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Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular/Post-Season Thread, Part 2

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

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Post#82 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:40 am

Team stinks.



Also, there is no team.

Just a few ugly groups. The lazy group. The lazy and overpaid group. The really bad at basketball group.


Stinks!
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#83 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:51 am

I think the Celtics just hit rock bottom. I'd like to think there is nowhere to go but up, but I'm not sure about that the way they are playing.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#84 » by Patsfan1081 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:25 am

Little reactionary but it feels like you can’t have two score first wings that don’t make others better as your top 2, I have to Woden what would lead to Ainge moving on from one of the two.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#85 » by The Comedian » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:32 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:Little reactionary but it feels like you can’t have two score first wings that don’t make others better as your top 2, I have to Woden what would lead to Ainge moving on from one of the two.


I think Jaylen could be available for a star this summer (Towns/Beal/etc), I’d assume Tatum is pretty much untouchable. But more realistically, it just takes time for players how to learn to make the guys around them better.

Jaylen isn’t a baby anymore, but he’s still only going to be 25 next season. Tatum will be 23 almost all of next season, as well.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

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Post#87 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:55 pm

Celtics_History_Lesson wrote:Team stinks.



Also, there is no team.

Just a few ugly groups. The lazy group. The lazy and overpaid group. The really bad at basketball group.


Stinks!


I think the selfish group is the most characteristic of this team.
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Post#88 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:55 pm

Too short, can't shoot, selfish, lazy on defense, poor rebounding (don't box out), turnover prone.

Having said that, the key missing piece when they are short handed is the Timelord. Even without Kemba and one of Tatum or Brown, they have a chance when Timelord plays. He solves so many of their problems on the glass and he's a willing passer.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#89 » by BK_2020 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:01 pm

2 wins 5 losses with Tatum out
6 wins 9 losses with Timelord out
4 wins 3 losses with Jaylen out, including wins against Phoenix, GSW, LAC.
Timelord is good and all but Tatum is very important to the team.
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Post#90 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:29 pm

BK_2020 wrote:2 wins 5 losses with Tatum out
6 wins 9 losses with Timelord out
4 wins 3 losses with Jaylen out, including wins against Phoenix, GSW, LAC.
Timelord is good and all but Tatum is very important to the team.


Of course JT, the basketball player with a curl in the middle of his forehead, is very important to the team.

But many factors also go into small-sample W-L records like that.
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Post#91 » by 2Mas » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:33 pm

Hot take (maybe)

I liked our offense without Smart last night. It was nice not watching 7-8 terrible shots for nothing.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#92 » by BK_2020 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:53 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:Little reactionary but it feels like you can’t have two score first wings that don’t make others better as your top 2, I have to Woden what would lead to Ainge moving on from one of the two.

But we don't have 2 wings who don't make others better as Tatum has always had elite impact stats. This season his on/off is in the 84th percentile which is the first time it's dropped below 90th.
Jaylen meanwhile is in the 60th percentile.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#93 » by Parliament10 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:25 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#94 » by bisme37 » Sat May 1, 2021 5:02 pm

The General Board is going to be confused and devastated when we get to the ECF's again, seemingly out of nowhere.
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Post#95 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat May 1, 2021 10:16 pm

bisme37 wrote:The General Board is going to be confused and devastated when we get to the ECF's again, seemingly out of nowhere.


Lakers fans aside. They tend to believe in Celtic exceptionalism. :)
Ditto Pistons fans, I think.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#96 » by Parliament10 » Sun May 2, 2021 8:20 pm

Playoff Lineup:
Starters: Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Fournier - Nesmith - Thompson

Spot Mins: Langford - G.Williams - Kornet
Reserves: - Edwards - Ojeleye - Parker
Two-Ways: Waters - Fall
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Post#97 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon May 3, 2021 9:37 am

Parliament10 wrote:Playoff Lineup:
Starters: Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Fournier - Nesmith - Thompson

Spot Mins: Langford - G.Williams - Kornet
Reserves: - Edwards - Ojeleye - Parker
Two-Ways: Waters - Fall


Pretty much.

Waters is at least as high on the depth chart as Edwards, however, so I wouldn't distinguish between the guys on your last two lines.

And Semi is one line higher, although I lean against agreeing with Brad that he SHOULD be that high.
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Post#98 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon May 3, 2021 11:25 am

It occurs to me that we're probably teed up for a quiet offseason. The roster isn't really that thin any more.

The biggest need is to coach up the guys to play more cohesively, at both ends of the floor. Roster continuity is usually helpful to that.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#99 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon May 3, 2021 2:06 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:It occurs to me that we're probably teed up for a quiet offseason. The roster isn't really that thin any more.

The biggest need is to coach up the guys to play more cohesively, at both ends of the floor. Roster continuity is usually helpful to that.


All depends on ownership and what they're willing to spend. If Fournier shows value during the rest of the season and the playoffs like he has, even as he's not fully recovered, it sets up a serious decision in terms of re-signing him vs keeping Kemba and/or Smart. IMO, all 3 are potential candidates to be on the move this offseason. Coming off now 2 seasons of basically less than stellar gate receipts due to Covid, we can't be so certain Wyc will be willing to go 30-40M over the luxury tax for a team that right now looks like it will be fortunate to get out of the 1st round. There are teams you can justify that for. This is not one of them. I expect movement this offseason and I expect 1 if not 2 of the 3 may not be back. And of course throw everything out the window if Beal finally gets fed up in Washington.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread, Part 2 

Post#100 » by BK_2020 » Mon May 3, 2021 2:32 pm

Basically ~$139 mil is already tied up on 12 players next season (assuming Tatum makes All-NBA and Jabari is kept). FRP at 18th or something is adding another $3 mil. so already well into tax. I don't think Fournier is coming back.

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