It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[LarryBirdsFingr]

If you remember my original report, Danny was looking to add someone who would be here long term.
This was 100% vetted and confirmed, and Fournier seems to be that guy.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Kornet and Wagner are interesting..

[MagicBagley18]

It's incredibly impressive work and frankly why dudes like.zarren get paid. Only a few guys mentioned Fournier to me and I personally brushed it off as nonsense. Guess it makes lots of sense!

I'm curious as to why we didn't go with Gordon given his price tag.

They probably spoke with Fournier about long term goals and plans, and he probably will resign. Gordon is sort of a dumbass and I'm fine with him not being here. Fournier is savvy.

I think Fournier is same agent as poirer probably a relationship and a believe we can get him back reasonably. Gordon seems like a guy who just think he’s better than he is and would probably be a pain in the ass on the next contract

[themoneyteam2]

Kornet and Wagner are interesting..

Interesting that they both suck and will be gone after 30 games?

[hugepatsfan]

@themoneyteam2

In the other thread you asked if we'd have to dump Kemba to have financial flexibility.

In terms of sign guys through FA, yes. But there should be no luxury tax concerns. By avoiding the tax this year, we would not be subject to any repeater rates for the foreseeable future. Kemba's deal will expire before it comes to that.

I'd anticipate that Ainge has ownership approval to do the full amount possible this offseason:

1) re-sign Fournier using bird rights
2) acquire a player with the remaining $11M on the TPE
3) add a tax payers's MLE signing
4) use the smaller Kanter and new Theis TPEs

I would anticipate significant role player upheaval this offseason. The deadline action today set the stage for that by acquiring Fournier's bird rights while avoiding the tax.

It’s 10 million on the TPE, Fournier makes 17.5 million. Who are you getting in that price range?

The TPE was for $28.5M originally, minus Fournier's $17.45M salary = $11.05M left.

We'll have to see how the deals are structured on the rest. I think Green should be enough to match salary on Wagner and then we can use the Poirier TPE on Kornet. Structured that way, we create a new $5M Theis TPE to add to the $4.7M Kanter TPE.

[JediMasterRevan]

So.

Kemba/pp/edwards
Fournier/smart/romeo
Brown/nesmith/semi
Tatum/wagner/grantw
Timelord/thompson/kornet

I am sure brad had romeo, grant and semi rayed highr than i do though

[leper-con]

Kembas salary matches Beals, the you toss in all the young guys and #1 you need to get the deal done.

[Wes-J]

I'm thrilled Theis, Teague, and Green are history but it wasn't enough. Grant and Edwards needed to be purged too. Semi is borderline to me. Sometimes he's useful but he's mostly just an emergency player to me we should never play him.

[darrendaye]

Read on Twitter

But he was advocating for Barnes and they were going to be f'd with the cap next year anyway. Even if Fournier leaves, they keep 2 rookie contract slot players on the team to help with that now. Kemba and Tristan screw up the finances for next year regardless. (Don't @ me, I advocated for just signing Harry Giles, )

[zoyathedestroya]

Kembas salary matches Beals, the you toss in all the young guys and #1 you need to get the deal done.

This is the dream scenario. But might not happen until offseason of 2022. Kemba opts in, Beal opts out and we use a pick-heavy package for an S&Td Beal w/ Kemba's expiring as ballast.

[MagicBagley18]

It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

[JediMasterRevan]

If you remember my original report, Danny was looking to add someone who would be here long term.
This was 100% vetted and confirmed, and Fournier seems to be that guy.

Alot easier to keep someone when they have a contract that doesnt expire.

I cannot see how they have any sort of a committment thatw evan will resign here. He has no idea about team, facilities, coaching, city etc.

At most management got a verbal statement thata evan would currently be open to potentially resigning

[djFan71]

8 man: Jays, Kemba, Smart, Fournier, TT, Rob, PP
5 -way battle royale for 9th/10th: Semi, Grant, Wagner, Nesmith, some guy that may or may not exist?
Carsen/Kornet

Better than we were yesterday. If Fournier is indeed resigned, we have a good scoring core.

Seems like there were better deals for Theis, but we probably just ran out of time, and it's honestly nitpicking as to whether we should have gotten a 2nd or not.

[darrendaye]

If you remember my original report, Danny was looking to add someone who would be here long term.
This was 100% vetted and confirmed, and Fournier seems to be that guy.

Obviously all this contingent on what other moves get made in the intermediate term. I would still like to be in position to have cap room to sign Beal in free agency. But I agree with your overall positive sentiment about the moves today.

[JediMasterRevan]

It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

And nesmith

[Bad-Thoma]

Kornet and Wagner are interesting..

Interesting that they both suck and will be gone after 30 games?

I know nothing about Kornet but I don't think Wagner is as bad a bench player as all that.

[zoyathedestroya]

Read on Twitter

But he was advocating for Barnes and they were going to be f'd with the cap next year anyway. Even if Fournier leaves, they keep 2 rookie contract slot players on the team to help with that now. Kemba and Tristan screw up the finances for next year regardless. (Don't @ me, I advocated for just signing Harry Giles, )

I think it boils down to whether Fournier re-signs or walks.

Basically, the TPE was our big chip to acquire a starter-level or just above average player in the medium term. Barnes could've been that. Gordon could've been that. Fournier could still be that IF he re-signs.

He's saying we're **** if Fournier walks and all we're left to use is the $11.5M TPE and the smaller TPEs in the offseason.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Kornet and Wagner are interesting..

Interesting that they both suck and will be gone after 30 games?

Kornet’s three ball cratered in Chicago but he was a good shooter in his first two years with the Knicks.

Wagner is shooting .310 from the perimeter, is energetic, enthusiastic, hardworking.

Both look like moderately skilled players who could still “get it” and adjust to the pro game mentally.

Reminds me a little of the year we got Jerebko and Datome.. Wagner might stick around.

[VeryMuchWoke]

You are right this is /was a capologists related moves. The numbers to make these deals work are a stats guys dream.

It's incredibly impressive work and frankly why dudes like.zarren get paid. Only a few guys mentioned Fournier to me and I personally brushed it off as nonsense. Guess it makes lots of sense!

I'm curious as to why we didn't go with Gordon given his price tag.

Are we sure he wanted it from us to be the 4th option?

[Darth Celtic]

I'm thrilled Theis, Teague, and Green are history but it wasn't enough. Grant and Edwards needed to be purged too. Semi is borderline to me. Sometimes he's useful but he's mostly just an emergency player to me we should never play him.

Grant must be rounding back into shape because he is back to being a solid backup. he was like unplayable the first 20 games. Interesting so much can go wrong in like 2 months of no playing. Guys must have hit DQ hard after getting out of the bubble.