Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

[keevsnick1]

So right now the standings are

4) NYL 37-30 (@LAC, @LAL,vsSAS,vsCHA, vsBOS)
5) ATL 31-31 (vsWAS, vsWAS, vsORL, vsHOU)
6) MIA 36-31 (@BOS, @BOS, vsPHI, @MIL, @DET)
7) BOS 35-32 (vsMIA, vsMIA, @CLE, @MIN, @NYK).

So what needs to happen?

BOS plays NYK the last game of the year, if they win that they also get the tie breaker. So they can still pass NYK if they win one more game than them in the next 4 games AND beat them the last game of the season. NYK has some pretty tough games left against both the LA teams and CHA/SAS who are both in the playoff hunt.

To pass ATL, BOS needs to lose 2 fewer games than ATL the rest of the year because ATL already has the tie breaker. This is a tough one because ATL only has four games left but two of those are WAS who is playing VERY well and still chasing positioning in the play in round.

BOS plays its next two against MIA. If BOS sweeps they will move one game up on MIA WITH the tie breaker with only three to play which would nearly lock in a better finish than MIA. If BOS splits the next two with MIA then BOS get's the tie breaker, but BOS would need to lose one fewer game over each teams last three to pull even and pass MIA with that tie breaker. Not impossible given MIA plays both PHI who may still be trying to lock up the 1 seed, and MIL who will be trying to lock up the 2 seed, in their final three games.

TLDR: So basically its gonna be hard to pass ATL unless they WIN out. They can lose MAYBE one more game (say a split against MIA) and still stand a chance of passing either/or NYK or MIA as long as they win all their other remaining games (including the last game against NYK) in part because NYK and MIA have some tough games left and BOS would own the tiebreakers.

[zoyathedestroya]

It seemed minor then but dumping Kanter turning out to be a huge mistake. Could've just kept both him and Theis without signing Thompson and still avoided the tax. Now Timelord could't be relied upon to stay on the floor 'cos he's made of glass. TT rebounds. That's it. Borderline awful defender. Takes horrendous hooks inside, clogs the lane, doesn't space the floor, isn't a lob threat, and rarely passes.

If there's one thing I could change in the offseason, it would be this. Since Hayward thing was out of our hands.

[Maple Green]

4) NYL 37-30 (@LAC, @LAL,vsSAS,vsCHA, vsBOS) 1-4 = 38-34 (they only win is Charlotte)
5) ATL 37-31 (vsWAS, vsWAS, vsORL, vsHOU) 1-3=38-34 only win Orlando
6) MIA 36-31 (@BOS, @BOS, vsPHI, @MIL, @DET) 2-3= 38-34 (split with Boston)
7) BOS 35-32 (vsMIA, vsMIA, @CLE, @MIN, @NYK) 4-1=39-33 (split with Miami)

We overtake NYK base on respective schedule .

[GotDaSauce]

4) NYL 37-30 (@LAC, @LAL,vsSAS,vsCHA, vsBOS) 1-4 = 38-34 (they only win is Charlotte)
5) ATL 37-31 (vsWAS, vsWAS, vsORL, vsHOU) 1-3=38-34 only win Orlando
6) MIA 36-31 (@BOS, @BOS, vsPHI, @MIL, @DET) 2-3= 38-34 (split with Boston)
7) BOS 35-32 (vsMIA, vsMIA, @CLE, @MIN, @NYK) 4-1=39-33 (split with Miami)

We overtake NYK base on respective schedule .

With this team I wouldn't bank on any sure fire wins even if we happened to play OKC our last 5 games!
Knicks seemed to have it more together right now tbh.

[exculpatory]

So right now the standings are

4) NYL 37-30 (@LAC, @LAL,vsSAS,vsCHA, vsBOS)
5) ATL 31-31 (vsWAS, vsWAS, vsORL, vsHOU)
6) MIA 36-31 (@BOS, @BOS, vsPHI, @MIL, @DET)
7) BOS 35-32 (vsMIA, vsMIA, @CLE, @MIN, @NYK).

