2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[djFan71]

Count me on the Paul Reed hype train. Draft him at #14. We'll find our Shadiq Bey elsewhere.

I was really high on Reggie last year, but it's become apparent he doesn't even have the lateral movement to even play the 5 in the NBA. He's Europe bound unless he becomes a neutral defender all of a sudden.

No one is talking about him at 14, looking at 26 or 30

He won't be there at #26 at all.

Yep, I've talked about him at 14. Only a few mocks have him gone by 26, but I think that changes on draft day.

[jayu70]

This guys has a similar skill set to Hayward. He is able to facilitate offensive flow.
My magic 8ball says Hayward is getting traded . We are moving up either with Atlanta or NY and getting Halliburton.
I could actually see Hayward in Atlanta to help run the offence with Trae. With NEw York I could see a lesser player and a couple of picks. or a three team deal with HAyward to Indy ect.

Hawks aren't trading #6 to move down 8 spots and get 1 year of Hayward at $34 million blowing chuncks of their $42 million in capspace in one deal.

Not like his salary for one year is hurting you guys since you won't sign any good max free agents anyways lol

The only max FAs are AD and Ingram. Doesn't mean we'll be trading down to take Haywards bloated contract. There are enough lower tier FAs to use $42 million dollars on to adequately fill in our bench.

[NuckyPowell]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

[Squigglepuffin]

If we trade up and draft Haliburton while Killian Hayes is still on the board Danny will never live it down. Hayes will end up as the best player from this draft imo.

Danny will never live it down? That presumes that you are correct in your assessment of Hayes vs Halliburton.

Correct.

I believe I'm pretty good at assessing players. No one is perfect though but I think over time I've now become pretty good.

I will say that if Haliburton were to weigh as much as 190lbs rather than 175lbs I would have a much, much more difficult time saying Killian Hayes will be better.

[Squigglepuffin]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

He will be the steal of the draft. He deserves to be drafted in the lottery at the very least. In 5 years time I think there will be a legitimate conversation that he should have been drafted in the top 10. He's unbelievably underrated. Imo he'll be one of the best players to come from this draft.

[NuckyPowell]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

He will be the steal of the draft. He deserves to be drafted in the lottery at the very least. In 5 years time I think there will be a legitimate conversation that he should have been drafted in the top 10. He's unbelievably underrated. Imo he'll be one of the best players to come from this draft.

That’s high praise. I hope we snag him if he’s anywhere near that good.

[Spin Move]

If we trade up and draft Haliburton while Killian Hayes is still on the board Danny will never live it down. Hayes will end up as the best player from this draft imo.

Danny will never live it down? That presumes that you are correct in your assessment of Hayes vs Halliburton.

Correct.

I believe I'm pretty good at assessing players. No one is perfect though but I think over time I've now become pretty good.

I will say that if Haliburton were to weigh as much as 190lbs rather than 175lbs I would have a much, much more difficult time saying Killian Hayes will be better.

Where does your experience at assessing players come from?

[captain green]

Danny will never live it down? That presumes that you are correct in your assessment of Hayes vs Halliburton.

Correct.

I believe I'm pretty good at assessing players. No one is perfect though but I think over time I've now become pretty good.

I will say that if Haliburton were to weigh as much as 190lbs rather than 175lbs I would have a much, much more difficult time saying Killian Hayes will be better.

Where does your experience at assessing players come from?

he bought it at Target for 49 bucks, jk totally decent track record as far as I I can recall.but overall I think it comes down to which team drafts them I think both can hit bust, great, and rotation impact. Comes down to whom grooms who both can adapt.

[Squigglepuffin]

Correct.

I believe I'm pretty good at assessing players. No one is perfect though but I think over time I've now become pretty good.

I will say that if Haliburton were to weigh as much as 190lbs rather than 175lbs I would have a much, much more difficult time saying Killian Hayes will be better.

Where does your experience at assessing players come from?

he bought it at Target for 49 bucks, jk

It was 50 bucks actually

Just over the past ten years before drafts making my own rankings for my own enjoyment then looking back years later and saying to myself, "I was right about this player, I was wrong about this player, why was I wrong? What did I fail to take into account?"

After you do that enough times you slowly through trial and error tweak your understanding to a pretty solid point which I think I'm finally at now in 2020 - but it's still the draft, no one can tell the future.

As much as any of us can predict we can't sit in on interviews like executives of teams can, or speak to their college coaches, etc. Eg: I thought Sullinger was a great pick but how was I or anyone to know he eventually wouldn't have the motivation to stay in shape?

