It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[Homerclease]

Wiseman is so raw, he's gonna be on his second contract by the time he's potentially a net-positive player.

That’s what people said about Brown and even Robert Williams.

Two top 5 picks for Brown is a no brainer and I love Jaylen

[Celts17Pride]

Ainge is going to wait until April 9th to see what kind of vets are going to shake through on the buyout market. If no good vets are available I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge waived Wagner (and his impending free agency) and signed a young player on a multiple year vet minimum deal. Ainge has done this before to get a good look at a player and have him in place for training camp.

Remember the Celtics don’t have a ton of ways to acquire players.

Just my thoughts and opinion

[playa-hater]

The Celtics problem is not Stevens it’s Tatum, Brown and Kemba. If those 3 moved the ball and didn’t play selfishly a ton of the Celtics issues would go away.

Kemba is tough because he is what he always was a ball stopping point guard who is only looking for his own shot.

Tatum and Brown are different and both can change. Those two young players playing with Kyrie Irving and Kemba Walker have developed a lot of bad habits. Over dribbling, ISOs, step back 3’s, not passing the ball etc.

Move the ball and a ton of issues go away

Surround these 2 with ball movers and they will have no choice but to adapt. Kemba for Horford. Then Smart and TT for Lonzo sign and trade. That's what I'm hoping for.

Kemba for Horford all day. Just don't think OKC would do it. Hope I am wrong. meanwhile I definitely love Lonzo's pass first style and switch-ability for Boston. he fits with our timeline as well.

[Bleeding Green]

Wiseman is so raw, he's gonna be on his second contract by the time he's potentially a net-positive player.

That’s what people said about Brown and even Robert Williams.

Two top 5 picks for Brown is a no brainer and I love Jaylen

I didn't say that about Rob Williams. I'm just very against Wiseman's archetype. Plus he is so much more raw than Brown and Williams were during their rookie seasons. He's played only a handful of games now since high school. I can't stand bigs who shoot outside the paint as much as Wiseman. I'd trade Brown in a second, but not for some bozo big that isn't as good as Rob Williams anyway.

[chrisab123]

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Lol!
This is just stupid and robotic Brad! Better leaders by 26 and 27 wtf
So you assume you’ll still be here by then huh? If that happens, both of them would be gone already. This is just short of saying, we’ll contend when the J’s are 26 and 27 yrs old respectively. When they are both better leaders lol. Stop talking fool!

The only way that Brad is gone by then is if he decides to return to college. He has a ton of job security.

[Homerclease]

Wiseman is so raw, he's gonna be on his second contract by the time he's potentially a net-positive player.

That’s what people said about Brown and even Robert Williams.

Two top 5 picks for Brown is a no brainer and I love Jaylen

I didn't say that about Rob Williams. I'm just very against Wiseman's archetype. Plus he is so much more raw than Brown and Williams were during their rookie seasons. He's played only a handful of games now since high school. I can't stand bigs who shoot outside the paint as much as Wiseman. I'd trade Brown in a second, but not for some bozo big that isn't as good as Rob Williams anyway.

I would look to pair wiseman and Williams together frankly.

We are just on the opposite ends of the spectrum on this kid. Personally I think he’s gonna be a star, I also think the top 5 picks in this draft are as close as you can get to can’t miss as well. You replace Brown with either Green, Suggs or Kuminga and get to roll the dice on Wiseman as well would be a dream come true.

[Gurton Buster]

By 26 or 27, they could very well be with another team. Hey, at least another franchise could benefit from their maturation. If we're still thinking 5-year windows or longer, good luck with that.

Package Kemba + Jaylen + picks and get the best talent you can from that package. Roll with a core of Tatum-Timelord-Smart-unnamedstar-Fournier. Those four fit each other best among the players we have now and Jaylen has the most trade value not named Tatum. Sorta kinda like KD-Dray-Iggy-Curry-Klay. But the homeless version.

