on the court"? Well, Semi is the opposite. Guy has no touch whatsoever, and yet still shoots way too much. Hurts to watch him play offense. Fortunately for him, he is very good at the other end. And with all Brad's comments about emphasizing D, I doubt he gets traded or cut.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#489 » by FeedReed » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:40 pm

not often does someone possess athleticism, and feel for the game. green has both... gotta keep him.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#490 » by FeedReed » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:42 pm

i really don’t want to get rid of strus either though. cut semi and keep green and strus.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#491 » by crimsonandblue » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:45 pm

FeedReed wrote:i really don’t want to get rid of strus either though. cut semi and keep green and strus.


Cut Semi for Strus? Lmao
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#492 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:57 pm

crimsonandblue wrote:
FeedReed wrote:i really don’t want to get rid of strus either though. cut semi and keep green and strus.


Cut Semi for Strus? Lmao


Agreed. Semi had a rough preseason, but Strus has shown next to nothing if were being honest.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#493 » by UNCBlue012 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:01 pm

If anything, I think this team will be fun.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#494 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:31 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Semi had a rough preseason.

Semi has had a rough career. If I hear Mike Gorman say one more time that if “Ojeleye could shoot he would get a lot of minutes” I think I would puke
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#495 » by Gant » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:41 pm

Dwyane Wade on Carsen Edwards:

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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#496 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:50 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Semi had a rough preseason.

Semi has had a rough career. If I hear Mike Gorman say one more time that if “Ojeleye could shoot he would get a lot of minutes” I think I would puke


Again, ive previously advocated trading Semi to keep Green. But for Strus? Naw— that dude isnt an NBA player.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#497 » by Edug27 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:53 pm

Edwards can be our Patty Mills/Fred ValVleet
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#498 » by sam_I_am » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:56 pm

Some interesting random preseason stats:

1. Top scorers: 1. Edwards 2. Waters 3. Green
2. Defensive ratings: Brown 64, Tatum 69, Smart 71, Kanter 89, Semi 91, Tacko 95
3. 3pt%: Kemba 62.5, Edwards 45, Marcus,Grant,Strus 41.7, Tatum 30, Brown 25
4. Wannamaker offensive rtg: 122
5. Gordon Hayward Net rating +18 vs. -29 preseason last year. Defensive rating last year 122.
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Re: Preseason #4: Celtics @ Cavaliers – 7:00PM, Tues., Oct. 15, 2019 

Post#499 » by Gant » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:03 pm

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