bucknersrevenge wrote: hugepatsfan wrote:
Hayward won’t count as BYC. He’s not going to be getting a raise of 20%.
"The BYC rule applies to a specific circumstance. If a player is being signed-and-traded via Early Bird or Bird rights by a team above the salary cap, gets a raise of at least 20%,
and his salary is worth more than the minimum, his cap figure for salary-matching purposes will be affected."
Again, clearly I did not read this article at all. So then, maybe the scenario I suggested is at least plausible. Say Danny goes to Hayward this offseason and says, Hey we'll give you an extra 30 Mil and 2 more years if you agree to opt out and take a 3 yr/65M extension. If you opt in, we can't pay you beyond this year. Let's say Gordon instead opts in. After the opt in, considering he won't be getting a raise but let's say a team like Indy who would be interested in bringing a #1 son home and a wing talent who could fit in seamlessly with Warren and Oladipo and they offer 4/100M which is obviously a decrease in annual salary. We could trade him for Turner and McDermott.
There's two ways we can trade Hayward. One is via S&T. In that case, salary matching is calculated off of whatever the first year of his new deal is. The team trading for him would be hard capped at the tax apron so that is a consideration.
If he opts in, we can trade him. His salary on the option would be $34,187,085. So in order to match salaries, the new team would have to send back $27,269,668 (or take him back into cap space, but seems unlikely that NYK/CHA/DET/Atlanta would be interested in sending any value for him and unlikely we'd trade him to a competitor in MIA, IMO).
However, also have to consider that Hayward has a 15% trade kicker. That raises the incoming salary for his new team. His 15% kicker would bring his salary up to $39,315,148. That requires the new team to send back $31,372,118.20. But wait, there's more! His 15% trade kicker can't raise his salary to any higher than his maximum salary (35% of cap). The most optimistic projections are that the cap holds steady at about $109M, which would give Hayward a salary of $38,150,000 which requires another team to send back $30,440,000.
For the trade kicker, we pay the money but for salary purposes the other team has to count him at his updated salary while we count him at the old. So he counts less money for us going out then he does to the other team coming in. That could create issues, but in this case, we're likely trading Hayward to cut costs, not add salary. So shouldn't be too much of an issue if he does decline it, other than the incremental increase to the other team's cap sheet/luxury tax counter.
There's also the issue of an extension. Because Hayward's current deal is so big, he would be able to extend (with us or with a team we trade him to). He could opt in and then sign an extension to kick in next year at $20M/year. Rule prohibit players from signing extensions that increase future salary by too much, but you can sign an extension that starts lower than your last year salary in your current deal. Hayward's next deal is obviously going to be lower than his current $34.2M salary so even if he does opt in, he should be able to sign an extension this year.
To talk specifically about a deal with IND, I first off don't think they would trade Turner for Hayward. Turner is the lynchpin of their defense. He's crucial to covering for Sabonis. They lose him and they'd have to play Warren out of place at the 4 to accommodate Hayward and Warren/Sabonis might be the worst defensive front court in the NBA. I just don't see that as realistic.
But if we assume they would listen to Turner/Hayward swap, then McDermott isn't enough salary added. Also, I think for them to consider trading Turner they'd have to use Lamb's more expensive 2 year deal. And even Turner/Lamb isn't enough. Still have to add Edmond Summer or TJ Leaf. And adding Hayward would push them closer to tax so they'd want to use Leaf's more expensive deal IMO. So any Myles Turner trade I think would be Turner/Lamb/Leaf if they considered.