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Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1

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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1 

Post#281 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:36 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Al Horford plus picks traded for Danny Green.


Dude already locked up GM of the year getting rid of Al's contract :o
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Post#282 » by Cuban Pete » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:39 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Al Horford plus picks traded for Danny Green.


Question is which first round pick, tonight's or a future #1.

Philly is one of those teams that's got the ammo to move up in the draft. They have the 34 and 36th picks overall.
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Post#283 » by Cuban Pete » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:40 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Al Horford plus picks traded for Danny Green.


Dude already locked up GM of the year getting rid of Al's contract :o


Not without cost.
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Post#284 » by Cuban Pete » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:42 pm

Cuban Pete wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Al Horford plus picks traded for Danny Green.


Question is which first round pick, tonight's or a future #1.

Philly is one of those teams that's got the ammo to move up in the draft. They have the 34 and 36th picks overall.


Ok

Hoops Rumors wrote:The two picks headed to Oklahoma City are the Sixers’ 2025 first-round pick – which will be “lightly” protected – and the 34th pick in tonight’s draft, sources tell Wojnarowski (Twitter link). According to Woj (Twitter link), Philadelphia will also receive wing Terrance Ferguson in the swap, while OKC will acquire the rights to draft-and-stash prospect Vasilije Micic, a 26-year-old who is considered one of the top point guards in Europe.
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Post#285 » by Taget » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:42 pm

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Post#286 » by sam_I_am » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:47 pm

Klay Thompson injured his leg today. Hope it’s not serious.
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Post#287 » by leper-con » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:50 pm

Lets all take a moment to acknowledge the late Tommy Heinsohn as we enter the first draft without him in God knows how long.
hoist a beer. And Tommy if you can still bleed Green in the after life send us an all star.
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Post#288 » by Gomes3PC » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:44 am

Apparently Klay's injury is an Achilles. Awful.
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Post#289 » by SuperDeluxe » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:22 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Apparently Klay's injury is an Achilles. Awful.


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Post#290 » by Gomes3PC » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm

Brutal. Honestly think this might have been a contributor to scuttling whatever deal Ainge had to move up to #2. Completely changes the timeline/complexion of GSWs future.
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Post#291 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:04 pm

Old friend Kelly Olynyk opted in to his player option in Miami.
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Post#292 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:44 pm

Ilyasova being waived suggests to me the league decreed privately that the Bucks/Kings deal would never be allowed, due to the rule-breaking/-bending around its announcement.
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Post#293 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:45 pm

leper-con wrote:Lets all take a moment to acknowledge the late Tommy Heinsohn as we enter the first draft without him in God knows how long.
hoist a beer. And Tommy if you can still bleed Green in the after life send us an all star.


Well, we did draft a couple of guys said to have high motors. Tommy liked that.
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Post#294 » by soxfan2003 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:44 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Brutal. Honestly think this might have been a contributor to scuttling whatever deal Ainge had to move up to #2. Completely changes the timeline/complexion of GSWs future.


Ainge never had a deal to move up according to the press reports that I read. I don't even think it was close at all.... I really thought the odds of Celtics getting #2 from the Warriors were less than 1%. I do think the Warriors interest in Smart was genuine but the Warriors wanted significantly more than Marcus Smart. And Ainge wasn't prepared to pay that price. So, no deal and probably short phone conversations.

If Warriors had the third pick instead of the 2nd, it would have been easier to pry it loose from them since was fairly certain going into the draft they like Wiseman and Edwards. I do not think they liked Ball. He reminded them a little too much of DLo who they never liked at all. Warriors knew all along that DLo was a poor fit but they just acquired him to flip him.

I believe the Warriors board based a little bit on need was 1) Wiseman 2) Edwards. I am not even sure if Klay's injury flipped their board. The Warriors know with the Lakers having Lebron and Davis, they need more than just Draymond Green to compete even if Klay was healthy.
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Post#295 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:46 pm

That's brutal. And they drafted a big at #2. That dynasty continuation window closed in a second.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1 

Post#296 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:56 am

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Gomes3PC wrote:Brutal. Honestly think this might have been a contributor to scuttling whatever deal Ainge had to move up to #2. Completely changes the timeline/complexion of GSWs future.


Ainge never had a deal to move up according to the press reports that I read. I don't even think it was close at all.... I really thought the odds of Celtics getting #2 from the Warriors were less than 1%. I do think the Warriors interest in Smart was genuine but the Warriors wanted significantly more than Marcus Smart. And Ainge wasn't prepared to pay that price. So, no deal and probably short phone conversations.