Haliburton has a lot going for him. It's just his weight that's a concern. It's not like I'm saying he's going to bust. I do believe Cole Anthony has bust written all over him and will be at best a bench player in the NBA though and that's being generous - and Haliburton is much, much better than Anthony.

[TommyPointGawd]

It was 50 bucks actually

Just over the past ten years before drafts making my own rankings for my own enjoyment then looking back years later and saying to myself, "I was right about this player, I was wrong about this player, why was I wrong? What did I fail to take into account?"

After you do that enough times you slowly through trial and error tweak your understanding to a pretty solid point which I think I'm finally at now in 2020 - but it's still the draft, no one can tell the future.

As much as any of us can predict we can't sit in on interviews like executives of teams can, or speak to their college coaches, etc. Eg: I thought Sullinger was a great pick but how was I or anyone to know he eventually wouldn't have the motivation to stay in shape?

Haliburton has a lot going for him. It's just his weight that's a concern. It's not like I'm saying he's going to bust. I do believe Cole Anthony has bust written all over him and will be at best a bench player in the NBA though and that's being generous - and Haliburton is much, much better than Anthony.

Why don't you just hold on to your original opinion no matter what happens. Like the rest of us.

[ConstableGeneva]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

[Squigglepuffin]

It was 50 bucks actually

Just over the past ten years before drafts making my own rankings for my own enjoyment then looking back years later and saying to myself, "I was right about this player, I was wrong about this player, why was I wrong? What did I fail to take into account?"

After you do that enough times you slowly through trial and error tweak your understanding to a pretty solid point which I think I'm finally at now in 2020 - but it's still the draft, no one can tell the future.

As much as any of us can predict we can't sit in on interviews like executives of teams can, or speak to their college coaches, etc. Eg: I thought Sullinger was a great pick but how was I or anyone to know he eventually wouldn't have the motivation to stay in shape?

Haliburton has a lot going for him. It's just his weight that's a concern. It's not like I'm saying he's going to bust. I do believe Cole Anthony has bust written all over him and will be at best a bench player in the NBA though and that's being generous - and Haliburton is much, much better than Anthony.

Why don't you just hold on to your original opinion no matter what happens. Like the rest of us.

In order to improve at anything it's necessary after a fair amount of time has passed to be able to take a step back and objectively evaluate predictions, admit a prediction was wrong and then question why, then use what has been learned the next draft to make a more accurate prediction. If that doesn't happen improvements can't really be made.

[Roddy]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

That's why we should trade at least 2 of our 3 first round picks.

We need veterans and experience, no more rookies.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If December 22 start date pushes through, these rookies are gonna get buried in the rotation more than usual. With no summer league, there's not much time to familiarize themselves with team/schemes. I imagine schedule will be a bit condensed too so practices could even be more limited. And when there are practices, no real scrimmages either to prioritize rest. I see a lot of Maine time in these kids' immediate future.

Its why I’m changing up my board a little and rising guys like Saddiq Bey. He doesnt have the highest ceiling, but he will play for us right away which means he’s one of the players most likely to hit his ceiling on our team.

[SmartWentCrazy]

They are high on Haliburton, that’s all I know personally. But like, there are a handful of guys in every draft that they’re high on and don’t trade up for. And even what I hear has to be taken with a grain of salt, it’s not exactly reload level intel.

TBF 2017-18 reload was on a GOAT tear.

We will never have an insider like that again. He was unreal. Had the Kyrie is out for the year weeks before mainstream.

I forgot about one— does anyone remember when someone broke that crazy story about Lucky getting fired years back. That was a GOAT scoop.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

Watch on YouTube

[ConstableGeneva]

Best 14th pick in last 20 seasons: Bam Adebayo, TJ Warren, Michael Porter Jr. (TBD), Marcus Morris
Best 26th pick in last 20 seasons: George Hill, Taj Gibson, Kevin Martin
Best 30th pick in last 20 seasons: Jimmy Butler, David Lee, Anderson Varejao

I will settle for the next Adebayo, Butler, and Hill in this draft. Yabusele, James Young, and RJ Hunter would be cool too.

[Spin Move]

I think its really likley some kind of trade happens I dont think we ar2 making 4 selections.

At 14 if we keep it I am feelibg Nesmith, J. Smith Precious and Kira

At 26 and 30 Oturo Tyler Bey ninaj tre jones reed and Bane all seem interesting

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[Patsfan1081]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

[captain green]

Looking at the list of meetings is it just me or are almost all the guys late first/second round projected talent?

That's what I'm seeing a couple low key names that could be 14 but it looks like we're looking at 30 and 47 area