Like it or not, seems like we’re gonna be with the Jays for the long haul. Danny didn’t pass up on trading for stars while we were ready to contend just to trade JT and JB now. Celtics FO chose the long term view (JT and JB) over winning now and since we already made this decision it’d be pretty foolish to go back after already missing our window being in 3 out of 4 ECF’s.

Too late for dat.

[Bleeding Green]

That’s what people said about Brown and even Robert Williams.

Two top 5 picks for Brown is a no brainer and I love Jaylen

I didn't say that about Rob Williams. I'm just very against Wiseman's archetype. Plus he is so much more raw than Brown and Williams were during their rookie seasons. He's played only a handful of games now since high school. I can't stand bigs who shoot outside the paint as much as Wiseman. I'd trade Brown in a second, but not for some bozo big that isn't as good as Rob Williams anyway.

I would look to pair wiseman and Williams together frankly.

We are just on the opposite ends of the spectrum on this kid. Personally I think he’s gonna be a star, I also think the top 5 picks in this draft are as close as you can get to can’t miss as well. You replace Brown with either Green, Suggs or Kuminga and get to roll the dice on Wiseman as well would be a dream come true.

Yeah, top of this draft is ez mode. Just pick a name out of a hat and you win I think.

Wiseman I have zero interest in, though. And have zero interest in playing two bigs together. I'd have taken 20 players over him in this draft easily. Just think he's going to be negative value until he becomes a free agent and then you're stuck and hoping he follows the Embiid path instead of the Nerlens Noel path.

[Wes-J]

this is a real post?

oh god

not nuts at all. i'm a big jaylen fan and i'd seriously consider this. wiseman is the real deal. plus a high lotto pick. looney i could care less. it's a risk but a big man with wiseman's talent is harder to find than a 6-7 wing with jaylen's talent.

Same, I’m as big a Jaylen fan on this board as it gets but I jump on this 100%. Wiseman + one of Suggs, Green or Kuminga is a fantastic return. Not sure why GS does it but Cave is more plugged into them then I will ever be

Feels like taking a step backwards. We would we try to get younger? Makes no sense at all.

I'll trade Jaylen for a much proven commodity but not like this.

[Fierce1]

I agree that trading Jaylen for lottery picks is not the way to go.

[Homerclease]

not nuts at all. i'm a big jaylen fan and i'd seriously consider this. wiseman is the real deal. plus a high lotto pick. looney i could care less. it's a risk but a big man with wiseman's talent is harder to find than a 6-7 wing with jaylen's talent.

Same, I’m as big a Jaylen fan on this board as it gets but I jump on this 100%. Wiseman + one of Suggs, Green or Kuminga is a fantastic return. Not sure why GS does it but Cave is more plugged into them then I will ever be

Feels like taking a step backwards. We would we try to get younger? Makes no sense at all.

I'll trade Jaylen for a much proven commodity but not like this.

1 step back to take two steps forward isn’t a big ask when you are a .500 team. You still have Tatum and Williams under team control for several years, you shed Kemba and you’re a player on the free agent market in a hurry by unloading Browns deal

[bucknersrevenge]

The Celtics problem is not Stevens it’s Tatum, Brown and Kemba. If those 3 moved the ball and didn’t play selfishly a ton of the Celtics issues would go away.

Kemba is tough because he is what he always was a ball stopping point guard who is only looking for his own shot.

Tatum and Brown are different and both can change. Those two young players playing with Kyrie Irving and Kemba Walker have developed a lot of bad habits. Over dribbling, ISOs, step back 3’s, not passing the ball etc.

Move the ball and a ton of issues go away

Surround these 2 with ball movers and they will have no choice but to adapt. Kemba for Horford. Then Smart and TT for Lonzo sign and trade. That's what I'm hoping for.

Kemba for Horford all day. Just don't think OKC would do it. Hope I am wrong. meanwhile I definitely love Lonzo's pass first style and switch-ability for Boston. he fits with our timeline as well.