If Warriors had the third pick instead of the 2nd, it would have been easier to pry it loose from them since was fairly certain going into the draft they like Wiseman and Edwards. I do not think they liked Ball. He reminded them a little too much of DLo who they never liked at all. Warriors knew all along that DLo was a poor fit but they just acquired him to flip him.

I believe the Warriors board based a little bit on need was 1) Wiseman 2) Edwards. I am not even sure if Klay's injury flipped their board. The Warriors know with the Lakers having Lebron and Davis, they need more than just Draymond Green to compete even if Klay was healthy.

like smart and hayward while dumping a terrible contract on us. All for 2 pick in a non top heavy draft
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Post#297 » by Cuban Pete » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 am

Here's a list of draft picks and UDFAs by team for 2020...


6. Atlanta Hawks: Onyeka Okongwu, C, USC
50. Atlanta Hawks (from Heat): Skylar Mays, G, LSU
UDFA Atlanta Hawks: Nathan Knight, C, William & Mary (TW)

14. Boston Celtics (from Grizzlies): Aaron Nesmith, F, Vanderbilt
26. Boston Celtics: Payton Pritchard, G, Oregon
47. Boston Celtics (from Nets): Yam Madar, G, Israel

57. Brooklyn Nets (from Clippers): Reggie Perry, C, Mississippi State
UDFA Brooklyn Nets: Jordan Bowden, G, Tennessee (Ex10)

3. Charlotte Hornets: LaMelo Ball, G, USA
32. Charlotte Hornets (from Cavaliers): Vernon Carey Jr., C, Duke
42. Charlotte Hornets (from Pelicans): Nick Richards, C, Kentucky
56. Charlotte Hornets (from Celtics): Grant Riller, G, Charleston
UDFA Charlotte Hornets: Nate Darling, G, Delaware (TW)
UDFA Charlotte Hornets: Kahlil Whitney, F, Kentucky (Ex10)
UDFA Charlotte Hornets: Javin DeLaurier, F, Duke (Ex10)

4. Chicago Bulls: Patrick Williams, F, Florida State
44. Chicago Bulls (from Grizzlies): Marko Simonovic, C, Montenegro
UDFA Chicago Bulls: Devon Dotson, G, Kansas (TW)

5. Cleveland Cavaliers: Isaac Okoro, F, Auburn
UDFA Cleveland Cavaliers: Lamar Stevens, G, Penn St (TW)

18. Dallas Mavericks: Josh Green, Arizona, G
31. Dallas Mavericks (from Warriors): Tyrell Terry, G, Stanford
36. Dallas Mavericks (from Knicks via Sixers): Tyler Bey, F, Colorado (TW)
UDFA Dallas Mavericks: Nate Hinton, G, Houston (TW)
UDFA Dallas Mavericks: Freddie Gillespie, C, Baylor (Ex10)

22. Denver Nuggets (from Rockets): Zeke Nnaji, F, Arizona
24. Denver Nuggets (from Pacers via Pelicans): RJ Hampton, G, USA
UDFA Denver Nuggets: Markus Howard, G, Marquette (TW)

7. Detroit Pistons: Killian Hayes, G, France
16. Detroit Pistons (from Trail Blazers via Rockets): Isaiah Stewart, C, Washington
19. Detroit Pistons (from Sixers via Nets): Saddiq Bey, F, Villanova
38. Detroit Pistons (from Hornets via Jazz): Saben Lee, G, Vanderbilt (TW)

2. Golden State Warriors: James Wiseman, C, Memphis
48. Golden State Warriors (from Mavericks): Nico Mannion, G, Arizona
51. Golden State Warriors (from Jazz): Justinian Jessup, G, Boise State

52. Houston Rockets (via Kings): Kenyon Martin Jr., F, IMG Academy
UDFA Houston Rockets: Mason Jones, G, Arkansas (TW)
UDFA Houston Rockets: Trevelin Queen, G, New Mexico St
UDFA Houston Rockets: Brodric Thomas, G, Truman St (Ex10)

54. Indiana Pacers: Cassius Stanley, G, Duke
UDFA Indiana Pacers: Rayshaun Hammonds, F, Georgia (Ex10)

33. Los Angeles Clippers (from Timberwolves via Knicks): Daniel Oturu, C, Minnesota
55. Los Angeles Clippers (from Nuggets via Nets): Jay Scrubb, G, John A. Logan College (TW)
UDFA Los Angeles Clippers: Jordan Ford, G, St Mary's (Ex10)
UDFA Los Angeles Clippers: Malik Fitts, F, St Mary's (Ex10)

