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Celtics General Regular Season Thread 2019-20, "Re-Start" 

Post#1 » by Parliament10 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:08 am

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Post#2 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:42 am

I love the Tommy and Mike clip. I don't so much like the idea of Kanter starting.
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Post#3 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:45 am

Actually, Celticsblog has some observant articles on the rotation, calling out the likelihood that:
-- Hayward will be the first starter to sit, so that he can help ball-handle for the reserves.
-- Jayson and Jaylen will get almost all their minutes together.
-- Kanter will not start.
-- Theis will.

All this is based on the theory that rotations in preseason are indicative of what the coach wants to try in the regular season ... and, hey, whatever he did in preseason seemed to work pretty well.
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Post#4 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:48 am

Are we gonna get truth18 back this season? Or ever? I miss that dude. If he's gone, who's gonna do the PGs?

Not a fan of Kanter starting either. Won't rehash the reasons why. My guess Theis (based on preseason) gets first crack. Brad can always sub him out early if it's an absolute disaster. But Enes is a better fit coming off the bench.
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Post#6 » by Parliament10 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:54 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Are we gonna get truth18 back this season? Or ever? I miss that dude. If he's gone, who's gonna do the PGs?

Not a fan of Kanter starting either. Won't rehash the reasons why. My guess Theis (based on preseason) gets first crack. Brad can always sub him out early if it's an absolute disaster. But Enes is a better fit coming off the bench.

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Post#7 » by Ed Pinkney » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:56 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Actually, Celticsblog has some observant articles on the rotation, calling out the likelihood that:
-- Hayward will be the first starter to sit, so that he can help ball-handle for the reserves.
-- Jayson and Jaylen will get almost all their minutes together.
-- Kanter will not start.
-- Theis will.

All this is based on the theory that rotations in preseason are indicative of what the coach wants to try in the regular season ... and, hey, whatever he did in preseason seemed to work pretty well.



This is certainly how I felt after the four preseason games. With Theis, Brown, Tatum and Hayward switching and flying over the court on defense, it looked pretty formidable at times so I would like to see Theis as the starter.
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Post#8 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:57 am

I'll take it even further and project:

Starters
Walker/Hayward/Brown/Tatum/Theis

Second unit
Smart/Edwards/Hayward/(Grant, Semi or Bob)/Kanter

Other common substitutions
Smart for Hayward early
Smart for anybody in crunch time
Poirier or either Williams for Theis at any time

I think two-bigs lineups will happen situationally, but only rarely at the opening tip.

All this, of course, is barring injury.
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Post#9 » by Triple7 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:19 am

Theis as a starter. :lol: small ball here we come!
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Post#10 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:35 am

Triple7 wrote:Theis as a starter. :lol: small ball here we come!


We are going to start off small, but as games go on and subs start coming in, you're going to have a lot of big line ups with two of Grant, Rob and Enes together..we are probably above average at the 2 and 3 with Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi..Smart is a big PG. Plenty of alternatives to play with. Curious to see how we defend Embiid in game 1. I think we are going to throw a lot of quick doubles at him and make him beat us passing the ball. I'm pretty excited to see what we can come up with. I loved the speed we saw from us defensively in the preseason. Aggressive in the passing lanes, quick hands, long arms. Should be fun. My main concern is if we will be able to finish possessions with a rebound.
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Post#11 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:37 am

Parliament10 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Are we gonna get truth18 back this season? Or ever? I miss that dude. If he's gone, who's gonna do the PGs?

Not a fan of Kanter starting either. Won't rehash the reasons why. My guess Theis (based on preseason) gets first crack. Brad can always sub him out early if it's an absolute disaster. But Enes is a better fit coming off the bench.

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Post#12 » by Triple7 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:42 am

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Triple7 wrote:Theis as a starter. :lol: small ball here we come!


We are going to start off small, but as games go on and subs start coming in, you're going to have a lot of big line ups with two of Grant, Rob and Enes together..we are probably above average at the 2 and 3 with Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi..Smart is a big PG. Plenty of alternatives to play with. Curious to see how we defend Embiid in game 1. I think we are going to throw a lot of quick doubles at him and make him beat us passing the ball. I'm pretty excited to see what we can come up with. I loved the speed we saw from us defensively in the preseason. Aggressive in the passing lanes, quick hands, long arms. Should be fun. My main concern is if we will be able to finish possessions with a rebound.


