Who is more at fault for this mess of a season Brad or Danny?

[bbd24]

Definitely Brad. Just look at last night, he still doesn’t know what rotations work. Is it because of Covid and not many practices ? Who knows.

Having said that, the team has still played in 28 crunch time games (only won 11). So he’s not that far off.

This season is tough to judge in regards to anything. Just not normal. I give them both a pass. This roster is loaded with youth.

[playa-hater]

Jesus some people are in such denial. Tonight's game with Memphis should even further cement how bad Stevens is. No Tatum and No Kemba. That's 2 players who are very good but are accused of Not passing well or taking Hero Ball shots. Neither played. So a loss, may be expected. But all you had to do is look at the overall lack of BB IQ and lack of ball movement on display. How about shot selection? Horrid on many counts. How about accountability for poor decisions? Do you ever see it? Do you ever suspect there is any??

For all we know Brad is a genius and can see everything as it is. But it is as clear as Day, he is the one who allows this. Like a parent enabling their kids their whole life to stay up late and play video games, disregard school, and when their kids amount to nothing, the Parents say, my kids just don't listen.

Dumb basketball is happening. No one in their right mind can deny this. Either the coach can't teach IQ well or he is too weak to stop it. There is no other option.

Brad is BAD.

31 assists on the night, which is 3.3 more than the highest average in the NBA (GSW with 27.7 per game). One of the best nights from the three on both volume and percentage. Finally got to the line a lot. And then there's this clown saying lack of BBIQ and shot selection was the problem.
What a dumb take.

damn you F'ed up now. OK you wanna play, let's play. Boston may have had whatever assists tonight as you say, but when the Chips were all on the table and it mattered most, what happened? good ball movement? assists?? or the same DUMB thing that has plagued Boston all year and even last year. Boston is rated near bottom in 4th quarter scoring. Collapses are more common than Icebergs melting in the Pole right now. We LOST YET another winnable game in the SAME fashion we have blown games all year long.

And YET you call my take DUMB. That would make your take even dumber. You are in great denial, blind or both not to see this.

[playa-hater]

The 20-21 Celtics:

- Don't play defense
- Don't move the ball
- Don't shoot enough FTs
- Don't have enough depth
- Shoot too many mid-range jumpers
- Go ISO in crunch time

How many of those items are Danny's fault? I'd say 1 (depth). The other 5 are on Brad. Now if you want to say "Danny is responsible for Brad so ultimately it all traces back to him" that's fine but it's also a cop out.

What I find bizarre is the number of posters who bypass Brad and instead blame our two best players for all these items. Apparently it's not enough for Jaylen and Tatum (at ages 24 and 23 respectively) to be all-stars and put up career best numbers pretty much across the board -- they also need to coach their teammates, implement offensive and defensive systems, and self-analyze to figure out how they can help the team win.

I'm honestly starting to wonder what some people on this board think Brad is responsible for (if anything)? Defense? Guess that's on the players. Offense? On the players. Rotation and subs? Danny's fault. Motivation, playing hard/together? Players. Maybe Brad is just responsible for the team making it to the games, in which case, gold star, 43/43.

you sir, clearly see the light.

[playa-hater]

When you have to play a G-league talent like Semi 34 minutes, then that says everything about your roster's talent depth. Semi wouldn't play that much even if you put him on the 2 worst teams in the league right now - the Pistons and the Timberwolves.

while this is true, it doesn't alleviate the responsibility of a coach to get whomever he has to move the ball better. To get players to cut, take smart shots, to stop making it an ISO game or Hero ball. And definitely improve this horrid defense with better lineups (small ball in particular)

[LoquaciousLarry]

Danny, the talent level on this roster sucks.

Brad isn't blameless, but he's dealt with year after year of chemistry issues on the roster based on the talent that Ainge has assembled.
Last night Brad had a beautifully drawn up play late in the game against Memphis to get Smart a wide open layup in a matter of 2 seconds as the defenders drifted with Brown who was the decoy coming around a double screen... Brad has made the most and overachieved with a fluctuating roster. He has helped Tatum and Brown develop and win and I'd hate to lose him with this tandem moving forward.

That being said, Ainge has not put a solid enough supporting cast around these guys, has failed to move pending free agents before they leave for nothing and has consistently drafted undersized point guards and questionable shooting guards the past two drafts.

Ainge is responsible for this seasons shortcomings, even if in hindsight we can all say without argument that keeping Rozier instead of acquiring Walker who has had injury woes was a no brainer.

[FakeScreenName123]

I blame the fans for allowing Danny to sell us on the fact that we made the eastern conference finals in 3 out of 4 years.

are we the **** boston celtics or are we the indiana pacers?

