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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#41 » by Bleeding Green » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:45 am

BigTrade92 wrote:Am I the only one who would love to replace Theis with Ibaka?

Sure, you gonna pay Ibaka 20+ million a year, though? I'd love to replace Wanamaker with Fred Van Vleet while we're at it.

MLE-and-under guys I like are PJ Dozier (BRING HIM HOME), Nerlens Noel (BRING HIM HOME-ish), Justin Holiday. I wonder what Moe Harkless will get in FA. Get him to take all the Semi minutes and I would be a happy man. Gonna be a busy offseason, love this god damn sport and how much turnover there is. Imagine if the league didn't turn over like half the players ever year, I'd be going insane still watching Marcus Morris every day. Year-over-year Celtics had nine new players this year. Last year they had five, the year before they had 16 new players (granted 6 of them played under 200 minutes). Don't stagnate, constantly churn the mid- and back-end, please.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#42 » by Bostondave » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:57 am

I think the team needs tweaking. Not blowing up. Hayward needs to go. The experiment has failed. He's damaged goods physically and mentally. The bench is trash. Everyone else is ok. Theis, Williamses are keepers. Langford is intriguing. Smart needs to play a role and not look to lead or score all the time. Everyone else can go. The team needs veteran help. Not sure why they played "young" at this point but they did. That was the inconsistency we saw. Kemba was a disappoiintment because he should have been that leader. Everything should have flown through him. For some reason he didn't step up. Perhaps because he's never gotten that far before in his career.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#43 » by klemen4 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:55 am

Probably we will return with same team and than see at trade deadline what Hayward can get us in a trade.

Walker/Wannamaker/Waters
Smart/Langford
Brown/Hayward
Tatum/Williams
Williams/Theis/Kanter

- sign Waters for 3 year minimum contract
- resign Wanamaker for one year minimum contract

Gone: Poirier, Green, Oyeleje, Edwards

Key imo is giving minutes to Timelord, than if he produces, we do not need to make a Hayward trade...if Timelord is not a future C than you try to get one with Hayward trade.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

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How do they know its Kemba and not a revival for Antoine jerseys?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

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How do they know its Kemba and not a revival for Antoine jerseys?

Kids' sizes.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

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How do they know its Kemba and not a revival for Antoine jerseys?

Kids' sizes.

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#49 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:20 am

If I am Ainge the first thing I would do is try to put together a package for the following (given Gordon Hayward opts in).

1. Oladipo and Turner
2. Vucevic and Ross
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Post#50 » by jfs1000d » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:57 am

Lets assume we run it back with the top 6. We can debate trading Hayward or Smart after. I don't think tatum, Brown and Walker are touchable.

Theis has a $5 million option and is cheap. So he is on the team as is Rob Williams.

After that? I think we will see a ton change. 8 players above.

Then, we need to really get shooters and defenders here.

Safe from cut:
Grant
Romeo


Probably Out:
Kanter (just not what we need)
Wannamaker (could be looking to get paid/More PT)
Semi (Not good enough)
Green (not goof enough)
Poirer (not good enough)

Bubble:
Edwards
Waters
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#51 » by GotDaSauce » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:07 am

jfs1000d wrote:Lets assume we run it back with the top 6. We can debate trading Hayward or Smart after. I don't think tatum, Brown and Walker are touchable.

Theis has a $5 million option and is cheap. So he is on the team as is Rob Williams.

After that? I think we will see a ton change. 8 players above.

Then, we need to really get shooters and defenders here.

Safe from cut:
Grant
Romeo


Probably Out:
Kanter (just not what we need)
Wannamaker (could be looking to get paid/More PT)
Semi (Not good enough)
Green (not goof enough)
Poirer (not good enough)

Bubble:
Edwards
Waters
Tako

I would try and keep Wanamaker if the money was right and move up Waters from his 2 way. Green might stick around because he is besties with Tatum and that has its benefits but everyone else from the Probably out list can kick rocks! We need to get Brads binky off this team. The guy seems really nice but I'm done with the Semi experience.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#52 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:31 am

Celts17Pride wrote:If I am Ainge the first thing I would do is try to put together a package for the following (given Gordon Hayward opts in).

1. Oladipo and Turner
2. Vucevic and Ross

I'm all for #1, Turner and then Oladipo (or others).
That would/could/should answer some of our needs.

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jfs1000d wrote:Lets assume we run it back with the top 6. We can debate trading Hayward or Smart after. I don't think tatum, Brown and Walker are touchable.

Theis has a $5 million option and is cheap. So he is on the team as is Rob Williams.

After that? I think we will see a ton change. 8 players above.

Then, we need to really get shooters and defenders here.

