Trade Ideas Thread

[bucknersrevenge]

Holy god Hield is really old.

He's in his prime. He's 27. He's not old. Chris Paul is old. Kyle Lowry is old.

[big-shot-ROB]

Holy god Hield is really old.

He's in his prime. He's 27. He's not old. Chris Paul is old. Kyle Lowry is old.

I meant old as in was drafted along with Jaylen. I meant old as in Giannis is younger.

[Cuban Pete]

Holy god Hield is really old.

Of course, he was a senior when he entered the draft. He struggled in his underclassmen seasons. That could explain why he's on his second team.

[playa-hater]

Todays thought (I like big trades it seems)

https://tradenba.com/trades/gR6093X6e

Kings out: Barnes, Bjelica, Joseph, Heild
in: Hayward, Johnson, Illyasova, Kanter, #17, #24, #26, #33, #47

Kings shed all long term salary and add loads of picks. Compete for a year with Fox, Hayward, JJ, Bagley and Holmes then have massive capspace next offseason.


Bucks out: Bledsoe, Wilson, Bender Illyasove and #24
In: Joseph and Heild

Bucks add a legit shooter and a steady vet pg.


Timberwolves out: Johnson, Reid, Okogie #17 and #33
In: Bledsoe, Bender, Poirier, Edwards, Wilson and #30

Wolves add a defensive PG to pair with Kat/DR. And a cost controlled bench.


Celtics out: Hayward, Kanter, Poirier, Edwards, #26, #30 and #47
in: Barnes, Bjelica, Reid, Okogie.

Boston adds a great young fit at PF with the core and strengthen bench shooting and size. Sheds about 8 mill in salary. Draft BPA at 14 (most likely a PG - RJ Hampton) use MLE on a backup sf/sg. (Harris, Beasley, Clarkson, Burkes, etc)

Kemba/Smart/Hampton#14
Brown/Langford/MLE
Tatum/Okogie/MLE
Barnes/Bjelica/GrantW
Theis/Reid/Timelord

On paper tis seems like a good trade, but it only takes one team not to do it, to stop it all-together. I don't see why Minny would do that trade..

[100proof]

Todays thought (I like big trades it seems)

https://tradenba.com/trades/gR6093X6e

Kings out: Barnes, Bjelica, Joseph, Heild
in: Hayward, Johnson, Illyasova, Kanter, #17, #24, #26, #33, #47

Kings shed all long term salary and add loads of picks. Compete for a year with Fox, Hayward, JJ, Bagley and Holmes then have massive capspace next offseason.


Bucks out: Bledsoe, Wilson, Bender Illyasove and #24
In: Joseph and Heild

Bucks add a legit shooter and a steady vet pg.


Timberwolves out: Johnson, Reid, Okogie #17 and #33
In: Bledsoe, Bender, Poirier, Edwards, Wilson and #30

Wolves add a defensive PG to pair with Kat/DR. And a cost controlled bench.


Celtics out: Hayward, Kanter, Poirier, Edwards, #26, #30 and #47
in: Barnes, Bjelica, Reid, Okogie.

Boston adds a great young fit at PF with the core and strengthen bench shooting and size. Sheds about 8 mill in salary. Draft BPA at 14 (most likely a PG - RJ Hampton) use MLE on a backup sf/sg. (Harris, Beasley, Clarkson, Burkes, etc)

Kemba/Smart/Hampton#14
Brown/Langford/MLE
Tatum/Okogie/MLE
Barnes/Bjelica/GrantW
Theis/Reid/Timelord

On paper tis seems like a good trade, but it only takes one team not to do it, to stop it all-together. I don't see why Minny would do that trade..

I think Bledsoe is a great get at PG for them moving forward. Reasonable deal, excellent defender. That is a must for them, defense. Everyone else is just bench/salary fodder to move forward with. The bigger deal for them is how they are able to move forward from now. They would have the MLE and some cheap moveable contracts to add to their top 3 core(assuming they pick edwards)

Bledsoe
Russell
Edwards
Juan
KAT

Looks like the start of a heavy offense team to me.