[themoneyteam2]

I mean this isn’t even close lol it’s clearly Ainge. This roster is laugh out loud bad and horribly constructed.

If you think Stevens is more to blame you simply don’t know the NBA. Sorry. And I’m not even that big of a Stevens guy or an Ainge hater but the lack of talent on this roster is pretty obvious.

Such an easy team to gameplan for because all you have to do is dare anyone other than Tatum and Brown to beat you (which they can’t).

[themoneyteam2]

Definitely Brad. Just look at last night, he still doesn’t know what rotations work. Is it because of Covid and not many practices ? Who knows.

Having said that, the team has still played in 28 crunch time games (only won 11). So he’s not that far off.

This season is tough to judge in regards to anything. Just not normal. I give them both a pass. This roster is loaded with youth.

Loaded with youth but only Tatum, Brown, Timelord, Pritchard, and possibly Romeo and Nesmith are even worth a damn...

[timpiker]

Neither. Its on the shoulders of 3 players - Tatum, Brown and Walker.

BINGO

Why doens't anyone blame the players? It's more or less the same team that has had success before. Would a different coach really have us winning a lot more? Would a different GM really think the team is worth blowing up?

Nah, it's the players. And you can't really fault them. The Jays are just to young to close out games. Walker was and maybe still is hurt.

Maybe if you are really pissed off now you can blame yourself. .500 is low for us but what did you reasonably expect?

Not really. This team lost a starter, which is even more significant for such a top-heavy team with a non-existing bench. And Danny refuses to absolutely anything to replace that loss and would just rather bank on his assembled crew of rookies, sophomores, and G-leaguers being good enough to compensate. He's a cheapskate who's really more worried about not even risking looking bad in any deal he makes. And if it means not making any deals at all, then so be it. Doing something big carries more risk and could pose more threat on his job security than really doing nothing at all.

So you're blaming this crappy team's problems on lack of talent and injuries. Ok. I'm blaming it on 2 young, anointed kids who are too young to be "team leaders" and on lack of heart. There is only 1 player on this team with heart and we all know who he is. Just 1.

[flintsky21]

BINGO

Why doens't anyone blame the players? It's more or less the same team that has had success before. Would a different coach really have us winning a lot more? Would a different GM really think the team is worth blowing up?

Nah, it's the players. And you can't really fault them. The Jays are just to young to close out games. Walker was and maybe still is hurt.

Maybe if you are really pissed off now you can blame yourself. .500 is low for us but what did you reasonably expect?

Not really. This team lost a starter, which is even more significant for such a top-heavy team with a non-existing bench. And Danny refuses to absolutely anything to replace that loss and would just rather bank on his assembled crew of rookies, sophomores, and G-leaguers being good enough to compensate. He's a cheapskate who's really more worried about not even risking looking bad in any deal he makes. And if it means not making any deals at all, then so be it. Doing something big carries more risk and could pose more threat on his job security than really doing nothing at all.

So you're blaming this crappy team's problems on lack of talent and injuries. Ok. I'm blaming it on 2 young, anointed kids who are too young to be "team leaders" and on lack of heart. There is only 1 player on this team with heart and we all know who he is. Just 1.

If those 2 anointed brats are too young to be leaders, then what's stopping that 1 player with "heart" from asserting himself as the team leader?

[bbd24]

Definitely Brad. Just look at last night, he still doesn’t know what rotations work. Is it because of Covid and not many practices ? Who knows.

Having said that, the team has still played in 28 crunch time games (only won 11). So he’s not that far off.

This season is tough to judge in regards to anything. Just not normal. I give them both a pass. This roster is loaded with youth.

Loaded with youth but only Tatum, Brown, Timelord, Pritchard, and possibly Romeo and Nesmith are even worth a damn...

Those talents alone beat half the teams in the league. What happens when they actually get comfortable and hit their prime ? We’re setup great.

[Spin Move]

So on the losing Thies front and more PT for Williams

When William plays at least 20 minutes per game in 23.4 mintues
PTS TRB AST ST BLK
He is averaging 11.0 9.3 2.7 1.4 2.9

This was enabled by TT being out and the Thies trade but my point is that Brad had this guy who clearly showed alot of potential and was giving good per 36 numbers the whole time, why would he not play them more. I got frustrated wth his playing Semi and Javonte Green over Nesmith as well. Brad doesn't like to give young players PT unless they are the 4 years senior low cieling types (Grant Williams Pritchard). We should not have to trade Thies to get Minutes for Williams, this is something the coach should recognize without the GM forcing his hand