So what needs to happen?

BOS plays NYK the last game of the year, if they win that they also get the tie breaker. So they can still pass NYK if they win one more game than them in the next 4 games AND beat them the last game of the season. NYK has some pretty tough games left against both the LA teams and CHA/SAS who are both in the playoff hunt.

To pass ATL, BOS needs to lose 2 fewer games than ATL the rest of the year because ATL already has the tie breaker. This is a tough one because ATL only has four games left but two of those are WAS who is playing VERY well and still chasing positioning in the play in round.

BOS plays its next two against MIA. If BOS sweeps they will move one game up on MIA WITH the tie breaker with only three to play which would nearly lock in a better finish than MIA. If BOS splits the next two with MIA then BOS get's the tie breaker, but BOS would need to lose one fewer game over each teams last three to pull even and pass MIA with that tie breaker. Not impossible given MIA plays both PHI who may still be trying to lock up the 1 seed, and MIL who will be trying to lock up the 2 seed, in their final three games.

TLDR: So basically its gonna be hard to pass ATL unless they WIN out. They can lose MAYBE one more game (say a split against MIA) and still stand a chance of passing either/or NYK or MIA as long as they win all their other remaining games (including the last game against NYK) in part because NYK and MIA have some tough games left and BOS would own the tiebreakers.

Great great great post!

I am moving all of this to the Remaining Schedule & Seeding Thread - where I added my responses!

[Parliament10]

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[threrf23]

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They shouldn't have chosen Mother's Day for this.

[Parliament10]

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They shouldn't have chosen Mother's Day for this.

Yeah. Really weird choice of days.

[Parliament10]

What do y'all think our Playoff Rotation will be?


Playoff Rotation:
Starters: Kemba - Fournier - Brown - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Smart - Nesmith - Thompson

Spot Mins: Langford - G.Williams - Kornet
Reserves: - Edwards - Ojeleye - Parker
Two-Ways: Waters - Fall

[Fencer reregistered]

Usually when I post a CelticsBlog link, the author is Smitty. But I'll make an exception for this one:

https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/5/8/22426211/chicago-bulls-size-and-length-is-a-worrying-issue-for-the-boston-celtics-nikola-vucevic

Basically, it makes an argument that the Celtics are afraid to attack defenses that have a lot of length. I agree as far as that goes, and would add my theory as to a reason:

If you're going to attack such defenses, you need to do so rapidly and with precision, and the Celtics have been lacking in both. I.e., they're RIGHTLY afraid to attack such defenses.

Conveniently, this fits with my longstanding view that Brad has to do a much better job of teaching offensive Xs and Os.

[djFan71]

It seemed minor then but dumping Kanter turning out to be a huge mistake. Could've just kept both him and Theis without signing Thompson and still avoided the tax. Now Timelord could't be relied upon to stay on the floor 'cos he's made of glass. TT rebounds. That's it. Borderline awful defender. Takes horrendous hooks inside, clogs the lane, doesn't space the floor, isn't a lob threat, and rarely passes.

If there's one thing I could change in the offseason, it would be this. Since Hayward thing was out of our hands.

Then we would have had to dump #30 on somebody else so we could still keep Semi and Javonte.

[Curmudgeon]

What do y'all think our Playoff Rotation will be?


Playoff Rotation:
Starters: Kemba - Fournier - Brown - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Smart - Nesmith - Thompson

Spot Mins: Langford - G.Williams - Kornet
Reserves: - Edwards - Ojeleye - Parker
Two-Ways: Waters - Fall

I wouldn't assume anything unless they actually make it. Two losses against the Knicks (a real possibility) could put an end to the season.

In any even't their playoff rotation is only going to be for 4-5 games. This team, I'm sorry to say, is toast. No frontcourt when Timelord is on the bench. Nada.