I’d start Rwill against embiid. Theis is just too small. He can’t even block guards attacking the rim, and is a poor rebounder. Sixers would have a field day inside. and we would scramble to double embiid and horford down low.
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Triple7 wrote:Theis as a starter. :lol: small ball here we come!


We are going to start off small, but as games go on and subs start coming in, you're going to have a lot of big line ups with two of Grant, Rob and Enes together..we are probably above average at the 2 and 3 with Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi..Smart is a big PG. Plenty of alternatives to play with. Curious to see how we defend Embiid in game 1. I think we are going to throw a lot of quick doubles at him and make him beat us passing the ball. I'm pretty excited to see what we can come up with. I loved the speed we saw from us defensively in the preseason. Aggressive in the passing lanes, quick hands, long arms. Should be fun. My main concern is if we will be able to finish possessions with a rebound.


I’d start Rwill against embiid. Theis is just too small. He can’t even block guards attacking the rim, and is a poor rebounder. Sixers would have a field day inside. and we would scramble to double embiid and horford down low.


If you want a guy to stop Embiid's back-to-the-basket game and his putbacks, would Rob Williams be any better than Theis?
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Post#14 » by Homerclease » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:22 am

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We are going to start off small, but as games go on and subs start coming in, you're going to have a lot of big line ups with two of Grant, Rob and Enes together..we are probably above average at the 2 and 3 with Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi..Smart is a big PG. Plenty of alternatives to play with. Curious to see how we defend Embiid in game 1. I think we are going to throw a lot of quick doubles at him and make him beat us passing the ball. I'm pretty excited to see what we can come up with. I loved the speed we saw from us defensively in the preseason. Aggressive in the passing lanes, quick hands, long arms. Should be fun. My main concern is if we will be able to finish possessions with a rebound.


I’d start Rwill against embiid. Theis is just too small. He can’t even block guards attacking the rim, and is a poor rebounder. Sixers would have a field day inside. and we would scramble to double embiid and horford down low.


If you want a guy to stop Embiid's back-to-the-basket game and his putbacks, would Rob Williams be any better than Theis?

Yes, based off his ability to hang one on one with Anthony Davis last year and Theis utter inability to even slow Embiid down at all
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Post#15 » by Darth Celtic » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:38 am

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I’d start Rwill against embiid. Theis is just too small. He can’t even block guards attacking the rim, and is a poor rebounder. Sixers would have a field day inside. and we would scramble to double embiid and horford down low.


If you want a guy to stop Embiid's back-to-the-basket game and his putbacks, would Rob Williams be any better than Theis?

Yes, based off his ability to hang one on one with Anthony Davis last year and Theis utter inability to even slow Embiid down at all

Regardless, I feel RWIII has 0 chance to play as he had a setback and is just starting concussion protocal. No way he plays Wedn.
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Post#16 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:00 am

How does Kanter do on defense against Embiid?
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Post#17 » by Triple7 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:26 am

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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
We are going to start off small, but as games go on and subs start coming in, you're going to have a lot of big line ups with two of Grant, Rob and Enes together..we are probably above average at the 2 and 3 with Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi..Smart is a big PG. Plenty of alternatives to play with. Curious to see how we defend Embiid in game 1. I think we are going to throw a lot of quick doubles at him and make him beat us passing the ball. I'm pretty excited to see what we can come up with. I loved the speed we saw from us defensively in the preseason. Aggressive in the passing lanes, quick hands, long arms. Should be fun. My main concern is if we will be able to finish possessions with a rebound.


I’d start Rwill against embiid. Theis is just too small. He can’t even block guards attacking the rim, and is a poor rebounder. Sixers would have a field day inside. and we would scramble to double embiid and horford down low.


If you want a guy to stop Embiid's back-to-the-basket game and his putbacks, would Rob Williams be any better than Theis?


Of course. Theis can’t even stop bledsoe and george hill layups inside. It would be funny to see him try to stop horford and embiid. at 6’8 he’s even smaller than tobias and simmons.
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Post#18 » by Jurry » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:45 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:How does Kanter do on defense against Embiid?


like confetti to a river
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Post#19 » by GoGreen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:36 am

Jeez. Embiid is going to feast inside if all he has is Theis to go through. I am not looking forward to what him and Horf are going to do in the paint.

Really wish Kanter looked better. Idk what happened to him. I expected much better than what I've seen
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Jurry wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:How does Kanter do on defense against Embiid?


like confetti to a river


A pity, since he understands a little about post scoring himself.

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