[Dannyboy36]

Hi guys. What do you think of the possibility of adding Aaron Baynes back with the mid level? Do you think it’s worth it? I know he was injured there. I’m not sure if there was any ill feelings in the departure or not.
A healthy Celtics team adding a healthy Aaron Baynes maybe solves our big man rotation ? I love Theis).
Would love to hear opinions on if he’s worth that or if it’s a possibility in your minds. Thanks guys. Cheers.
Go Celtics!

[100proof]

Hi guys. What do you think of the possibility of adding Aaron Baynes back with the mid level? Do you think it’s worth it? I know he was injured there. I’m not sure if there was any ill feelings in the departure or not.
A healthy Celtics team adding a healthy Aaron Baynes maybe solves our big man rotation ? I love Theis).
Would love to hear opinions on if he’s worth that or if it’s a possibility in your minds. Thanks guys. Cheers.
Go Celtics!

Up. Give him Kanters spot and some of theis minutes

[djFan71]

What do you think of this with HOU?

House Jr for Kanter/Semi/26.

Is that fair, too little, too much? Not even close?

This is assuming they think they need at least a token big next year. Semi is in theory a good fit, plus they grab someone else at 26. They take Semi into TPE, so it's not really required if they don't want him. They turn House into several end of rotation players. We do the opposite and save a little $ off Kanter. He contributes next year instead of a late pick, and is cost-controlled for 2 years.

[Dannyboy36]

If it’s Tatum for Giannis does anyone here say no? Just curious.

[MagicBagley18]

If it’s Tatum for Giannis does anyone here say no? Just curious.

On a rental? It’s a big fat hell no from me

[100proof]

What do you think of this with HOU?

House Jr for Kanter/Semi/26.

Is that fair, too little, too much? Not even close?

This is assuming they think they need at least a token big next year. Semi is in theory a good fit, plus they grab someone else at 26. They take Semi into TPE, so it's not really required if they don't want him. They turn House into several end of rotation players. We do the opposite and save a little $ off Kanter. He contributes next year instead of a late pick, and is cost-controlled for 2 years.

Interesting.

House is can get hot from deep.

[djFan71]

What do you think of this with HOU?

House Jr for Kanter/Semi/26.

Is that fair, too little, too much? Not even close?

This is assuming they think they need at least a token big next year. Semi is in theory a good fit, plus they grab someone else at 26. They take Semi into TPE, so it's not really required if they don't want him. They turn House into several end of rotation players. We do the opposite and save a little $ off Kanter. He contributes next year instead of a late pick, and is cost-controlled for 2 years.

Interesting.

House is can get hot from deep.

I really like this:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Langford, House, GWill, RWill
Edwards, 14, 30, vet min

Stretch/dump Poirier.
If you resign Hayward to Jaylen deal you duck the tax too. But, even if you don't you save a little money and add a legit rotation guy and assume Williams^2 improve and assume all the Kanter\Semi minutes. Then just one of Romeo/14/30/vet min step up and you're in business.

[100proof]

What do you think of this with HOU?

House Jr for Kanter/Semi/26.

Is that fair, too little, too much? Not even close?

This is assuming they think they need at least a token big next year. Semi is in theory a good fit, plus they grab someone else at 26. They take Semi into TPE, so it's not really required if they don't want him. They turn House into several end of rotation players. We do the opposite and save a little $ off Kanter. He contributes next year instead of a late pick, and is cost-controlled for 2 years.

Interesting.

House is can get hot from deep.

I really like this:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Langford, House, GWill, RWill
Edwards, 14, 30, vet min

Stretch/dump Poirier.
If you resign Hayward to Jaylen deal you duck the tax too. But, even if you don't you save a little money and add a legit rotation guy and assume Williams^2 improve and assume all the Kanter\Semi minutes. Then just one of Romeo/14/30/vet min step up and you're in business.

I think you can move Poirier and edwards with a protected second easily enough or the 30th.
Edwards and a second to Orlando for Iwundu
Poirier and a 2nd for bruce brown

frees up another million+ without spending money on it.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

Interesting.

House is can get hot from deep.

I really like this:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Langford, House, GWill, RWill
Edwards, 14, 30, vet min

Stretch/dump Poirier.
If you resign Hayward to Jaylen deal you duck the tax too. But, even if you don't you save a little money and add a legit rotation guy and assume Williams^2 improve and assume all the Kanter\Semi minutes. Then just one of Romeo/14/30/vet min step up and you're in business.