UDFA Los Angeles Lakers: Zavier Simpson, G, Michigan (Ex10)
UDFA Los Angeles Lakers: Tres Tinkle, F, Oregon St (Ex10)

30. Memphis Grizzlies (from Bucks via Celtics): Desmond Bane, G, TCU
35. Memphis Grizzlies (from Pistons via Kings): Xavier Tillman, C, Michigan State
UDFA Memphis Grizzlies: Killian Tillie, F, Gonzaga (TW)
UDFA Memphis Grizzlies: Sean McDermott, F, Butler (TW)
UDFA Memphis Grizzlies: Jahil Tripp, G, Pacific (Ex10)

20. Miami Heat: Precious Achiuwa, F, Memphis

45. Milwaukee Bucks (from Magic): Jordan Nwora, F, Louisville
60. Milwaukee Bucks (via Pelicans): Sam Merrill, G, Utah State

1. Minnesota Timberwolves: Anthony Edwards, G, Georgia
23. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Jazz via Knicks): Leandro Bolmaro, G, Argentina
28. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Lakers via Thunder): Jaden McDaniels, F, Washington
UDFA Minnesota Timberwolves: Ashton Hagans, G, Kentucky (TW)

13. New Orleans Pelicans: Kira Lewis Jr., G, Alabama
UDFA New Orleans Pelicans: Naji Marshall, F, Xavier (TW)

8. New York Knicks: Obi Toppin, F, Dayton
25. New York Knicks (from Nuggets via Timberwolves): Immanuel Quickley, G, Kentucky
UDFA New York Knicks: Myles Powell, G, Seton Hall (Ex10)

17. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Nets via Timberwolves): Aleksej Pokusevski, F, Serbia
34. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Hawks via Sixers): Theo Maledon, G, France
37. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Bulls via Wizards): Vit Krejci, G, Czech Republic
UDFA Oklahoma City Thunder: Omer Yurtseven, C, Georgetown (Ex10)
UDFA Oklahoma City Thunder: Josh Hall, F, Moravian Prep Academy H.S.

15. Orlando Magic: Cole Anthony, G, UNC
UDFA Orlando Magic: Karim Mane, G, Vanier College (Canada) (TW)
UDFA Orlando Magic: John Teske, C, Michigan

21. Philadelphia 76ers (from Thunder): Tyrese Maxey, G, Kentucky
49. Philadelphia 76ers: Isaiah Joe, G, Arkansas
58. Philadelphia 76ers (from Lakers): Paul Reed, F, DePaul

10. Phoenix Suns: Jalen Smith, F/C, Maryland
UDFA Phoenix Suns: Ty-Shon Alexander, G, Creighton (TW)

46. Portland Trail Blazers: CJ Elleby, G, Washington State

12. Sacramento Kings: Tyrese Haliburton, G, Iowa State
40. Sacramento Kings (from Suns via Grizzlies): Robert Woodard, F, Mississippi State
43. Sacramento Kings: Jahmi’us Ramsey, G, Texas Tech
UDFA Sacramento Kings: Quinton Rose, G, Temple (Ex10)

11. San Antonio Spurs: Devin Vassell, G/F, Florida State
41. San Antonio Spurs: Tre Jones, G, Duke

29. Toronto Raptors: Malachi Flynn, G San Diego State
59. Toronto Raptors: Jalen Harris, G, Nevada

27. Utah Jazz (from Clippers via Knicks): Udoka Azubuike, C, Kansas
39. Utah Jazz (from Wizards via Pelicans): Elijah Hughes, G, Syracuse
UDFA Utah Jazz: Trent Forrest, G, Florida St (TW)
UDFA Utah Jazz: Romaro Gill, C, Seton Hall (Ex10)

9. Washington Wizards: Deni Avdija, F, Israel
53. Washington Wizards (from Thunder): Cassius Winston, G, Michigan State
UDFA Washington Wizards: Yoeli Childs, F, BYU
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Post#300 » by djFan71 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:08 pm

Can the Heat legally pay for insurance (disability type) for Bam waiting a year on the max contract? That's a heck of an ask otherwise. If he gets hurt this year (or just isn't as effective), and they don't offer it to him, he's screwed. Obviously, they're under no obligation to extend him early, and the potential teammate upside is very nice, but it definitely adds risk for Bam.

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