Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

CeltsfaninDC · Post #81 » by **CeltsfaninDC** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:21 pm

You guys need to stop listening to toxic Boston sports radio. Its comical to see these absurd hot takes

ciueli · Post #82 » by **ciueli** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:24 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:2013
Year 1 of the rebuild after losing the Big Three. Takes Olynyk over Giannis or Gobert
2014
takes James Young over Bogdan, Jokic, Grant, Capela and Dinwiddie
2016
fake roster crunch so he drafts and stashes Yabusele and Zizic instead of drafting Dejounte, LeVert, Siakam or Brogdon
2017
trades for disgruntled head case Kyrie rental that costs us the #8 pick in the 2018 draft (SGA or MPJ)
2019
signs Kemba lmao
takes Langford over Sekou, Samanic
trades out of #20 instead of taking Clarke
takes Grant Williams over Bazley
takes Carsen Edwards over Bol, Roby, Paschall
2020
trades #30 pick instead of taking Robert Woodard II or Tyler Bey who would be Hayward replacement

Ainge has BEEN bad. Imagine if he didn't get a clueless Russian owner to hand him that Nets haul? There'd have been no Jaylen and no Tatum. He's not good folks. Of course he needs to go. He's always been a disastrous drafter but now even his trades have fallen off. We're a treadmill team that might very well lose Tatum because of his ineptitude. But as long as he has fans defending him and an owner happy to fill sits and not delve into the luxury tax he's seemingly here for life.

You forgot "Tried to trade 4 future first round picks (including one of the Nets' picks) for Justise Winslow and was only saved from disaster because Michael Jordan said no."

Green89 · Post #83 » by **Green89** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:36 pm

AKFO wrote:All this because because we didn't get Myles Turner

The player we got for Hayward instead of Turner is so much better.

Post #84 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:42 pm

I still can't believe he didn't draft Nikola Jokic at pick 17. Inexcusable.

KGboss · Post #85 » by **KGboss** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:43 pm

This was pretty bad not gunna lie lol

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KGboss · Post #86 » by **KGboss** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:I still can't believe he didn't draft Nikola Jokic at pick 17. Inexcusable.

Or Giannis instead of olynyk

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jirrit · Post #87 » by **jirrit** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:52 pm

Gomes3PC · Post #88 » by **Gomes3PC** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm

I've generally had no real issues with Ainge to date. Yes he misses some draft picks and the roster could always be tweaked better here or there.

Overplaying his hand with this Hayward debacle though is a Class A **** up. Zero debate, he extinguished massive value by getting greedy. Instead of two quality vets for the rotation at fair cap numbers that could easily fit and/or be flipped for other pieces, we got nothing. AND we lost out on a huge number of FAs out there who could have helped us because this Hayward saga dragged out so long.

Ed Pinkney · Post #89 » by **Ed Pinkney** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:04 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:2013
Year 1 of the rebuild after losing the Big Three. Takes Olynyk over Giannis or Gobert
2014
takes James Young over Bogdan, Jokic, Grant, Capela and Dinwiddie
2016
fake roster crunch so he drafts and stashes Yabusele and Zizic instead of drafting Dejounte, LeVert, Siakam or Brogdon
2017
trades for disgruntled head case Kyrie rental that costs us the #8 pick in the 2018 draft (SGA or MPJ)
2019
signs Kemba lmao
takes Langford over Sekou, Samanic
trades out of #20 instead of taking Clarke
takes Grant Williams over Bazley
takes Carsen Edwards over Bol, Roby, Paschall
2020
trades #30 pick instead of taking Robert Woodard II or Tyler Bey who would be Hayward replacement

Ainge has BEEN bad. Imagine if he didn't get a clueless Russian owner to hand him that Nets haul? There'd have been no Jaylen and no Tatum. He's not good folks. Of course he needs to go. He's always been a disastrous drafter but now even his trades have fallen off. We're a treadmill team that might very well lose Tatum because of his ineptitude. But as long as he has fans defending him and an owner happy to fill sits and not delve into the luxury tax he's seemingly here for life.

