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I still can’t believe how much progress he made as a passer this season. Not sure it’s his absolute ceiling but Durant with a little less scoring and a little more play making is a nice place to be after year 3!

Next season can’t be just about hoping to get to the ECF again. This guy needs to be playing for trophies, soon.

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Can’t take him seriously when he’s got AD at 2. After these playoffs I’d have JT at 10 while taking Embiid out.

The ceiling is the roof. He is a tighter handle away from being the best scorer in the NBA. Elite isolation scorer + great defender almost always results in a guy who wins multiple titles.

Once JTs handle matures (and it improved massively this year), he will dominate. Only guy I'd take over him in his age range is Doncic due to his insane vision.

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One might even say he'll need a higher ceiling.

MVP

Bol Bol is probably #6 on this list.

This dropped the other day, god damn.

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Tatum definitely has to have wording in his Contract, in the event that he gets All-NBA again.

28/8/6/2/1 season coming up? (He'd be the first to do it lol.)

He already has all the necessary technical attributes (good basketball body, athleticism, shooting etc)
And he seems to be a humble guy. He won't be an MJ, KB, KG, J-Buckets type of terrorising leader.(Btw I see JB growing into that. He has this street swagger and an alpha dog look lol) What I'd wish for JT is growing into our Tim Duncan. Technical side is already here, I hope the mentality will come.

As for Jayson Tatum's ceiling... I really have no reason to change my view of his ceiling that I had right before or right after Ainge selected him. He peaks as one of the 10-15 best players that you would want for the playoffs. This includes every player in the league and not just players on playoff teams. Ainge and anyone else really paying attention had to know Tatum would be a very good shooter since he already was. I remember a few Celtics or general board posters making the comparison to Tobias Harris either before the draft or during Tatum's rookie year. I never bought that comparison. Tatum was clearly way ahead of a shooter and a better athlete than Tobias Harris exiting college. (There was a reason Tatum emerged as a freshman as a star player for Duke) Exiting college I didn't think Tatum would develop strong point forward skills and I continue to believe that. The real question was his level on defense and I was cautiously very optimistic. Tatum as a rookie showed that he would be a good defender. But it is fair to say by now that Tatum and even Jaylen Brown are showing no signs that either will be an elite defender. It kind of is hard to do so without better physical gifts(Payton/Pippen/K Leonard/Jordan are some wings that had elite gifts for defense) than Tatum has for defense or maniacal effort combined with very good athleticism for defense(maybe Smart/Dennis Rodman) Don't get me wrong on Jaylen Brown, he clearly is a good defender but just doesn't have the same tools for defense than let's say a young Andre Igoudala. Brown has some athletic advantages over Igoudala but not on the defensive end.

From my perspective, Tatum is already around 90% of what he will be. But hopefully Tatum surprises me in a positive direction.

I have a feeling this year we will have good duels between him and Durant. As Tatum get's better and better and Durant likely isn't 100% as that's the worst injury a basketball player can get.

This year I'd imagine their play might be similar. Should be exciting...and annoying...but hopefully a good rivalry.

Kevin Durant was leading the league in scoring on .607 TS% when he was age 21. Tatum is a stud but he's nowhere close to Durant.

soxfan2003 wrote:As for Jayson Tatum's ceiling... I really have no reason to change my view of his ceiling that I had right before or right after Ainge selected him.

Why bother changing an opinion based on 3yrs of observing a player when you can just argue your faulty points in perpetuity

JT should be taking 20 of these side-step threes per game.

Third season was truncated, at that. All before turning 20.