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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:49 am
by Tai
Scarletfire81 wrote:ConstableGeneva wrote:Yinwest wrote:Thoughts guys?
They need to clear a significant amount in order to sign Hayward outright. If this is even a thing, a third team would have to be involved imo.
We won't take on Batum or Zeller's contract even if they're expiring. Batum will put us over the tax. Zeller may not, but we already signed Thompson and have Theis/Timelord/Grant as backups.
The TPE is the prize here and whatever pick they can throw our way along with it. We can use both to sign an FA (why Bogdan's name is being brought up) or for midseason trades or for next offseason.
I thought the Hornets were waiving Batum to make room?
They could yes, but I guess this tells me the Hornets aren't fully prepared to do it yet. Otherwise what else is there to discuss with the Celtics lol?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:54 am
by ConstableGeneva
A lot of moving parts, but this works for me lol:
I'm unsure who gives/receives extra compensation in the form or a pick since everyone benefits in this deal.
Clippers get a PG they need although he's a clone of Reggie Jackson w/ a bit more defense.
Hornets get their guy and a couple of warm bodies. They won't have to waive-&-stretch Batum and clog their books.
Kings get a defensive pest for someone who's leaving anyway. Maybe they get a 2nd rounder from someone.
Celtics get another scorer/playmaker. We also get a TPE worth almost $12M.
Someone check for holes then send this to Adam Silver already!
EDIT: If the BAE is used to sign Teague instead of veteran's minimum exception, then Bogdan's starting salary would have to be a bit lower ($15M) for the Celtics to avoid the tax.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:58 am
by Yinwest
Thanks guys, so there is still hope, TPE would be nice
Come on Danny, give us something....
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:03 am
by CelticsLV
"Celtics are getting Bogdan" is the latest made up rumor people will get upset about not happening?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:05 am
by ConstableGeneva
CelticsLV wrote:"Celtics are getting Bogdan" is the latest made up rumor people will get upset about not happening?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:08 am
by BillessuR6
CelticsLV wrote:"Celtics are getting Bogdan" is the latest made up rumor people will get upset about not happening?
Unfortunately, yes.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:22 am
by Scarletfire81
If Ainge gets Bogdan, it would be a Doug Flutie Hail-Mary. I really hope it happens, so we can all laugh at the Fire Danny thread.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:37 am
by ConstableGeneva
Scarletfire81 wrote:If Ainge gets Bogdan, it would be a Doug Flutie Hail-Mary. I really hope it happens, so we can all laugh at the Fire Danny thread.
Come on, we all know Bogdanovic will be signed by either the Lakers or the Heat by the end of business hours. This is just to pass the time.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:40 am
by Maple Green
If we get Bog from Sac., I am gladly give Semi to Sac for free
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:57 am
by djFan71
3 team with Bulls? Bulls get Terry, CHA gets Satoransky. Saves enough to fit Gordon. We get full Gordon contract TPE.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:58 am
by ConstableGeneva
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:02 pm
by ConstableGeneva
djFan71 wrote:3 team with Bulls? Bulls get Terry, CHA gets Satoransky. Saves enough to fit Gordon. We get full Gordon contract TPE.
Can't they just cut us off? Or this is a case of I scratched your balls last offseason, you scratch mine.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:03 pm
by djFan71
ConstableGeneva wrote:djFan71 wrote:3 team with Bulls? Bulls get Terry, CHA gets Satoransky. Saves enough to fit Gordon. We get full Gordon contract TPE.
Can't they just cut us off? Or this is a case of I scratched your balls last offseason, you scratch mine.
Yeah, they could. We could take Felicio back too. Save CHI some money. Lessens the TPE, but we could waive him and still be under the tax. Keep TPE for next year.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:05 pm
by ConstableGeneva
djFan71 wrote:ConstableGeneva wrote:djFan71 wrote:3 team with Bulls? Bulls get Terry, CHA gets Satoransky. Saves enough to fit Gordon. We get full Gordon contract TPE.
Can't they just cut us off? Or this is a case of I scratched your balls last offseason, you scratch mine.
Yeah, they could. We could take Felicio back too. Save CHI some money. Lessens the TPE, but we could waive him and still be under the tax. Keep TPE for next year.
The Felicio portion may be necessary since CHI doesn't have the cap space to absorb all of Terry's salary.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:06 pm
by Saint Lazarus
Holy **** I finally caught up with the thread. Read like 120 pages today.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:08 pm
by djFan71
ConstableGeneva wrote:djFan71 wrote:ConstableGeneva wrote:Can't they just cut us off? Or this is a case of I scratched your balls last offseason, you scratch mine.
Yeah, they could. We could take Felicio back too. Save CHI some money. Lessens the TPE, but we could waive him and still be under the tax. Keep TPE for next year.
The Felicio portion may be necessary since CHI doesn't have the cap space to absorb all of Terry's salary.
Eh, it worked on tradenba..... but, yeah, that seems pretty solid all around doesn't it? Assuming CHA wants off Terry.
CHI: Terry for Sato/Felicio
CHA: Gordon for Terry
BOS: Felicio, TPE for Gordon
We can keep Felicio for trade ballast. Or waive him if we need the roster spot. Not sure anyone really needs picks even.
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:16 pm
by Saint Lazarus
Would people prefer Bogi or just the TPE and cap flexibility while avoiding the tax?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:31 pm
by ConstableGeneva
Saint Lazarus wrote:Would people prefer Bogi or just the TPE and cap flexibility while avoiding the tax?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:32 pm
by Saint Lazarus
ConstableGeneva wrote:Saint Lazarus wrote:Would people prefer Bogi or just the TPE and cap flexibility while avoiding the tax?
Would we avoid the tax if we give him 20 per year?
Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:36 pm
by Green89
Scarletfire81 wrote:ConstableGeneva wrote:Yinwest wrote:Thoughts guys?
They need to clear a significant amount in order to sign Hayward outright. If this is even a thing, a third team would have to be involved imo.
We won't take on Batum or Zeller's contract even if they're expiring. Batum will put us over the tax. Zeller may not, but we already signed Thompson and have Theis/Timelord/Grant as backups.
The TPE is the prize here and whatever pick they can throw our way along with it. We can use both to sign an FA (why Bogdan's name is being brought up) or for midseason trades or for next offseason.
I thought the Hornets were waiving Batum to make room?
After much media ridicule, I think MJ realized it was a bad idea.