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What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling?

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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#1481 » by The Comedian » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:41 am

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Smart had already had the rep of being a team guy/doing anything to win games. There’s also a difference between saying you want to be the best defender vs Tatum’s argument of “I increased all my stats from last year”. I just think it’s worrisome, you seldom hear him talking about team accolades or making the team better. Part of it might just be the game today, players aren’t made the same today. But the way he talks…having his face on a bag of chips seemed more important than winning a title.

Talk to me when Tatum misses 3 weeks in the regular season by cutting his hand punching a picture frame over an internet hooker.


He doesn’t care enough to punch the picture frame, trade him.
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Post#1484 » by playa-hater » Thu Sep 9, 2021 3:52 pm

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so.. is this a good thing?? :D

Truth is, he is so good at making bad shots, he often doesn't see what good shots are in comparison. I want him to be aggressive for sure. But not settle for 3s (though he can hit them) taking smarter shots would make him even more unstoppable.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#1485 » by ballup » Thu Sep 9, 2021 4:38 pm

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so.. is this a good thing?? :D

Truth is, he is so good at making bad shots, he often doesn't see what good shots are in comparison. I want him to be aggressive for sure. But not settle for 3s (though he can hit them) taking smarter shots would make him even more unstoppable.
It is, but is more complex than described. Tatum is usually covered hard and first options hardly get spot up opportunities. So many of his attempts are self created. Compounded by being a ball handler a lot of the time and the offense not incorporating as many shooting off screen plays for Tatum.



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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#1486 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Sep 9, 2021 4:56 pm

Real opinion, I can't imagine it and I hope that's how he feels about it!
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#1487 » by TH15 » Thu Sep 9, 2021 6:39 pm

Difficult shot making is IMO probably the most important skill for a Superstar to have. It's why I'd take a Durant or Curry over a Giannis or Zion. It's one of the qualities that Ainge always spoke to, and valued a guy like Pierce for mastering.

In the 4th quarter of tight playoff games, defenses dig in and often it's your best player pounding the ball and looking to create looks for himself and others. In the end, there is only one ball to shoot, and to me this dynamic highlights one of the obvious downsides of the "super team" option, due to the diminishing returns of having multiple tough shotmakers sharing the court. Yes, its great having Kyrie as a kick-out option who is one of the all-time great shot-makers, but a lot of times he'll be parked in a corner twiddling his thumbs while Durant and Harden pound the ball.

The one-superstar-tough-shotmaker approach may be a lot more predictable, but if we're gonna end with a contested shot, Tatum is the guy I want taking that shot every time. Brown can play the Ray Allen role of being a tough catch-and-shoot guy coming off screens etc while Tatum fits the PP role better than the Truth himself. Now if we can figure out a way to transplant Al Horford's brain into Timelord's body, we'll also have our KG :D
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#1488 » by exculpatory » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:49 am

TH15 wrote:Difficult shot making is IMO probably the most important skill for a Superstar to have. It's why I'd take a Durant or Curry over a Giannis or Zion. It's one of the qualities that Ainge always spoke to, and valued a guy like Pierce for mastering.

In the 4th quarter of tight playoff games, defenses dig in and often it's your best player pounding the ball and looking to create looks for himself and others. In the end, there is only one ball to shoot, and to me this dynamic highlights one of the obvious downsides of the "super team" option, due to the diminishing returns of having multiple tough shotmakers sharing the court. Yes, its great having Kyrie as a kick-out option who is one of the all-time great shot-makers, but a lot of times he'll be parked in a corner twiddling his thumbs while Durant and Harden pound the ball.

1. The one-superstar-tough-shotmaker approach may be a lot more predictable, but if we're gonna end with a contested shot, Tatum is the guy I want taking that shot every time.

2. Brown can play the Ray Allen role of being a tough catch-and-shoot guy coming off screens etc…

3…while Tatum fits the PP role better than the Truth himself.

4. Now if we can figure out a way to transplant Al Horford's brain into Timelord's body, we'll also have our KG :D


Great post!

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. Maybe - but he needs to prove it for many more seasons over & over & over again before you can say that.
4. Would be perfect! LOL.
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