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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#121 » by Parliament10 » Wed May 5, 2021 4:46 am

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playa-hater wrote:My 69,000 dollar question is would you give up our 1st (currently 18ish) to "dump" Kemba.? with the main benefit of saving a ton of money that can be used to extend Smart and/or Fournier and other possible signings down the road?

*also gets PP a bigger role (which I believe he is ready for?)

as well as getting rid of a potentially poor playoff defender.

Do the Pro's outweigh the Con's on this one?


I think I would and I think they do.

I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#122 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed May 5, 2021 4:51 am

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bucknersrevenge wrote:
playa-hater wrote:My 69,000 dollar question is would you give up our 1st (currently 18ish) to "dump" Kemba.? with the main benefit of saving a ton of money that can be used to extend Smart and/or Fournier and other possible signings down the road?

*also gets PP a bigger role (which I believe he is ready for?)

as well as getting rid of a potentially poor playoff defender.

Do the Pro's outweigh the Con's on this one?


I think I would and I think they do.

I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.


So is everybody except me sure that the Celtics would rather shed talent than just pay everybody?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#123 » by cloverleaf » Wed May 5, 2021 1:19 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:
I think I would and I think they do.

I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.


So is everybody except me sure that the Celtics would rather shed talent than just pay everybody?


I think they want to re-sign Fournier, which everyone isn't convinced of, and I doubt they'd be ready to ship out Kemba for what the cost/return would be. They need a vet PG while they see what they have in PP and the Yam anyway. I think they should trade Smart before they have to reup with him, but I doubt they will.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#124 » by bucknersrevenge » Wed May 5, 2021 1:23 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:
I think I would and I think they do.

I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.


So is everybody except me sure that the Celtics would rather shed talent than just pay everybody?


Well count me as not being sure they would do it. I do think the pros do outweigh the cons. And Just my opinion, it would be a shame to me if they let Fournier go in lew of keeping Kemba and/or Smart. Fournier is exactly the kind of guy this team needs on the roster long term.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#125 » by cloverleaf » Wed May 5, 2021 2:32 pm

Some good and brutal takes in here. Smart's teammates are pretty rough on him--and he dumps on Pritchard.

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#126 » by Parliament10 » Wed May 5, 2021 4:21 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.


So is everybody except me sure that the Celtics would rather shed talent than just pay everybody?


Well count me as not being sure they would do it. I do think the pros do outweigh the cons. And Just my opinion, it would be a shame to me if they let Fournier go in lew of keeping Kemba and/or Smart. Fournier is exactly the kind of guy this team needs on the roster long term.

I'm in the Trade Kemba Camp. -- Keep Smart (re-up) and Keep Fournier.
Some other pieces may or may not be good to keep. Parker, for instance, I wonder about.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#127 » by bisme37 » Wed May 5, 2021 4:26 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#128 » by Shak_Celts » Wed May 5, 2021 4:30 pm

cloverleaf wrote:Some good and brutal takes in here. Smart's teammates are pretty rough on him--and he dumps on Pritchard.

Read on Twitter


(And yes, Rob always has the best answers on these things.)




They think Smart will be doing something where he has to be tough! Coach, warden, fighter and hustler! Grit and grime! I know a coach is the cleanest one he got but you know smart will be the cussing and fussing type! The hustler comment is exactly Smart, he gets it done no matter how dirty he has to get, his family gon eat!
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#129 » by cloverleaf » Wed May 5, 2021 4:50 pm

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cloverleaf wrote:Some good and brutal takes in here. Smart's teammates are pretty rough on him--and he dumps on Pritchard.

Read on Twitter


(And yes, Rob always has the best answers on these things.)




They think Smart will be doing something where he has to be tough! Coach, warden, fighter and hustler! Grit and grime! I know a coach is the cleanest one he got but you know smart will be the cussing and fussing type! The hustler comment is exactly Smart, he gets it done no matter how dirty he has to get, his family gon eat!


Don't forget Rob's "con man" prediction.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#130 » by Shak_Celts » Wed May 5, 2021 6:03 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:Some good and brutal takes in here. Smart's teammates are pretty rough on him--and he dumps on Pritchard.

Read on Twitter


(And yes, Rob always has the best answers on these things.)




