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reload141 wrote:The Comedian wrote:I need to avoid that Ainge thread on the GB, it would spell the end of my mod days.
It’s just lazy, and makes the wrong arguments.
But he's notorious for starting those threads... at what point can people actually report him for purposely doing bad threads?
Captain_Caveman wrote:Darth Celtic wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:
4 of them are swaps, so no, it's definitely not 8 1sts. It's 4 picks, with the possibility to improve draft position on 4 other picks. But how many of those swaps will even convey, if any? Should any swaps convey, how many will improve Houston's draft position by more than a handful of spots, or put them in the top 10? Houston will be fortunate to get just one of the swaps, and lucky as hell to get two, or any significant improvement on any of their picks in any of those years.
Of the 4 actual picks, 2 of them are Nets and Bucks 1sts in 2022. Not likely good. As to the other two, you are betting against Kevin Durant, another MVP-caliber guy, an All-Star, and a franchise willing to absorb lux tax pain.
At the end of the day, Harden got traded for a handful of maybes. That is a bitter pill.
how many playoff flops before they decide to cut salary? 1/ 2? 3?
every team is willing to pay way over the tax to contend, until they aren't. For them to stay way in the repeater tax, they have to win multiple championships which i'm not seeing.
I don't see that at all. For instance, they can pay Harden a lot more than anyone else can. If he chooses to move on, they can do a sign-and-trade and retain that ability to stay over the cap.
I'm a guy who was allllllll in on the KG/Pierce to the Nets trade, largely because they were older and the imminent demise of that Nets team was far more predictable, as was their inability to stay deep in the tax.
KD and Harden are only 32yo. Kyrie is still only 28. This is not in any way equivalent to our version of the Nets trade, IMO.
Zeroforwinger wrote:I don’t see how Harden and Kyrie coexist. That’s a terrible defensive backcourt
The Comedian wrote:Zeroforwinger wrote:I don’t see how Harden and Kyrie coexist. That’s a terrible defensive backcourt
Harden is a pretty damn good defender when he wants to be. I’m guessing with much less of a burden offensively, he will be an average defender, at worst.
JediMasterRevan wrote:I wish houston decides to not compete amd makes dipo and wood available.lol.
Doubt it
But i wish
Captain_Caveman wrote:
"One guy I would keep my eye on is Victor Oladipo, who just got shipped off to Houston," Scalabrine said Wednesday. "I think Houston wants to suck this year. I think they want to have a top-three pick, which is protected, and their pick is going to Oklahoma City if it falls outside of that.
Captain_Caveman wrote:Darth Celtic wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:
4 of them are swaps, so no, it's definitely not 8 1sts. It's 4 picks, with the possibility to improve draft position on 4 other picks. But how many of those swaps will even convey, if any? Should any swaps convey, how many will improve Houston's draft position by more than a handful of spots, or put them in the top 10? Houston will be fortunate to get just one of the swaps, and lucky as hell to get two, or any significant improvement on any of their picks in any of those years.
Of the 4 actual picks, 2 of them are Nets and Bucks 1sts in 2022. Not likely good. As to the other two, you are betting against Kevin Durant, another MVP-caliber guy, an All-Star, and a franchise willing to absorb lux tax pain.
At the end of the day, Harden got traded for a handful of maybes. That is a bitter pill.
how many playoff flops before they decide to cut salary? 1/ 2? 3?
every team is willing to pay way over the tax to contend, until they aren't. For them to stay way in the repeater tax, they have to win multiple championships which i'm not seeing.
I don't see that at all. For instance, they can pay Harden a lot more than anyone else can. If he chooses to move on, they can do a sign-and-trade and retain that ability to stay over the cap.
I'm a guy who was allllllll in on the KG/Pierce to the Nets trade, largely because they were older and the imminent demise of that Nets team was far more predictable, as was their inability to stay deep in the tax.
KD and Harden are only 32yo. Kyrie is still only 28. This is not in any way equivalent to our version of the Nets trade, IMO.
Celtics_Champs wrote:Scalabrine:"One guy I would keep my eye on is Victor Oladipo, who just got shipped off to Houston," Scalabrine said Wednesday. "I think Houston wants to suck this year. I think they want to have a top-three pick, which is protected, and their pick is going to Oklahoma City if it falls outside of that.
Gomes3PC wrote:Would we have S&T rights for Oladipo if we acquired him via trade? He'd almost certainly be a rental, as he wants a LT deal and I have no clue how we'd achieve that with Jaylen/Jayson/Kemba already on the books.
MagicBagley18 wrote:KD signs with warriors ; “there’s only 1 ball to go around it won’t work”
Kawhi to raptors ; “ they are playoff underachievers he hasn’t played for a year and he wants out of SA?!?!? Red flaaaaaags”
AD traded to lakers “he’s oft injured never won a thing empty stats guy”
Nets form a super team “but their bench and back up bigs suck”
Guys the only thing stopping them from walking into the finals is massive toxicity. Which there is a real chance of but if that’s not there they are gonna run through teams- weak defense or not.
Those picks swaps may not even happen so essentially there’s a chance of it being 3 dog **** picks. Talk yourself into timelines and all this other stuff all you want but the nets just landed harden and got not 1 centerpiece back and that’s ridiculous
The reality is on paper u see 4 picks and 4 swaps but after looking into them there’s really good chances that those picks suck. Houston got dog **** and can’t help but think if kemba was healthy if we could have somehow flipped him and got involved and kept brown.
24istheLAW wrote:This is wild. If/when it blows up in Brooklyn's face, Houston got up to 8 first round picks back. EIGHT.
I just don't understand. Who was Brooklyn bidding against? How did the price get that high?
jmr07019 wrote:Durant has an opt the same year Kemba has an opt out and Smarts contract expires? Hmmmm.
Zeroforwinger wrote:I don’t see how Harden and Kyrie coexist. That’s a terrible defensive backcourt
