Ranking Celtics Shooting Guards

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Jayson Tatum

The Celtics waste a great and unstoppable shooting guard by forcing him to play power forward.

With an All-NBA shooting guard on the roster, the Celtics need only a solid backup shooting guard for 10 minutes a game. They have instead loaded up the roster with them, and used pick after first round pick on more of them.

If the Celtics had someone like Jeff Malone around, then starting Tatum at small forward would be fine.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Tatum, it would be finals every year.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Dominique Wilkins, or Ricky Pierce, then it would be acceptable to start Tatum at power forward.

Jeff Malone is so much better than so many players that people celebrate.

A sane and healthy GM, and a coach who was capable of coaching in the NBA, would make sure the roster was built around shooting guard Tatum.






Jaylen Brown

The worst and most selfish "star" in the league.

His Stockton Number proves it. When you take away a few players who live in the paint, some centers and Zion, nobody has so many turnovers and so few assists as Brown.

Except for Zion and the Greek guy, no "stars" are as bad at the free throw line. Even when he "improves", still bad.

Volume shooter.

Beal, Curry and Zach LaVine get the same rebounds as Brown does, and they don't have his combination of height and jumping.

A horrible fit on most teams, a terrible fit on the Celtics where Tatum is much better, and the team has no passing from the point guard, center or forward positions.

Blocks as many shots as De'Aaron Fox does.

Empty stats, proven by the Offensive Rating 113, Defensive Rating 114.

11 for 26?

5 for 23 against Brooklyn?

He may have a lot of points. He just takes a lot of shots. Plays "well" against bad teams.

69.4% on free throws for his career. Jeff Malone was 87.1%.




Payton Pritchard

He does play shooting guard quite a bit.

That is bad coaching.

Probably did not expect to be doing that. He joins a team with shooting guards everywhere, and he is then part of that position too.

Stats say he really does shoot the ball and pass the ball exactly as J Brown does.

He should be a backup point guard.

His shooting percentages say he is a good option, when compared to other Celtics.

He is taller than Kemba.




Kemba Walker

He is a shooting guard. In his mind. In the stats.

He is, the numbers show, equivalent to post-injury shooting guard Dee Brown.

Dee Brown could defend. No Kemba ever defended.

Dee Brown 1993-94
Kemba Walker 2020-21

PER?
16 to 15.9

True Shooting% ?
53.3 to 53

Can anyone in the world imagine paying post-injury Dee Brown $140million?

Passing? Kemba gets 1 more assist, and 1 more turnover.

There are people who think Kemba can "save" the season? Maybe if he retired it would help the salary cap, might "save" some money.

Jeff Malone and Kemba both got 21 points per 36 minutes over their careers.

Kemba shot 41.8% from the field. Jeff Malone, 48.4%.




Marcus Smart

The only Celtics who shoot the ball worse than him, Teague and Waters.

He can defend. He can pass. Sometimes. But he loses many more games than he helps the team with a "winning play".

Is in the Top 4 Celtics for 3 attempts. Hits them at 32%.

The worst decision maker in the NBA?




Aaron Nesmith

Might be able to shoot. Don't know yet. Some players have taken more shots in one game than he has in his career.

18 for 50 from 3. Not bad, hits a few more and gets over 40%.




Javonte Green

He is actually good, compared to many others. He knows his role is to be a good backup, or backup to the backup, who makes few mistakes and plays the team game, and he does it. Age, might be at his athletic peak, and lack of range are two things that hold him back a tad.




Romeo Langford

Was drafted as an injured guy who could not shoot.

Might still be just that.

A team that wastes lottery picks. Not good.




Carsen Edwards

So short.

So bad.

On a team with a great center, he might help.

On a team with no post player, no passing, he can't really do anything even when he does something.



How can a team have 9 players who are shooting guards, or think they are shooting guards, or are used as shooting guards?

Around 1983, Danny Ainge was crying and complaining because the Celtics gave significant minutes to four guards, and two of them were point guards.

[theman]

Jayson Tatum

The Celtics waste a great and unstoppable shooting guard by forcing him to play power forward.

With an All-NBA shooting guard on the roster, the Celtics need only a solid backup shooting guard for 10 minutes a game. They have instead loaded up the roster with them, and used pick after first round pick on more of them.

If the Celtics had someone like Jeff Malone around, then starting Tatum at small forward would be fine.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Tatum, it would be finals every year.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Dominique Wilkins, or Ricky Pierce, then it would be acceptable to start Tatum at power forward.

Jeff Malone is so much better than so many players that people celebrate.

A sane and healthy GM, and a coach who was capable of coaching in the NBA, would make sure the roster was built around shooting guard Tatum.






Jaylen Brown

The worst and most selfish "star" in the league.

His Stockton Number proves it. When you take away a few players who live in the paint, some centers and Zion, nobody has so many turnovers and so few assists as Brown.

Except for Zion and the Greek guy, no "stars" are as bad at the free throw line. Even when he "improves", still bad.

Volume shooter.

Beal, Curry and Zach LaVine get the same rebounds as Brown does, and they don't have his combination of height and jumping.

