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Post#4 » by Fierce1 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:56 am

Blazers with new head coach Billups also a disappointment so far.
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Post#5 » by NuckyPowell » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:04 am

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Al Horford may be this team's greatest advocate at the moment. "The biggest thing, and I told the guys, is making sure that we make the most out of this opportunity. I’m very grateful to be here with the Celtics and it doesn't matter kind of what has happened in the past."

Al is such a great guy to have on the team. Really a high character, professional guy. I hope when he hangs them up that he remains with the Celtics in some capacity, but I suspect New England winters are not in the cards for him.
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Post#6 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:37 am

I think his family likes Boston quite a bit. For starters there is a large Dominican community here.
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Post#7 » by Fierce1 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 12:13 pm

There's a scenario I can see the Celts capitalizing on Horford's impressive performance this season.

Since GSW is a top 2 in the west right now, what if GSW is interested in Horford and are willing to give up Wiseman?

Curry and GSW are in a win now situation.
They can't wait for Wiseman to mature.
Horford as the Center of the Warriors will most likely result in GSW being a legit finals contender.
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Post#8 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Nov 4, 2021 12:38 pm

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Even crazier cos he's asked to switch out to perimeter guys. So he's still able to stay in front of drivers or is in the right position to help when he's off ball or on the weakside. Why he's disappointed when team doesn't box and out and finish the possession with a rebound.
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Post#9 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Nov 4, 2021 8:35 pm

Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#10 » by Fierce1 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:33 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264630/Jaylen-Brown-On-Marcus-Smarts-Comments-Its-Something-That-We-Probably-Didnt-Need


Brad Stevens Admits Marcus Smart’s Comments About Celtics Not Ideal
'Was it the right thing at the right time? Probably not'

https://nesn.com/2021/11/brad-stevens-admits-marcus-smarts-comments-about-celtics-not-ideal/
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Post#11 » by Parliament10 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 6:02 am

Proposed Rotation, 2021-22:
Starters: Schröder - Brown - Tatum - Horford - R. Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Smart - Langford - Nesmith - G. Williams
Reserves: Richardson - Parker - Hernangómez - Fernando - Kanter
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Post#12 » by winsomme2 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:45 pm

I think a problem that is going on amongst the personality/chemistry issues right now is that we are running a defensive system that is promoting players I'd like to see less of and demoting players I'd like to see more of.

Smart and GWill are getting too much playing time for my liking and then we have PP, Nesmith, Langford, Hernangomez, Kanter all largely riding the bench with no consistent role.

We can't keep giving major minutes to GWill just because he's "switchable."

Why did we build a bench that can't even get in the game consistently due to the system we are running?
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Post#13 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Nov 5, 2021 1:34 pm

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Very early returns for double-big lineups have been good so far (still in 92nd percentile in net rating solely due to defense). Offense has been poop but I think it's mostly because Tatum forgot how to put the ball into the basket and because Smart is having his worst shooting season ever.

Missing out on defensive boards is kind of expected in a switching scheme so Jays just have to be better at boxing out and grabbing the rebound.
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Post#14 » by winsomme2 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:21 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Image

Very early returns for double-big lineups have been good so far (still in 92nd percentile in net rating solely due to defense). Offense has been poop but I think it's mostly because Tatum forgot how to put the ball into the basket and because Smart is having his worst shooting season ever.

Missing out on defensive boards is kind of expected in a switching scheme so Jays just have to be better at boxing out and grabbing the rebound.


Would love to see double big expand to Kanter and Hernangomez...

Maybe combos of Al with Hernangomez and RobWill with Kanter
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Post#15 » by greenroom31 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:39 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Image

Very early returns for double-big lineups have been good so far (still in 92nd percentile in net rating solely due to defense). Offense has been poop but I think it's mostly because Tatum forgot how to put the ball into the basket and because Smart is having his worst shooting season ever.

Missing out on defensive boards is kind of expected in a switching scheme so Jays just have to be better at boxing out and grabbing the rebound.


Eye-test wise I'm ok with the double-big lineup, especially against certain matchups, but think it definitely has some limitations that are exacerbated with Smart (or any non-shooting threat) as the PG.

Basically it clogs the paint to have both guys out there and Rob isn't a distance shooting threat so his guy can cheat off him a bit.
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Post#16 » by playa-hater » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:11 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Proposed Rotation, 2021-22:
Starters: Schröder - Brown - Tatum - Horford - R. Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Smart - Langford - Nesmith - G. Williams
Reserves: Richardson - Parker - Hernangómez - Fernando - Kanter


I could def live with this.. at the very least these units should be tried and not for a half by for some games.. I mean it's not like the other way was working good.

+ some of your 3rd stringers move up since it seems like it's always one guy taking turns sitting out with an injury,
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Post#17 » by playa-hater » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:13 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Image

Very early returns for double-big lineups have been good so far (still in 92nd percentile in net rating solely due to defense). Offense has been poop but I think it's mostly because Tatum forgot how to put the ball into the basket and because Smart is having his worst shooting season ever.

Missing out on defensive boards is kind of expected in a switching scheme so Jays just have to be better at boxing out and grabbing the rebound.


Eye-test wise I'm ok with the double-big lineup, especially against certain matchups, but think it definitely has some limitations that are exacerbated with Smart (or any non-shooting threat) as the PG.

excellent point..

Basically it clogs the paint to have both guys out there and Rob isn't a distance shooting threat so his guy can cheat off him a bit.
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Post#18 » by Bohemian » Fri Nov 5, 2021 6:56 pm

I don´t understand why Kanter doesn´t play at all. I mean, we know his game and we signed him as a FA anyway. Now he´s even behind Bruno in the rotation.

Also, I know Grant has been very good so far, but I would like to see Juancho getting some playing time.

Pritchard should be playing back up PG and Schroeder should start. Smart is not a true PG, I have been saying that forever. He can play PG at some moments but it´s not his forte.

I also loved the Nesmith/Langford combo.
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Post#19 » by Half-Full » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:08 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Image

Very early returns for double-big lineups have been good so far (still in 92nd percentile in net rating solely due to defense). Offense has been poop but I think it's mostly because Tatum forgot how to put the ball into the basket and because Smart is having his worst shooting season ever.

Missing out on defensive boards is kind of expected in a switching scheme so Jays just have to be better at boxing out and grabbing the rebound.


Would love to see double big expand to Kanter and Hernangomez...

Maybe combos of Al with Hernangomez and RobWill with Kanter


Would like to see Kanter and Juancho get more PT as well. The Celtics have strong defenders to put on the court with Kanter, which would mitigate his defensive liabilities. If he's not being badly abused, and he's putting up points, and pulling down boards, well...
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Post#20 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:15 pm

When Brad used to play 11 to 13 guys every game, we fans complained he should tighten his rotation so main guys can get some rhythm.

Ime plays 9 guys, fans want the entire roster playing.

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