[GoGreen]

It seemed minor then but dumping Kanter turning out to be a huge mistake. Could've just kept both him and Theis without signing Thompson and still avoided the tax. Now Timelord could't be relied upon to stay on the floor 'cos he's made of glass. TT rebounds. That's it. Borderline awful defender. Takes horrendous hooks inside, clogs the lane, doesn't space the floor, isn't a lob threat, and rarely passes.

If there's one thing I could change in the offseason, it would be this. Since Hayward thing was out of our hands.

The "magic" of Danny Ainge

[Curmudgeon]

Ainge should have traded jaylen Brown for James Wiseman if and when he had the chance.

[Gomes3PC]

Ainge should have traded jaylen Brown for James Wiseman if and when he had the chance.

No, no he should not have. That's a move that basically would have precipitated an inevitable "Trade Me" call from Jayson Tatum.

Ainge maybe should have tossed 5 1sts to NOP to get Jrue for Kemba to move off his bum knee.

Ainge maybe should have used Jaylen and all those picks to get Harden.

But no, Ainge should not have traded Brown for a guy who is multiple years from helping make this team better.

[Fencer reregistered]

It seemed minor then but dumping Kanter turning out to be a huge mistake. Could've just kept both him and Theis without signing Thompson and still avoided the tax. Now Timelord could't be relied upon to stay on the floor 'cos he's made of glass. TT rebounds. That's it. Borderline awful defender. Takes horrendous hooks inside, clogs the lane, doesn't space the floor, isn't a lob threat, and rarely passes.

If there's one thing I could change in the offseason, it would be this. Since Hayward thing was out of our hands.

There have been a LOT of vet centers that either Danny paid to dump or that clearly failed based on (other) evidence, including LaFrentz, Pollard, both O'Neals, Kristic, Baynes, Kanter ...

[Curmudgeon]

Ainge should have traded jaylen Brown for James Wiseman if and when he had the chance.

No, no he should not have. That's a move that basically would have precipitated an inevitable "Trade Me" call from Jayson Tatum.

Ainge maybe should have tossed 5 1sts to NOP to get Jrue for Kemba to move off his bum knee.

Ainge maybe should have used Jaylen and all those picks to get Harden.

But no, Ainge should not have traded Brown for a guy who is multiple years from helping make this team better.

Wiseman makes this team better right now, whereas Brown is replaceable. They've got Nesmith Langford and Fournier who play the same position. Wiseman over TT is a much bigger upgrade than Brown over Nesmith or Fournier.

Of course I'm assuming Golden Stater would do it, and they probably wouldn't. They know the value of a skilled 7-1 player.

[Fencer reregistered]

Jaylen is traditionally the guy who carries the team in the first quarter.
Jaylen has been hurt recently.
First quarters have gone badly recently.

[Curmudgeon]

Jaylen doesn't take care of the ball and he's a black hole.

[JediMasterRevan]

Ainge should have traded jaylen Brown for James Wiseman if and when he had the chance.

No, no he should not have. That's a move that basically would have precipitated an inevitable "Trade Me" call from Jayson Tatum.

Ainge maybe should have tossed 5 1sts to NOP to get Jrue for Kemba to move off his bum knee.

Ainge maybe should have used Jaylen and all those picks to get Harden.

But no, Ainge should not have traded Brown for a guy who is multiple years from helping make this team better.

Wiseman makes this team better right now, whereas Brown is replaceable. They've got Nesmith Langford and Fournier who play the same position. Wiseman over TT is a much bigger upgrade than Brown over Nesmith or Fournier.

Of course I'm assuming Golden Stater would do it, and they probably wouldn't. They know the value of a skilled 7-1 player.

Wiseman improves the team, yes.

Wiseman is not worth brown though.


I would do
Fournier resigned at 18 mill
Thompson
Langford
Edwards

for
Wiggins
Wiseman