Safe from cut:
Grant
Romeo


Probably Out:
Kanter (just not what we need)
Wannamaker (could be looking to get paid/More PT)
Semi (Not good enough)
Green (not goof enough)
Poirer (not good enough)

Bubble:
Edwards
Waters
Tako

I would try and keep Wanamaker if the money was right and move up Waters from his 2 way. Green might stick around because he is besties with Tatum and that has its benefits but everyone else from the Probably out list can kick rocks! We need to get Brads binky off this team. The guy seems really nice but I'm done with the Semi experience.

I gotta agree that Kanter is Probably Out. Though, he really is a good person, for the locker room and off-court.
Wanamaker gets my vote to stick, if the money is right.

I'd like to move up both Waters & Fall to an NBA contract.
Tacko will get onto a roster somewhere; I'd like it to be here. Especially since we invested our time in him.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#53 » by batabatuta » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:32 am

Hayward's salary can get you 2 players who can be elite role players who are more durable than Gordo.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#54 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:09 am

batabatuta wrote:Hayward's salary can get you 2 players who can be elite role players who are more durable than Gordo.

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#55 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:27 am

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#56 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:53 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:If I am Ainge the first thing I would do is try to put together a package for the following (given Gordon Hayward opts in).

1. Oladipo and Turner
2. Vucevic and Ross

I'm all for #1, Turner and then Oladipo (or others).
That would/could/should answer some of our needs.

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jfs1000d wrote:Lets assume we run it back with the top 6. We can debate trading Hayward or Smart after. I don't think tatum, Brown and Walker are touchable.

Theis has a $5 million option and is cheap. So he is on the team as is Rob Williams.

After that? I think we will see a ton change. 8 players above.

Then, we need to really get shooters and defenders here.

Safe from cut:
Grant
Romeo


Probably Out:
Kanter (just not what we need)
Wannamaker (could be looking to get paid/More PT)
Semi (Not good enough)
Green (not goof enough)
Poirer (not good enough)

Bubble:
Edwards
Waters
Tako

I would try and keep Wanamaker if the money was right and move up Waters from his 2 way. Green might stick around because he is besties with Tatum and that has its benefits but everyone else from the Probably out list can kick rocks! We need to get Brads binky off this team. The guy seems really nice but I'm done with the Semi experience.

I gotta agree that Kanter is Probably Out. Though, he really is a good person, for the locker room and off-court.
Wanamaker gets my vote to stick, if the money is right.

I'd like to move up both Waters & Fall to an NBA contract.
Tacko will get onto a roster somewhere; I'd like it to be here. Especially since we invested our time in him.


Love the kids but if we are making room for guys, I don't want more youth on our bench. I will get behind it but I don't want that to happen. I want us to add a few rugged vets. I'm not sure who atm but I want us to have the room when they become available.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#57 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:17 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:Am I the only one who would love to replace Theis with Ibaka?

Sure, you gonna pay Ibaka 20+ million a year, though? I'd love to replace Wanamaker with Fred Van Vleet while we're at it.

MLE-and-under guys I like are PJ Dozier (BRING HIM HOME), Nerlens Noel (BRING HIM HOME-ish), Justin Holiday. I wonder what Moe Harkless will get in FA. Get him to take all the Semi minutes and I would be a happy man. Gonna be a busy offseason, love this god damn sport and how much turnover there is. Imagine if the league didn't turn over like half the players ever year, I'd be going insane still watching Marcus Morris every day. Year-over-year Celtics had nine new players this year. Last year they had five, the year before they had 16 new players (granted 6 of them played under 200 minutes). Don't stagnate, constantly churn the mid- and back-end, please.


Harkless is nice, but kinda useless with the amount of wings we have.
I wrote that before, but Ibaka has a really good agent and has always been getting more money than he's worth.
Baynes is about to cash in, too. He turned into Ray Allen this year.
Hmm, the only way I see us upgrading significantly is via trade or via drafting.
Good assessment:

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#58 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:25 am

Celts17Pride wrote:If I am Ainge the first thing I would do is try to put together a package for the following (given Gordon Hayward opts in).

1. Oladipo and Turner
2. Vucevic and Ross


I've always been high on Vucevic. I think he's underrated. There's a problem there, despite the obvious need for a big, Brad struggles big time with when it comes to adding bigs. Vuc is 20/10 guy on our team given the opportunity, and his defensive stats have been really decent the past 2 seasons.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#59 » by Saint Lazarus » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:28 am

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Post#60 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:33 am

Watching Miami and LAL, if Theis was our second big, we'd be in the Finals, with a decent chance to win a title. Danny needs to wake up. Vuc in the middle of that zone, would be destroying. I dunno about Turner, he's definitely not a better player than Vuc, but much younger with good potential. Oladipo is good, too, when healthy, I dunno if he's healthy or if he has IT anymore.

I'd take Vuc and Ross over Turner and Oladipo. Vuc and Ross are lower risk, higher reward type situation for us. Vuc just had a 36 point game against the Bucks on a sorry ass, injured Orlando team.
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