I think you can move Poirier and edwards with a protected second easily enough or the 30th.
Edwards and a second to Orlando for Iwundu
Poirier and a 2nd for bruce brown

frees up another million+ without spending money on it.

Yep, those or something similar would work if the other teams oblige. Might be tough, though with just 47. Good thing is that you don't HAVE to. If you like somewhere better at 30 or even 47 than you can fetch with poirier & that pick, then just keep the pick and waive Poirier. If Hayward deal gets you within range of ducking the tax, figure it out via stretch or future 2nd even. If not, just eat the $.

[100proof]

Rockets out: House
in: Kanter, Semi Boston 2nd, 2 of the kings 2nds
Why? Rockets turn house into a scoring bigman and add some cost controlled depth with all the seconds.

Orlando out: Ross and Gordon
in: Hayward and Boston 1st

Why? Orlando need a wing creator and offense initiator from the sf spot. Gordon is not that player. This move also gives them another 1st for further moves if so desired.

Kings out: Bjelica, Barnes, 2 2nds
in: Gordon, Edwards, Poirier, Romeo Langford
Why? Kings get younger, save money now and long term

Celtics out: Hayward, Romeo, 1st, Kanter, Semi, Poirier, Edwards
in: Barnes, Bjelica, House, Ross
Why? Boston gets a bench and a starting PF.

Draft BPA at 14 and 30, sign Baynes to part of MLE

Kemba/Smart
Brown/Ross
Tatum/House
Barnes/Bjelica
Theis/Baynes

[100proof]

a variation of the above removing house and houston out of the equation

Orlando get heild
gives: Ross, Frazier Jr and Bamba

Sacramento gets: Hayward, Kanter, Romeo, Poirier and #26
gives: Barnes, Heild, and Holmes

Boston gets: Barnes, Holmes, Ross and Frazier
Gives: Hayward, Romeo, Kanter, Poirer and #26

Leaves the Celtics a 2nd rounders to move away from Poirier's contract and get a little further under the cap.

after signing the 14th pick (about 3.5 million) and the 30th pick (about 1.5 million) team payroll would be at 124 million million. Leaving a full mle to grab a scoring sg/sf off the bench


Kemba/Smart/Edwards
Brown/Frazier
Tatum/Ross
Barnes/GrantW
Theis/Holmes/Timelord

[100proof]

What about these?

Hayward to orlando
Aaron gordon, romeo langford, carson edwards and 30 to pacers
Ross, turner and aaron Holiday to boston

Follow up
Kanter, poirier and a second to kings
For Bjelica

Pick up Semis option.
14 and 26 and mle to fill/improve
All fiba starting lineup.

Kemba/holliday/14
Smart/ross/mle
Brown/semi/26
Tatum/bjelica/grantw
Turner/theis/timelord

Chips?

[Ernest]

I got an idea, just do nothing. Or close to that. We have a lot of guys that will b better next year. Win or lose game 7 we are close. Picks end of bench stuff fine. But unless there is a really really god deal the best option will be to keep things intact.

[famadihana]

I got an idea, just do nothing. Or close to that. We have a lot of guys that will b better next year. Win or lose game 7 we are close. Picks end of bench stuff fine. But unless there is a really really god deal the best option will be to keep things intact.

This is the trade ideas thread.

[djFan71]

What about these?

Hayward to orlando
Aaron gordon, romeo langford, carson edwards and 30 to pacers
Ross, turner and aaron Holiday to boston

Follow up
Kanter, poirier and a second to kings
For Bjelica

Pick up Semis option.
14 and 26 and mle to fill/improve
All fiba starting lineup.

Kemba/holliday/14
Smart/ross/mle
Brown/semi/26
Tatum/bjelica/grantw
Turner/theis/timelord

Chips?

It's not bad, but I just don't see ORL wanting an older guy like Hayward - esp giving up Gordon & Ross, I think they'd want more building blocks. Also from hayward's perspective, I think BOS, IND, GSW maybe DAL are the few places he'd agree to opt-in and go to. Obviously, I could be wrong.

I'm kinda in Ernest's boat where options are:
1) re-signed Hayward, end of the roster tweaks like House, etc.
2) any DAL/GSW trade iteration if Hayward agrees.
3) Get some assets by sending him to IND.