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Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Rather just keep smart and grant.

Covington is blah.

No core guys traded unless it's like Hayward and assets for Beal or something.

Well, this is my first attempt at a Hayward trade. I don't think we should, but here goes anyway.

Boston trades Hayward to Cleveland, gets Covington and Dieng from Timberwolves.
Cleveland trades Love to Timberwolves and get Hayward.
Minn trades Covington and Dieng to Boston and gets Love.

Why for Boston:
We get the 4 we need in Covington, and a back up big in Deng. We also save 5 mil to help off set the loss of having to clear a roster spot if another small trade is not done.

Why for Cleveland:
Easy, they get out of Love's contract and get the younger player with out losing much scoring......normally.

Why for Minn:
Love goes home to play beside Towns. They would make a really good 1-2 punch on the frontline. Love could also helps Towns get better.

Wanamakers play has really tailed off over the last month, if anything they should move Poirier or Semi to get a competent backup guard in here or just waive someone and sign Waters outright

Would we consider Kevin Love and Sexton or Garland for Hayward and Wannamaker?

snowman wrote:Would we consider Kevin Love and Sexton or Garland for Hayward and Wannamaker?

No.

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Swap Vonleh for Dieng. Could be something.

Marvel wrote:

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Swap Vonleh for Dieng. Could be something.

Salary doesn't work at that point. EDIT: And, I almost like Vonleh better since he's more of a 4.

I'm still unsure on Covington's value. Seems great, but I feel there are rumblings (or adv stats) that say he's not really as effective as he seems.

Andrew McCeltic **** dominated the wall. Holy hell, what a performance.

djFan71 wrote:

Marvel wrote:

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Swap Vonleh for Dieng. Could be something.

Salary doesn't work at that point, but yeah, he'd be better.

I'm still unsure on Covington's value. Seems great, but I feel there are rumblings (or adv stats) that say he's not really as effective as he seems.

Just had a look, yeah you're right. I think this is a easy pass for me. lol

Marvel wrote:

djFan71 wrote:

Marvel wrote:Swap Vonleh for Dieng. Could be something.

Salary doesn't work at that point, but yeah, he'd be better.

I'm still unsure on Covington's value. Seems great, but I feel there are rumblings (or adv stats) that say he's not really as effective as he seems.

Just had a look, yeah you're right. I think this is a easy pass for me. lol

Yeah, I keep trying to talk myself into then back out of it. I'm just sick of being so **** short.

snowman wrote:Well, this is my first attempt at a Hayward trade. I don't think we should, but here goes anyway.

Boston trades Hayward to Cleveland, gets Covington and Dieng from Timberwolves.
Cleveland trades Love to Timberwolves and get Hayward.
Minn trades Covington and Dieng to Boston and gets Love.

Why for Boston:
We get the 4 we need in Covington, and a back up big in Deng. We also save 5 mil to help off set the loss of having to clear a roster spot if another small trade is not done.

Why for Cleveland:
Easy, they get out of Love's contract and get the younger player with out losing much scoring......normally.

Why for Minn:
Love goes home to play beside Towns. They would make a really good 1-2 punch on the frontline. Love could also helps Towns get better.

I think dieng starts here. Hella underrated center who is lost behind kat.

Think its a little too good for minny and a little light for boston though honestly.

100proof wrote:

snowman wrote:Well, this is my first attempt at a Hayward trade. I don't think we should, but here goes anyway.

Boston trades Hayward to Cleveland, gets Covington and Dieng from Timberwolves.
Cleveland trades Love to Timberwolves and get Hayward.
Minn trades Covington and Dieng to Boston and gets Love.

Why for Boston:
We get the 4 we need in Covington, and a back up big in Deng. We also save 5 mil to help off set the loss of having to clear a roster spot if another small trade is not done.

Why for Cleveland:
Easy, they get out of Love's contract and get the younger player with out losing much scoring......normally.

Why for Minn:
Love goes home to play beside Towns. They would make a really good 1-2 punch on the frontline. Love could also helps Towns get better.

I think dieng starts here. Hella underrated center who is lost behind kat.

Think its a little too good for minny and a little light for boston though honestly.

Towns is 150x better than Love. Tf can Love teach him hahah

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

I like Covington a lot, but Smart is 3+ years younger and likely just as good. Vonleh wouldn't even play on this team when everyone is healthy.

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Wouldnt do it, but wondered if a Smart for Harris/Allen deal made sense, especially in light of Kyrie’s comments and his affinity for Smart.

Grant Williams, Poirier, Ojeleye, BOS or MILW 1st rounder for Covington.

Bleeding Green wrote:

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

I like Covington a lot, but Smart is 3+ years younger and likely just as good. Vonleh wouldn't even play on this team when everyone is healthy.

Man, I thought you'd be the one with me on the 6'7" wing that can guard 1-4, and shoot the 3. Did you see those lineups?!?

I don't think I'd even do it. I'm just looking for that tall wing and he's one of the few out there (due to wingspan and hair) that qualifies and is slightly available.

SmartWentCrazy wrote:

djFan71 wrote:Kicking this new thread off with a non-Hayward idea, that I hate myself for pondering, but then I keep pondering it, so....

Smart, Grant, Green for Covington, Vonleh.

Assumes MIN doesn't get D-Lo and still needs a PG. Smart would be great for that soft-*** team.
We get taller, and wingier, lose a little playmaking, but sign a bought-out ET with the open spot. Or bring up Waters.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Covington, Theis
Wanamaker, ET, Hayward, Semi, Kanter

Death lineup: Kemba or ET, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Covington.

Wouldnt do it, but wondered if a Smart for Harris/Allen deal made sense, especially in light of Kyrie’s comments and his affinity for Smart.

Intriguing, can't say I've watched enough Allen to really know, though. Harris is meh to me, solid, but not Smart trade worthy. So it's really is Allen worth it?

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Grant Williams, Poirier, Ojeleye, BOS or MILW 1st rounder for Covington.

Sold.