Retro actively going back and picking the random guys who massively outperform their draft position, or no one thought would become what they did, is completely disingenuous. You need to apply that same logic to the other 29 teams who didn't draft those players then also.

KL78192020 · Post #90 » by **KL78192020** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Ed Pinkney wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:2013
Year 1 of the rebuild after losing the Big Three. Takes Olynyk over Giannis or Gobert
2014
takes James Young over Bogdan, Jokic, Grant, Capela and Dinwiddie
2016
fake roster crunch so he drafts and stashes Yabusele and Zizic instead of drafting Dejounte, LeVert, Siakam or Brogdon
2017
trades for disgruntled head case Kyrie rental that costs us the #8 pick in the 2018 draft (SGA or MPJ)
2019
signs Kemba lmao
takes Langford over Sekou, Samanic
trades out of #20 instead of taking Clarke
takes Grant Williams over Bazley
takes Carsen Edwards over Bol, Roby, Paschall
2020
trades #30 pick instead of taking Robert Woodard II or Tyler Bey who would be Hayward replacement

Ainge has BEEN bad. Imagine if he didn't get a clueless Russian owner to hand him that Nets haul? There'd have been no Jaylen and no Tatum. He's not good folks. Of course he needs to go. He's always been a disastrous drafter but now even his trades have fallen off. We're a treadmill team that might very well lose Tatum because of his ineptitude. But as long as he has fans defending him and an owner happy to fill sits and not delve into the luxury tax he's seemingly here for life.

Retro actively going back and picking the random guys who massively outperform their draft position, or no one thought would become what they did, is completely disingenuous. You need to apply that same logic to the other 29 teams who didn't draft those players then also.

I agree although the Celtics could definitely stand to improve drafting outside of the lotto.

gocelts · Post #91 » by **gocelts** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:28 pm

this thread is a total Joke. People just need a few years of a really bad GM to appreciate a good one. Maybe we should bring Wallace and Pitino back?

Ainge is still one of the best. Glad he didnt overpay for Al last year and didnt overpay for Hayward this year.

Sorry to see Hayward go for nothing but we got back what we originally gave up for him to begin with...NOTHING.

Asian Celtic · Post #92 » by **Asian Celtic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:30 pm

For the second time, **** Ainge!

Post #93 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 pm

Is this the Pissed off thread?
Cause I'm Pissed Off!!!

MrGreenRunsDeep · Post #94 » by **MrGreenRunsDeep** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Is this the Pissed off thread?
Cause I'm Pissed Off!!!

I’m with you brother

KGboss · Post #95 » by **KGboss** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:35 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Is this the Pissed off thread?
Cause I'm Pissed Off!!!

I'm going to go out back and shout at squirrels!!!!

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Post #96 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:38 pm

MrGreenRunsDeep wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Is this the Pissed off thread?
Cause I'm Pissed Off!!!

I’m with you brother

This Really Sucks!!!

Word is, that Hayward was all ready to take the $100/4yr deal with Indiana.
But Danny haggled over the return. Not agreeing to Turner and McDermott in a S&T.

Now Hayward is gone. And we got zilch.

Danny Screwed it Up!!!

MrGreenRunsDeep · Post #97 » by **MrGreenRunsDeep** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:41 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
MrGreenRunsDeep wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Is this the Pissed off thread?
Cause I'm Pissed Off!!!

I’m with you brother

This Really Sucks!!!

Word is, that Hayward was all ready to take the $100/4yr deal with Indiana.
But Danny haggled over the return. Not agreeing to Turner and McDermott in a S&T.

Now Hayward is gone. And we got zilch.

Danny Screwed it Up!!!

I guess Celtics management care about Money coming in thn Championship ..

MrGreenRunsDeep · Post #98 » by **MrGreenRunsDeep** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:41 pm

Ainge you c********

BigTrade92 · Post #99 » by **BigTrade92** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:42 pm

I’m just glad I didn’t have to start the thread lol

ddb · Post #100 » by **ddb** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:48 pm

I’m just frustrated because Ainge has literally done nothing besides a very minor trade that brought us back nothing but A little cap flexibility in which he has yet to use