A horrible fit on most teams, a terrible fit on the Celtics where Tatum is much better, and the team has no passing from the point guard, center or forward positions.

Blocks as many shots as De'Aaron Fox does.

Empty stats, proven by the Offensive Rating 113, Defensive Rating 114.

11 for 26?

5 for 23 against Brooklyn?

He may have a lot of points. He just takes a lot of shots. Plays "well" against bad teams.

69.4% on free throws for his career. Jeff Malone was 87.1%.




Payton Pritchard

He does play shooting guard quite a bit.

That is bad coaching.

Probably did not expect to be doing that. He joins a team with shooting guards everywhere, and he is then part of that position too.

Stats say he really does shoot the ball and pass the ball exactly as J Brown does.

He should be a backup point guard.

His shooting percentages say he is a good option, when compared to other Celtics.

He is taller than Kemba.




Kemba Walker

He is a shooting guard. In his mind. In the stats.

He is, the numbers show, equivalent to post-injury shooting guard Dee Brown.

Dee Brown could defend. No Kemba ever defended.

Dee Brown 1993-94
Kemba Walker 2020-21

PER?
16 to 15.9

True Shooting% ?
53.3 to 53

Can anyone in the world imagine paying post-injury Dee Brown $140million?

Passing? Kemba gets 1 more assist, and 1 more turnover.

There are people who think Kemba can "save" the season? Maybe if he retired it would help the salary cap, might "save" some money.

Jeff Malone and Kemba both got 21 points per 36 minutes over their careers.

Kemba shot 41.8% from the field. Jeff Malone, 48.4%.




Marcus Smart

The only Celtics who shoot the ball worse than him, Teague and Waters.

He can defend. He can pass. Sometimes. But he loses many more games than he helps the team with a "winning play".

Is in the Top 4 Celtics for 3 attempts. Hits them at 32%.

The worst decision maker in the NBA?




Aaron Nesmith

Might be able to shoot. Don't know yet. Some players have taken more shots in one game than he has in his career.

18 for 50 from 3. Not bad, hits a few more and gets over 40%.




Javonte Green

He is actually good, compared to many others. He knows his role is to be a good backup, or backup to the backup, who makes few mistakes and plays the team game, and he does it. Age, might be at his athletic peak, and lack of range are two things that hold him back a tad.




Romeo Langford

Was drafted as an injured guy who could not shoot.

Might still be just that.

A team that wastes lottery picks. Not good.




Carsen Edwards

So short.

So bad.

On a team with a great center, he might help.

On a team with no post player, no passing, he can't really do anything even when he does something.



How can a team have 9 players who are shooting guards, or think they are shooting guards, or are used as shooting guards?

Around 1983, Danny Ainge was crying and complaining because the Celtics gave significant minutes to four guards, and two of them were point guards.

Jeff Malone is 59 years old. He is not the answer.

[moonie_mcgee]

Jeff Malone is not a HOFer. Great career though. Can he coach?
I'd **** love it if the Celts built the team around Tatum at the 2.

[BK_2020]

Tatum is best at the 4. Coincidentally, so is Jaylen.

[Stan34]

Jayson Tatum

The Celtics waste a great and unstoppable shooting guard by forcing him to play power forward.

With an All-NBA shooting guard on the roster, the Celtics need only a solid backup shooting guard for 10 minutes a game. They have instead loaded up the roster with them, and used pick after first round pick on more of them.

If the Celtics had someone like Jeff Malone around, then starting Tatum at small forward would be fine.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Tatum, it would be finals every year.

If the Celtics had Jeff Malone and Dominique Wilkins, or Ricky Pierce, then it would be acceptable to start Tatum at power forward.

Jeff Malone is so much better than so many players that people celebrate.

A sane and healthy GM, and a coach who was capable of coaching in the NBA, would make sure the roster was built around shooting guard Tatum.






Jaylen Brown

The worst and most selfish "star" in the league.

His Stockton Number proves it. When you take away a few players who live in the paint, some centers and Zion, nobody has so many turnovers and so few assists as Brown.

Except for Zion and the Greek guy, no "stars" are as bad at the free throw line. Even when he "improves", still bad.

Volume shooter.

Beal, Curry and Zach LaVine get the same rebounds as Brown does, and they don't have his combination of height and jumping.

A horrible fit on most teams, a terrible fit on the Celtics where Tatum is much better, and the team has no passing from the point guard, center or forward positions.

Blocks as many shots as De'Aaron Fox does.

Empty stats, proven by the Offensive Rating 113, Defensive Rating 114.

11 for 26?

5 for 23 against Brooklyn?

He may have a lot of points. He just takes a lot of shots. Plays "well" against bad teams.

69.4% on free throws for his career. Jeff Malone was 87.1%.




Payton Pritchard

He does play shooting guard quite a bit.

That is bad coaching.

Probably did not expect to be doing that. He joins a team with shooting guards everywhere, and he is then part of that position too.

Stats say he really does shoot the ball and pass the ball exactly as J Brown does.

He should be a backup point guard.

