soxfan2003 wrote:JediMasterRevan wrote:soxfan2003 wrote:
Jaylen Brown career playoffs 3 point percentage is at 35.9% and he is left wide open a huge percentage of the time. Klay has people on him like a hawk and at higher volume in playoffs for his career is at 41.5%. And Klay has faced greater competition out west and also making it further.
Wiggins 38% from 3 on 5.2 attempts and I would never say he is remotely close to Klay as a 3 point shooter since it would be a joke to suggest it.
Comparing JB's shooting ability to Klay's has me stunned. Look at their free throw averages in every single year of their careers. Defenses heavily focus on Klay and stick to him like glue most of the time and sometimes even double him beyond the arc especially when Curry is out of the game. I live in Bay area so I have seen Klay play frequently. Defense of his a bit overrated at times but he is a great great 3 point shooter with a lightening quick release. He still has never shot less than 40% from 3 in his entire career during regular season.
JB has never shot 40% from 3 in any season and while JB hasn't ever had Curry, Klay did it without KD several seasons. And more importantly Brown has benefitted by Celtics often having a bunch of players that could space the floor such as Horford/IT/Irving/Tatum/Hayward/Kemba to a lesser extent.
This year on Warriors, Wiggins in all honestly played better defense on the Warriors than I have ever seen Brown play for an entire season. It wasn't game changing Pippen defense but it was very good and his coaches and teammates all said it. 21st in defensive RPM in entire NBA and he played a decent amount of minutes without Green/Curry.
Defense is half the game. Warriors much better defense and folks are not watching the regular season if they think Green carried them on that end. Green actually finished below Wiggins in DRPM this year. Green is still the better defender when he gives 100% or close to that but if you watch random Warrior home games that are not big nationally televised games, you realize he has slipped on defense in his consistency and its just hard for him to go all out/near all out as often. It is his passing/ballhandling on offense and pick setting that makes him better than Wiggins. Despite being a great defender, he never did(Bogut/Iggy, Klay and others all good to great on that end) and he is less capable of doing so now.
We were not talking about free throws. Was talkong aboit floor spacing.
And jaylens season amd klays last season were practically identical in attempts and in percentage.
And superior to wiggins.
Jaylen is arguably the second best player on gsw after the deal and a massive improvement to wiggins.
You are comparing different seasons. Shooting percentages/scoring went up with the pandemic and shortened season and less time between games. Klay is covered much more closely than JB from 3 in a normal season and you continue to fail to acknowledge that.
JB isn't a massive improvement over Wiggins overall for Golden State if Klay returns reasonable healthy. Now if Wiggins regresses next year and JB improves that is a different story.
If you are a career 85% free throw shooter like Klay and over a career 41% 3 point shooter like Klay it stands to reason that teams are afraid of your shooting ability from beyond the arc since you have displayed great overall shooting ability.
There are only 4 NBA players in NBA history with more 3's than Klay and a 3 point shooting average of over 40% like Klay. By the time he retires that could be down to 1-2 players in NBA history. Klay when he last played was clearly better than JB but I am not arguing that he will be next year since Klay may not be the same. But I am arguing if he is back healthy, he is clearly the much more respected 3 ball threat. One season at nearly 40% doesn't make someone an elite 3 point shooter.
Jaylen Brown is much better than Klay in areas like running the floor with his great speed for easy buckets but Klay has him completely outclassed in the halfcourt as a shooter. It is no contest at all when you look at their overall careers in regular season and playoffs.
Re the coverage on threes.
If jaylen for some miracle is not covered as much on his attempts as klay them all nba coaches are idiots for allowing a player to shoot 7 threes a game at a 40% clip.
And if you wamt to compare career, yes klays has been better, if you compare both players last complete season, Jaylen was better.
It is statistical fact.
