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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1341 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:40 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1342 » by moonie_mcgee » Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:41 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:When I think of facing BKN I get excited this season. I think we match up on paper defensively and I think if we are healthy they can't stop us offensively, even if people think we can't hit the 3.

I was thinking about this and I only have "one" undecided defensive matchup.

Smart on Harden is about the best you're gonna get in the league.

JRich and/or Schrö on Kyrie is gonna be lovely (can defend him well all game)

Rob will have to take Blake (abusing him offensively will be major too)


Now to the undecided.

Brown is who I want on KD, he's been VERY successful at times BUT that leaves Tatum on Harris and I'm not sure about that. Tatum struggled defending Duncan Robinson and we had to switch Brown on him in the playoffs the season prior. I think Tatum can do better on Harris because I don't think he uses a million screens like Robinson does but if he does then Tatum will have to cover KD.

Either way I think we will be fine because I'm sure there will be a lot of switching anyway, but I really think Brown on KD is the way to go.

No one is gonna stop KD, Kyrie and Harden but I truly believe we have one of the best chances to make it extremely tough for them if our players click. Think the other team is Clips, but they won't actually meet for real unless they both get to the finals because during the regular season KL likely won't be healthy enough to test it. LA? Meh. Bucks? If BKN isn't healthy (not a stretch). Philly? They are a mess atm. Miami? I don't think so but I'll hope for it.


Now for Offense..

they aren't going to stop Tatum and I doubt any of them will be able to stop JB when Tatum gets doubled. Smart, JRich, and Schrö will have to get the ball in the paint to put even more pressure on them. Harden and Kyrie can defend (believe it or not) but it's matchup dependent IMO. Like Harden can guard inside, but who can he take on our team? I think he'd be better on a big but we don't have that on the roster where he can hide, specifically not a starter. I know for sure KD will be on Tatum unless they get cute again and put Kyrie on him at times, good luck when Tatum isn't the only (healthy) offender!

I don't know what BKN will do defensively but I'll guess.

Kyrie on Schrö or JRich is a matchup he can probably handle, but that means it will drain him for offense because he'll have to face one most of the game and they are gonna try to get inside all game. They may not hit the 3 well but people act as if that makes them offensively inept, they aren't! Watch how well they do!

KD on Tatum for sure (no chance really to put kyrie on him because of JRich or Schrö)

Blake on Rob and we better lob him every chance we can. I don't think we abused that matchup enough. If he can defend Rob he better get ready for Horford and Kanter to step in and make him really have to defend! I really think we are gonna abuse Blake this season!

Who is gonna guard JB? Harris? Lol ok. Maybe Harden? Haha. Then which one will have Smart? No seriously, Smart is a good enough shooter where you can't put Harden out there on him and he definitely can't defend JB for long. Lol! Harris will have to take someone and either option should feast on him! Smart with the pass getting everyone involved or brown just shooting his face off!

I don't know what will occur when the games are played but I think people are underestimating how good we match up with BKN (on paper)!

I think other people who know more about the game can show why my thoughts are just wishful thinking (crap) or someone who agrees can expound on my thoughts. Hopefully someone from either side will comment so people can discuss it more.


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Post#1343 » by Theocy » Mon Sep 6, 2021 11:53 pm

On paper we have a well rounded well constructed roster. No doubt in my mind Brown and Tatum will do well.

If Smart plays well as a PG and our additions do deliver close to what we expect to them to, we should be looking forward to EC SEMI finals. From that point who knows.

To many unknowns but really, with the latest additoon of Hernadogones it feels like we have the right mix of youth and experience to push for a good run.

Hell if Tatum and Brown improve i’d argue we’re better than the team the Bucks put around Yiannis.

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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1344 » by SatchSanders » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:15 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1345 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:43 am

SatchSanders wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.


I don't know about any of that, but I sure hope he plays to the level you think he will. That would be great for us! :pray:
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1346 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:58 am

SatchSanders wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.

Haven't seen much to support that. He was soft as butter in the summer league. Brad gave him minutes, no guarantees that ime does
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1347 » by Bohemian » Tue Sep 7, 2021 7:19 am

SatchSanders wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.


Langford is one of the candidates to be traded, I think he is second in the list behind Grant. Right now I would say he is not part of the rotation at all. At best, he is the 12th man. But yeah, training camp is his chance to prove himself.
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Post#1348 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 7, 2021 12:30 pm

I am really loving the roster construction right now.