His shooting percentages say he is a good option, when compared to other Celtics.

He is taller than Kemba.




Kemba Walker

He is a shooting guard. In his mind. In the stats.

He is, the numbers show, equivalent to post-injury shooting guard Dee Brown.

Dee Brown could defend. No Kemba ever defended.

Dee Brown 1993-94
Kemba Walker 2020-21

PER?
16 to 15.9

True Shooting% ?
53.3 to 53

Can anyone in the world imagine paying post-injury Dee Brown $140million?

Passing? Kemba gets 1 more assist, and 1 more turnover.

There are people who think Kemba can "save" the season? Maybe if he retired it would help the salary cap, might "save" some money.

Jeff Malone and Kemba both got 21 points per 36 minutes over their careers.

Kemba shot 41.8% from the field. Jeff Malone, 48.4%.




Marcus Smart

The only Celtics who shoot the ball worse than him, Teague and Waters.

He can defend. He can pass. Sometimes. But he loses many more games than he helps the team with a "winning play".

Is in the Top 4 Celtics for 3 attempts. Hits them at 32%.

The worst decision maker in the NBA?




Aaron Nesmith

Might be able to shoot. Don't know yet. Some players have taken more shots in one game than he has in his career.

18 for 50 from 3. Not bad, hits a few more and gets over 40%.




Javonte Green

He is actually good, compared to many others. He knows his role is to be a good backup, or backup to the backup, who makes few mistakes and plays the team game, and he does it. Age, might be at his athletic peak, and lack of range are two things that hold him back a tad.




Romeo Langford

Was drafted as an injured guy who could not shoot.

Might still be just that.

A team that wastes lottery picks. Not good.




Carsen Edwards

So short.

So bad.

On a team with a great center, he might help.

On a team with no post player, no passing, he can't really do anything even when he does something.



How can a team have 9 players who are shooting guards, or think they are shooting guards, or are used as shooting guards?

Around 1983, Danny Ainge was crying and complaining because the Celtics gave significant minutes to four guards, and two of them were point guards.

You are just another Jaylen hater. There are alot in this forum. For your information jaylen always played great in the playoff, always. Calling a volume shooter a player efficient like brown is a bad take. You said brown play bad vs great team... Ah ah ah really? He has been the best player on the team last year vs Miami, by far.
This year he played great vs Milwakee, Lakers, Dallas, Utah (both games), Brooklyn the first game, Phila (both games), Denver, Toronto and so on...
You and other 7/8 guys on the forum always try to blame jaylen for everything because of your personal agenda. He doesn't play team defense, he doesn't pass, he doesn't rebound, he doesn't do this or that.
There is a reason if jaylen is on this celtics team. Because Stevens and ainge knows basket and you and your crew dont

[Fencer reregistered]

Whatever he said in 1983, Danny Ainge later coached a team that commonly played Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson, Steve Nash and Rex Chapman together.

[Krkrich]

Pritchard at 3 is **** hilarious.

[gocelts]

So what you're saying it Teague is our BEST pointguard...and also our worst!

[Ernest]

tl;dr can you sum it up in a few pictures please?

[31to6]

I'm surprised it escaped your otherwise-sharp eye that Semi Ojeleye is basically a shooting guard.

I agree about Tatum though. Other than a couple of inches, different names, and different games, what's the difference between Jayson Tatum and Devin Booker? There is none. None difference.

[31to6]

This was an enjoyable trip down memory lane. Who could forget when Jeff Malone scored 6pts each in his two All-Star game appearances? Or ranked 6th in the NBA in minutes per game in the 1985-86 season? I'll always remember where I was when the man ranks 83rd in career usage rate, and 85th in career points per game! When I was growing up you couldn't throw a stick without hitting Jeff Malone ranking 29th in career FT% in NBA history. My mamma always told me that Basketball Reference's algorithm gives Jeff Malone an 0.2% chance of making the Hall of Fame, right between Manu Ginobili and Kevin Johnson. I learned a lot that day; I'll never forget it https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonje01.html

[djFan71]

I'm surprised it escaped your otherwise-sharp eye that Semi Ojeleye is basically a shooting guard.

I agree about Tatum though. Other than a couple of inches, different names, and different games, what's the difference between Jayson Tatum and Devin Booker? There is none. None difference.

Maybe there is no Devin Booker.

[31to6]

I'm surprised it escaped your otherwise-sharp eye that Semi Ojeleye is basically a shooting guard.

I agree about Tatum though. Other than a couple of inches, different names, and different games, what's the difference between Jayson Tatum and Devin Booker? There is none. None difference.

Maybe there is no Devin Booker.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Whatever he said in 1983, Danny Ainge later coached a team that commonly played Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson, Steve Nash and Rex Chapman together.

Robert Horry threw a towel in Phoenix coach Aingey-Boy's face.


Ainge lost nearly as many NBA Finals as Horry won?


Wesley Person was the "power" forward on that dwarf Suns team.

Ainge proved you can't win going stupid and small in Phoenix, why would he think a team putting three point guards on the floor together in Boston would be different?