It's certainly "hope" as much as anything. I could see us having to include a pick in the deal to make it work. OKC did reportedly state their willingness to HELP Al find a good trade partner after this season since he's been a professional but not part of their long term plans. Obviously, it's well known that Al would welcome a chance to come back here, even if it's to come off the bench I would think so I could see them doing him a solid for the pick. As for Kemba, after next season, he has a PO that I'd be shocked if he didn't exercise to get out of OKC so they'd be keeping him no longer than they would've otherwise kept Horford. Hell they may even be able to make a deadline move with him too to get something later.

[Fierce1]

The Celts are looking like a .500 team because they don't play the right way.

But the talent level of this Celtics team is way above .500.

[Curmudgeon]

The Celts are looking like a .500 team because they don't play the right way.

But the talent level of this Celtics team is way above .500.

No, read my signature. You are what your record says you are.

[Fierce1]

The Celts are looking like a .500 team because they don't play the right way.

But the talent level of this Celtics team is way above .500.

No, read my signature. You are what your record says you are.

The Celts are what they are not because they lack talent.

What's causing these Celtic losses is because of dumb plays and selfishness.

[Shak_Celts]

The Celts are looking like a .500 team because they don't play the right way.

But the talent level of this Celtics team is way above .500.

No, read my signature. You are what your record says you are.

Didn't the Cs make the finals with a closing .500 record for their last 60ish games when they had the big 3?

[Fencer reregistered]

The Celts are looking like a .500 team because they don't play the right way.

But the talent level of this Celtics team is way above .500.

No, read my signature. You are what your record says you are.

Didn't the Cs make the finals with a closing .500 record for their last 60ish games when they had the big 3?

And long ago, Bill Russell won his last championship with a .500ish team.

That was the season he realized he'd lost his competitive fire, apologized to his teammates/players for having done so, and kept his promise to them to rekindle it within himself for the rest of the year.

[gocelts]

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No idea why this is surprising some folks. We've always took Tatum and Browns growing pains into consideration.

This is why we paid Kemba BIG bucks to handle the scoring , extended a role player like Smart, and brought in veterans like Thompson and Teague, and drafted a "sharp shooting specialist" in Neismith. What wasn't factored in was that these aforementioned slugs would suck ass this season.

[FlatearthZorro]

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No idea why this is surprising some folks. We've always took Tatum and Browns growing pains into consideration.

This is why we paid Kemba BIG bucks to handle the scoring , extended a role player like Smart, and brought in veterans like Thompson and Teague, and drafted a "sharp shooting specialist" in Neismith. What wasn't factored in was that these aforementioned slugs would suck ass this season.

The problem with this tweet is that the leads could be on another team by the time they are 27.. Both of them.

[playa-hater]

Surround these 2 with ball movers and they will have no choice but to adapt. Kemba for Horford. Then Smart and TT for Lonzo sign and trade. That's what I'm hoping for.

Kemba for Horford all day. Just don't think OKC would do it. Hope I am wrong. meanwhile I definitely love Lonzo's pass first style and switch-ability for Boston. he fits with our timeline as well.

It's certainly "hope" as much as anything. I could see us having to include a pick in the deal to make it work. OKC did reportedly state their willingness to HELP Al find a good trade partner after this season since he's been a professional but not part of their long term plans. Obviously, it's well known that Al would welcome a chance to come back here, even if it's to come off the bench I would think so I could see them doing him a solid for the pick. As for Kemba, after next season, he has a PO that I'd be shocked if he didn't exercise to get out of OKC so they'd be keeping him no longer than they would've otherwise kept Horford. Hell they may even be able to make a deadline move with him too to get something later.

wasn't aware of that. I wonder what draft Compensation would be fair. OKC has so many draft assets. can they actually use anymore? maybe if OKC has a late first from some other team, than can flip for our 1st.