Points: Smart/Schroder/Pritchard
Guards: Nesmith/???????/Langford
S. Forwards: Brown/Richardson/GrantW
P. Forwards: Tatum/Hernangomez/Parker
Center: Timelord/Horford/Kanter/Bruno

We can use a 3rd guard now (assuming that Grant can indeed play Small Forward and assuming Langford is capable of being the backup guard.)
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Post#1349 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Sep 7, 2021 12:40 pm

Both Schroder and Richardson play the point. And Madar is waiting overseas. I don't see the need.
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Post#1350 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 7, 2021 12:54 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Both Schroder and Richardson play the point. And Madar is waiting overseas. I don't see the need.



I meant to type guard not point.

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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1351 » by Hal14 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 1:51 pm

SatchSanders wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.

Agreed.

People seem to be going gaga over Nesmith, saying he should start. I'm still not convinced he should be over Langford on the depth chart.

Nesmith is a better shooter, yes. But Langford has closed the gap in that department with improved shooting late in the season, in playoffs and in summer league. And Langford is a much better defender and better passer.

Nesmith was lighting it up at summer league - at times. But at times he was ice cold. And he had a few times where he got burned pretty bad defensively by guys who are g-leaguers.

People are just giving credit to Nesmith and Pritchard for what they did in summer league. Langford is the one who hit the game-winning 3-pointer in the first game and Langford is the one who had what many consider the best dunk of summer league.

IMO the 2 of them are entering camp about even on the depth chart. We need both of them and both of them have the potential to be really good. Who plays more is TBD, depends on who earns more mins at training camp, preseason, practice and games..
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Post#1352 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Sep 7, 2021 2:23 pm

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Post#1353 » by Parliament10 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:03 pm

I'm kinda wondering.
Are we, and when are we, gonna bring in our 4 x Exhibition-10 contract slots?

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Post#1354 » by Parliament10 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:06 pm

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Post#1355 » by playa-hater » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:12 pm

SatchSanders wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Feels like Rob and Nesmith have every opportunity to take the starting jobs here. Let's hope they do.


The Smart Nesmith Brown Williams lineup allows for a
Schroeder Pritch JRich HGomez Horford unit
with LangfordParker Grant Bruno Kanter in reserve.

That's a helluva roster.
That 2nd unit would absolutely crush last seasons.
Hat tip to Stevens. Tip it!


People are sleeping on Langford. He’ll be 7th or 8th man if not starting. His defense and ball movement will draw Udoka to him.

Summer League? He was playing the role he was asked to play, the role he knew he’d play this season. With his length and awareness he can guard 1 through 4, and he’s a slasher and quality passer who consistently makes the right play.

With Richardson on the team nothing will be handed to Langford, but he’ll seize a role. He’s an excellent complement to the Jays and has the highest upside as a trade chip aside from the Jays and RWIII.


Sleeping on Langford, probably. potentially starting is being extremely optimistic. Not that he couldn't. But beating out the others is the hard part IMO.
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Post#1356 » by playa-hater » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:17 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:I am really loving the roster construction right now.

Points: Smart/Schroder/Pritchard
Guards: Nesmith/???????/Langford
S. Forwards: Brown/Richardson/GrantW
P. Forwards: Tatum/Hernangomez/Parker
Center: Timelord/Horford/Kanter/Bruno

We can use a 3rd guard now
(assuming that Grant can indeed play Small Forward and assuming Langford is capable of being the backup guard.)


we are at least 2 deep at every position, I think.. what Boston needs to grab the most talented young player at any position (preferable forward though) "cut" during training camp and develop him for insurance down the road.
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Post#1357 » by GoGreen » Tue Sep 7, 2021 4:12 pm

That Paul Pierce article is great. Yall should give it a read when time permits. Cool tidbits from his early years and tiltle run.
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Post#1358 » by Gavin_TDThree » Tue Sep 7, 2021 4:13 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1359 » by Gavin_TDThree » Tue Sep 7, 2021 4:14 pm

What are your guys expectations for Tatum this year?

I feel like this is going to be a career year for him

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Post#1360 » by Hal14 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 4:54 pm

Some footage of Jabari over the summer.

I know these proAm, open gym, pick up games you have to take with a grain of salt because a) the level of competition is lower since most of the guys are not NBA players and b) the loose, unstructured style of play. but Jabari looks pretty good in this video.

Most encouraging is he actually plays pretty good D on a few plays. A couple of nice blocks and a couple of plays where he does a solid job of on the ball defense guarding Kevin Porter Jr, a smaller/quicker wing who's very tough to guard 1 on 1.

It might be nothing, but it kind of looks like Jabari winces in pain a little bit as he heads back on D around the 13:58 mark after his teammate makes a shot. You hate to see an injury in this type of a game - hopefully he's fine..

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