They think Smart will be doing something where he has to be tough! Coach, warden, fighter and hustler! Grit and grime! I know a coach is the cleanest one he got but you know smart will be the cussing and fussing type! The hustler comment is exactly Smart, he gets it done no matter how dirty he has to get, his family gon eat!


Don't forget Rob's "con man" prediction.


Gotta do what you gotta do to feed the family! We let lawyers, judges, car salesmen etc get away with it all the time! :lol:
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#131 » by cloverleaf » Wed May 5, 2021 6:15 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:


They think Smart will be doing something where he has to be tough! Coach, warden, fighter and hustler! Grit and grime! I know a coach is the cleanest one he got but you know smart will be the cussing and fussing type! The hustler comment is exactly Smart, he gets it done no matter how dirty he has to get, his family gon eat!


Don't forget Rob's "con man" prediction.


Gotta do what you gotta do to feed the family! We let lawyers, judges, car salesmen etc get away with it all the time! :lol:


You left out the politicians!
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#132 » by djFan71 » Wed May 5, 2021 7:27 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:I'd definitely do that.
And Agree, that the Celtics may end up doing so.


So is everybody except me sure that the Celtics would rather shed talent than just pay everybody?


Well count me as not being sure they would do it. I do think the pros do outweigh the cons. And Just my opinion, it would be a shame to me if they let Fournier go in lew of keeping Kemba and/or Smart. Fournier is exactly the kind of guy this team needs on the roster long term.

I'm against paying to turn Kemba into Al, but I've come around on the idea of turning him into Al for free. I can see a Knicks/Thunder 3-way where we get Al, Knicks get Kemba, Thunder free up money and minimal other assets/salary are involved - ie, not our first. Keep Fournier/Smart/'21 first. Al is a perfect 3rd big with Rob/TT. (other than his salary) - mentor the guys, play when others are hurt, sit/keep fresh for the playoffs when they're not, etc. And we save some $ off Kemba's salary. Fournier/PP/Nesmith and Al can all help make up for Kemba's scoring. And with Al/Fournier/PP you have some good passing/shooting.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#133 » by Bleeding Green » Wed May 5, 2021 8:26 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

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Post#136 » by playa-hater » Thu May 6, 2021 5:31 pm

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is this a hint that when everyone is back Kemba + Fournier starts and Smart to 6th man??
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#137 » by bucknersrevenge » Thu May 6, 2021 5:35 pm

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When JB comes back I'd really like to see Smart go back to the bench. Moving forward Kemba, Fournier, JB, and JT should all be good for 30+ minutes when they play and everyone else just fits in around them, and that includes Marcus. That's how I see it.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#138 » by cloverleaf » Thu May 6, 2021 11:46 pm

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When JB comes back I'd really like to see Smart go back to the bench. Moving forward Kemba, Fournier, JB, and JT should all be good for 30+ minutes when they play and everyone else just fits in around them, and that includes Marcus. That's how I see it.


Yep, also sounds as if the C's and Fournier are still making eyes at each other for a new contract next year, which is good news. It would be very hard for this team to otherwise come up with another player of his caliber this offseason without giving up equal talent.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#139 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri May 7, 2021 1:50 pm

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When JB comes back I'd really like to see Smart go back to the bench. Moving forward Kemba, Fournier, JB, and JT should all be good for 30+ minutes when they play and everyone else just fits in around them, and that includes Marcus. That's how I see it.


Yep, also sounds as if the C's and Fournier are still making eyes at each other for a new contract next year, which is good news. It would be very hard for this team to otherwise come up with another player of his caliber this offseason without giving up equal talent.


That's totally where I sit with this. I think you're 100% correct here. I think we have to do whatever we need to do to keep him.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#140 » by Parliament10 » Fri May 7, 2021 2:57 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
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bucknersrevenge wrote:
When JB comes back I'd really like to see Smart go back to the bench. Moving forward Kemba, Fournier, JB, and JT should all be good for 30+ minutes when they play and everyone else just fits in around them, and that includes Marcus. That's how I see it.


Yep, also sounds as if the C's and Fournier are still making eyes at each other for a new contract next year, which is good news. It would be very hard for this team to otherwise come up with another player of his caliber this offseason without giving up equal talent.


That's totally where I sit with this. I think you're 100% correct here. I think we have to do whatever we need to do to keep him.

I'm in Total Agreement. We need to re-sign Fournier.
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